Dr Fallout
Centurion
Wow, interesting insight. Though I think that it shouldn't be closed off to action games only, as it can make for interesting dialogue.
The failures of Fallout 4 as an RPG
- Thread starter ZigzagPX4
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Lanfear
Mildly Dipped
"You know what they call a mutant hound burger with cheese in the Capital Wasteland?"
"They don't call it a mutant hound burger with cheese?"
"Nah, they don't have mutant hounds down there, they wouldn't know what the fuck that was. *gunshot* Hurgh!"
"Bob? Why are you dead? Did someone shoot you, Bob?! ...ah, probably just the wind"
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Bethesda is jsut trying to be Minecraft, Mass Effect and Uncharted all at once and also failing on all at once.... and they still charge you 60 dollars, 80 if you live in Latin America from January on.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Well they did say "if Fallout 4 sucks, blame our ambition."
ZigzagPX4
The Swiftness of the Ranger
Ripping things off and charging you for the mother of all messes is ambition? Damn, that would make reaching for the stars as easy as stepping up a ladder. Fame, riches and writing self-help books in the balcony of a cliffside mansion, here I come.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
First time I heard blatant copying was called ambition.
Suilebhain
First time out of the vault
I think the greatest failure of FO4 as an RPG is that it does not seem to connect to it's own internal story with followup. For example, you tell someone that the Institute took your son, and they say, "Man, that's tough" but no one seems to care. Well, that might be true in real life, where most people are wrapped up in their own heads to the degree that they forget that you might have your own tale of woe, like Preston Garvey continuing to keep you busy with this settlement and that one needing your help immediately, but you might think that, considering all the things you do for your direct companions, who all tell you how grateful they are to you for helping them, ONE of them might say, "Let's get back on the track of finding your son."
None do.
Then there are the threads that you might choose to follow.
(MILD SPOILER ALERT) For example, you must be pretty sure that Roger Waldwick is more than he seems, based on what his children tell you, but once you find out just how much, and what the future holds for him, you are completely unable to move on it. All you can do is ask him to trade. That is, in my book, a major failed opportunity to promote RP and to further the choices you can make.
Also, with the Railroad, once you have aided Curie, does not her presence mean anything to them, other than Glory bellyaching about her lost friend? No one says, "I see that you are traveling with a synth. Good for you!"
The latter is very minor, but I think a big ball was dropped with the former. You've been helping the Warwicks out with their settlement and its issues, would you not, as a person, form some sort of friendship with them? Would you not feel compelled to at least warn them in some manner?
I personally like the game and have over 100 hours logged, judging by the Days Hours Minutes played when logging in, and still have not reached the end of the story, but a little more attention to detail would have been nice.
None do.
Then there are the threads that you might choose to follow.
(MILD SPOILER ALERT) For example, you must be pretty sure that Roger Waldwick is more than he seems, based on what his children tell you, but once you find out just how much, and what the future holds for him, you are completely unable to move on it. All you can do is ask him to trade. That is, in my book, a major failed opportunity to promote RP and to further the choices you can make.
Also, with the Railroad, once you have aided Curie, does not her presence mean anything to them, other than Glory bellyaching about her lost friend? No one says, "I see that you are traveling with a synth. Good for you!"
The latter is very minor, but I think a big ball was dropped with the former. You've been helping the Warwicks out with their settlement and its issues, would you not, as a person, form some sort of friendship with them? Would you not feel compelled to at least warn them in some manner?
I personally like the game and have over 100 hours logged, judging by the Days Hours Minutes played when logging in, and still have not reached the end of the story, but a little more attention to detail would have been nice.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
As I said in another thread, there are numerous posts about the best places to "grind for XP" and "level grind" in Fallout 4. This is the antithesis of what an RPG is and only exemplifies how Fallout 4 is singleplayer Borderlands grindfest.
Well, Fallout 4 is a whole genre on its own. It is an MSGQS
The Massively-Singleplayer-Generic-Quest-Simulator
The Massively-Singleplayer-Generic-Quest-Simulator
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Who wants to make a petition to make this a real thing?
ZigzagPX4
The Swiftness of the Ranger
Absolutely not. If we get another game in the same genre coming out and other publishers pick up how easy it is to make cash off crap products, then we'll never get another good game again. It'll just be one after another row of Fallout 4 rip-offs.
Let there be one MSGQS and never more. For all eternity.