The first Season of the Fallout tv show is out

But it's still superior to 7-9.
Here's the thing with sequels, they're like Bethesda Fallouts, they're great on their own, but they fail to connect to previous established work.
I like parts of Ep 2 and I actually really like Ep 3 but I know that position is not popular. I stopped watching before Ep. 8 when it became clear that they were wrecking the whole thing.
Oh dude it's completely the other way around, right now hating prequels is unpopular, everyone loves prequels, and even gaslights themselves into thinking those movies don't have flaws.
 
Both, but I didn't care for Star Wars EU outside of basic stuff. I couldn't care less about Star Wars now.
that's fair, but I will say 2D CW2003 is superior to 3D TCW2008, by having better animation, better characters, better writing, better continuity with the movies, better music. Genndy Tartakovsky rules.
 
Lee Moldaver will come back as a synth, she had her mind uploaded as a precaution ready to go as a synth.
 
Lee Moldaver will come back as a synth, she had her mind uploaded as a precaution ready to go as a synth.
Can't wait for girlboss' return, we need that black lesbian independent strong communist woman to wreck all the white straight capitalist men that will all obviously be stupid, weak, evil or all together.
 
Oh dude it's completely the other way around, right now hating prequels is unpopular, everyone loves prequels, and even gaslights themselves into thinking those movies don't have flaws.
Fair enough. They certainly have heavy flaws. I do think if Hayden Christenson had been a better actor and the script was a bit better, Ep 3 could have been really, really good.

He and Padme together just wasn't believable. Those 2 in Ep 2 were meme worthy. 1 was boring, 2 was popcorn fun, 3 was almost great IMO.
 
Fair enough. They certainly have heavy flaws. I do think if Hayden Christenson had been a better actor and the script was a bit better, Ep 3 could have been really, really good.
Oh that's for sure, Hayden Christensen was great, he even kinda resembles young David Prowse (Darth Vader body actor). Script was bad, but the scenes where Hayden Christensen says nothing are really good.
He and Padme together just wasn't believable. Those 2 in Ep 2 were meme worthy. 1 was boring, 2 was popcorn fun, 3 was almost great IMO.
Anakin literally admitted to Padme, a senator who loves democracy, that he supports dictatorships, lmaooo, there were so much red flags.
 
Fallout 2 is it's superior in every way. :)

Funny that this was actually a debate back in the day when Fallout 2 was the "new sequel." The applauds for Fallout 2 were many. It is an interesting game and the world is much more expansion, there are so many more stories and interactions, and so much more to play with.

That said, Fallout 2's strengths were also a weakness. The Enclave was simply not that interesting a group of bad guys as the Master and his army and while the story had "more stuff" it kind of lacked the narrative focus, the need for resolution, that Fallout 1 has. Don't get me wrong, Fallout 2 is a very good, if somewhat flawed, derivative of Fallout 1, and a fun game.

But I would argue that Fallout 2 is where we begin to see the breakdown begin, where we lose sight of the world and it starts to fall apart. The Law of Entropy begins in Fallout 2. While New Vegas was, in some ways, a return to the Fallout 1 and 2, in terms of his focus on story and atmosphere, and so an effort to get back to the core, in the end, New Vegas also has its problems. New Vegas reminds us that the form of Fallout 3 could be married with the story of Fallout 1 and 2. But even New Vegas has way too many flaws and was also an incomplete project, with the modding community filling up the big blanks and problems.

But Fallout 1- gives us the first vaults, the problem of the waterchip, deathclaws, the first gangs including the Khans. Think of the places- Shady Sands, Junktown, the Hub, The Boneyard. Or the factions- The Followers of the Apocalypse, The Brotherhood, supermutants? There is so much plot here- FEV, the original cause for the ghouls, Necropolis, the Water Merchants. Remember the first interactions Harold before he becomes a tree. Or Dogmeat? How many players got chopped to pieces because Ian got happy with a submachine gun? How many of us remember struggling how to save Dogmat from being fried? Back then the weapons were very generic because the writers didn't have the pressure to appeal to public pressure. They could make a creative game out of their imaginations. Fallout 1 is a great accomplishment. The others are all derivatives.

Fallout 1 is the creative bedrock of all the other games to come after it. The original Wasteland might have been the initial spark, but it was Fallout 1 that created the world that all other Fallouts owe their origins. You can't really understand the Fallout world, without Fallout 1.

My list would have started with Fallout New Vegas, and then Fallout 1 and 2. I am not sure if I would do Tactics before Fallout 3. But what about the original Wasteland - the game that gave us "The Junkmaster" and the original Rangers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_(video_game) . A classic game and, just reviewing the plot, you can see how Fallout 1 was its descendant. I am sorry CT, but Fallout 2 is a wonderful game, but it suffers from its own core ambitions.
 
that's fair, but I will say 2D CW2003 is superior to 3D TCW2008, by having better animation, better characters, better writing, better continuity with the movies, better music. Genndy Tartakovsky rules.
amazing that every word of that first sentence is wrong but ok
 
Can't wait for girlboss' return, we need that black lesbian independent strong communist woman to wreck all the white straight capitalist men that will all obviously be stupid, weak, evil or all together.

It is notable that she's the show's villain according to all the metrics of culture warring Youtube commentators.
 
Isn't she a twist good guy at the end?

I mean, she's keeping mindless Lucy's ghoul mom as a pet and makes no attempts to justify her mass murder in Episode 1.

Jonathan Nolan doesn't really "do" good guys and loves everyone being morally compromised.
 
The funniest thing about the Fallout TV show is it just made immediately want to replay the original Fallout, and then replay it again with Fallout Fixt. I'd like to think of it as my Fallout fan defense mechanism of immersing myself in the original, Wasteland-flirting material, when this shitheap came out.
As for the tutorial, Tim wanted it to be skippable but was denied that and then he tried to make it skippable if you had already beaten the game before and they said no to that as well. Why? Fuck if I know. I figured the initial reason to force the tutorial into the game was fear of new players quitting the game without it but Tim's desire to skip it even post-game is completely reasonable. It's not on you if you say, "Here's how to play this game. But if you feel comfortable learning through trial and error or already know it, you may skip it" and someone skips it without knowing jackshit.
That's why I have to replay that bullshit every time I replay Fallout 2?? Good to know, thanks.
 
I mean, she's keeping mindless Lucy's ghoul mom as a pet and makes no attempts to justify her mass murder in Episode 1.

Jonathan Nolan doesn't really "do" good guys and loves everyone being morally compromised.
What about Vault 4 being completely good guy?
 
The funniest thing about the Fallout TV show is it just made immediately want to replay the original Fallout, and then replay it again with Fallout Fixt. I'd like to think of it as my Fallout fan defense mechanism of immersing myself in the original, Wasteland-flirting material, when this shitheap came out.

Thus the cruel wicked irony of the show. For older Fallout fans, the show (however bad it was) triggers all sorts of nostalgia that sends those fans back to the original source material to revisit a game they loved so well. Heck, it even might bring some old fans back to the fallout forums they once haunted in their younger days.

It is notable that she's the show's villain according to all the metrics of culture warring Youtube commentators.

Seriously? Ok, first episode I see it, but at the end? Kind of says a lot about today's culture warring Youtuber commentators. I rather liked this character and her story, of how companies regularly buy out new technologies that are more socially responsible and better for society because it threatens their profitability is fairly accurate. Honestly, I thought she was hot, but maybe that's just me showing my advancing age.
 
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Heck, it even might bring some old fans back to the fallout forums they once haunted in their younger days.
Yeah, I've seen NMA muties who haven't posted here since 2008 crawl back in here just to voice their appraisal of the new show. Weird, man.
 
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