The Fallout 4 review by members of No Mutants Allowed

Black Angel said:
Alright, then. Based on this part alone, I'm gonna start ignoring you and your inane ramblings about how, "Everything is subjective".
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As for Daggerfall, I hear that there's no harm in restarting in the first dungeon if the random generation adversely affects you. Anyone else can verify this?
 
CerberusGate said:
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As for Daggerfall, I hear that there's no harm in restarting in the first dungeon if the random generation adversely affects you. Anyone else can verify this?
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Yeah, there's a lot of random generation going on, and sometimes the starting dungeon can be quite hard.

Black Angel said:
On side note, @Hassknecht any tips for starting Daggerfall?
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Don't be frustrated. There is A LOT of RNG involved, most quests are dungeoncrawls through randomly generated, sometimes extremely long dungeons, and the game is frustrating as hell. I'd recommend starting with a melee based class (warrior is pretty much standard with no advantages or disadvantages), because magic-based classes in Daggerfall are pretty damn hard. The magic system in general is clunky as fuck.
Invest in Mark&Recall spells/scrolls, because they make the dungeon crawls so much easier.
Take your time and read a few guides, the game is ridiculously big and has a lot of possibilities. And a lot of tricks. For example, if you need directions in a city, ask a bystander. If they don't know or only know vague locations, ask them again and again, they will mark stuff on your map at some point.
 
AccountNameM said:
Care to explain why I'm being ignored?
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That reminds me, I keep wondering when we will see an "ignore user" feature to this forum. There have been a lot of cool updates lately, and I keep expecting one to appear. :) As the Fallout franchise gets dumber and dumber, the trolls get less and less interesting and automatically ignoring them becomes more attractive.

OH MAN there is one how did I not notice that. Never mind! (No seriously, how long has this feature been here? Have I been suffering this whole time for no reason?)
 
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tekhedd said:
That reminds me, I keep wondering when we will see an "ignore user" feature to this forum. There have been a lot of cool updates lately, and I keep expecting one to appear. :) As the Fallout franchise gets dumber and dumber, the trolls get less and less interesting and automatically ignoring them becomes more attractive.

OH MAN there is one how did I not notice that. Never mind! (No seriously, how long has this feature been here? Have I been suffering this whole time for no reason?)
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its been here at least since april 20th 2016...
 
Damn, did this review hit home so hard. I remember thinking Fallout 4 was the best Fallout when it came out. Good thing this review snapped me back into focus.
Yeah, the graphics are configured poorly, story is just as stale as FO3's if not worse, the settlement system is a shitshow, and its worse than New Vegas in terms of glitches and bugs.
Yet I'd be lying if I said I didn't play the hell out of Fallout 4. The game is incredibly mod-friendly (maybe that was the point), and I really like Nick Valentine as a companion.
 
Bump!

@The Dutch Ghost

How did you approach writing this review? How did people know what to write? Were everyone asked to write a paragraph on each of the following?
  • Introduction
  • General Story/World
  • Gameplay
  • Graphics
  • Music/Sound
  • Replayability
  • Survival Mode
  • The Lore of Fallout versus Fallout 4
  • Final Thoughts
How did you communicate during the time playing Fallout 4?
 
Hello Proletären,

It has been such a long time ago that I honestly do not even recall how we exactly planned how to write the review.
As you know I did not participate in it myself as I do not like Fallout 4. Perhaps that is why I have forgotten most about this review.

It could be quite well that I divided up the review subjects like that to begin with.
If anything I would probably use that for Fallout 5 if that comes out and we need people to review it for NMA.

Communication probably happened through PM here on NMA as we did not use any messenger program like Skype for example.
In the future of course we could use Discord as NMA has its own channel and it would be easy to make a new sub channel were reviewers can share their thoughts and of course the review text they have written.

Sorry for keeping you waiting for a response.
 
Big No said:
I mean, CT Phipps would probably give it a 9/10 so I dunno if he'd be reliable for a review

I've sunk quite alot of hours into Fallout 4. Last time I checked I had apparently played 21 days worth, whatever that is in hours. I've never written a review before but I'd be intrigued nonetheless.
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Oh that's an insane amount of hours. What's the deal?

You are very welcome to write one if you feel inclined! We are very happy for any content to put on the front page. You can PM me if you write one and I will happily proof read.
 
I think we all have written our parts, which were later combined. I am not sure if it was Google docs or something. I am pretty sure only one person had access to modifying the document.

It Has been a while, it would be probably easier to do something like this on Discord.
 
Big No said:
I mean, CT Phipps would probably give it a 9/10 so I dunno if he'd be reliable for a review

I've sunk quite alot of hours into Fallout 4. Last time I checked I had apparently played 21 days worth, whatever that is in hours. I've never written a review before but I'd be intrigued nonetheless.
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Basically, my opinion of No Mutants Allowed fell a great deal when I didn't like Fallout 4 nearly as much as I liked Fallout 3 but it was impossible to discuss this quality on No Mutants Allowed because as far as many fans were concerned, Fallout 3 was so utterly lacking in anything positive that both games were equally terrible in every way and thus there was no point in discussing comparing the two. Fallout 3 being one of my all time favorite video games but Fallout 4 being "okay."

http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2015/11/fallout-4-review.html?m=1

It became difficult to have any sort of discussion because as far as I could tell, there was no point to discussion.

It ironically killed much of my interests in the forum because since the hate was so perfectly "everything" that even what I disliked couldn't be talked about because they just had written me off as positive guy.
 
There really is no point in having a discussion when one side says "Fallout 1 is better" then the other side says "Bethesda Fallout better" with little more than subjective feelings listed as proof. Some people like immersive FPS games. Some people like immersive CRPG's. End of story.

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This game was a letdown due to people wanting Fallout but it is still a better RPG than anything Bethesda has made since Morrowind.
 
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@Ediros and @CT Phipps do any of you remember how the review came about and what you were asked to do on beforehand? Did you have specific aspects to look for while playing the game?

@CT Phipps, I see! We hold some pretty firm believes on this forum so I'm not surprised. What can be done about that without changing our soul?
 
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Well the thing I primarily play RPGs for is story. So I feel like Fallout 4 really felt half-assed and a lot of the "choice" between the four factions was surface level deep at best. There's really only two endings with "Pro-Institute" and "Destroy Institute." It also stole massive amounts from Blade Runner without somehow managing to include anything good from my all time favorite movie.

Which helps explain why I hold the game in disdain.

Proletären said:
@CT Phipps, I see! We hold some pretty firm believes on this forum so I'm not surprised. What can be done about that without changing our soul?
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Eh, people's opinions are opinions but it's the case where it doesn't invite much discussion. I could talk a great deal about how I feel Fallout 4 was inferior in terms of storytelling and heart compared to Fallout 3 but I know a lot of people would just look at me confused because they don't see the things I did in Fallout 3.

Art is subjective sometimes too so I might be bringing my own appreciation for artistic choices there.

At the end of the day, you can respect another poster's opinion but still totally disagree with it.
 
@Proletären

Well, we had to Play through the game, we had a list of subjects we all needed to write about, some were optional. I think @AgentBJ09 was responsible for formatting, etc, but I am not certain.

Basically everyone wrote something then we all added them together.
 
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