TheChosen1
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Vault 58 was supplied with chems and F3/4 are just some guys tripping their balls off along with the guy who OD'd and saw POS
The Vault Lore Competition: Submit Your Theory Today, Win a Prize Tomorrow. Maybe.
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Vault 58 was supplied with chems and F3/4 are just some guys tripping their balls off along with the guy who OD'd and saw POS
I am not entirely happy with the writing of this large block of text as I feel my English still has to many short comings.
Hopefully people here can look past my grammar and sentence errors and get the general idea that I am trying to tell.
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Theory: what if the Enclave itself was an experiment?
From real life perspective:
The idea came to me years ago while re playing Fallout 2 again and coming across the reference material to the so called 'Vault Experiments'.
These experiments were done on unsuspecting Vault Dwellers to see how they would deal with various hardships, obstacles, limitations and dangerous conditions, the research data being collected by the Enclave's scientists for some unknown purpose.
These experiments were the in game explanation why so many of the Vaults did not work as they should be or were just plain broken (in contrast to Fallout 1 in which the failure of the most of the Vaults was due to poor planning and management, budget cutbacks and poor construction, and just unforeseen developments)
The Vault Experiments would explain Vault City (this was a control Vault, one of the few properly working Vaults), Vault 13, and a lot of the Vaults in Fallout 3 and New Vegas (though there a lot of the experiments became less about testing people in order to gather information about the human psyche and ability to adapt and more about having the populations face insane and ridiculous situations and conditions that felt more like sadistic jokes than anything that could lead to information for a practical purpose. (there are exceptions of course)
In the end game of Fallout 2 it would be revealed that the Pre government/Enclave had been behind these experiments, with their descendants monitoring the Vaults and their population in order to gather information needed for an interplanetary/interstellar colonization program.
But it made me think of what would happen if this setup had been taken a bit further. What if it was revealed through information the player had collected from various computer databases throughout the journey in Fallout 2, with the final pieces at the Poseidon Oil Rig, if the Enclave itself had been an experiment too?
Where the regular Vaults were just intended to shelter and contain various portions of American society, the Enclave itself would shelter a carefully created and maintained piece of the US government itself.
The ideas, the mentality, so-called Elite members more important than regular people that had to survive at all costs because without them the true America would die.
Basically they themselves would be a test group too, to see if America could maintain itself during times of crisis and isolation, and then go out and rebuild civilization and society in the image of what they thought America was before the great war (and what it should be according to them)
Would they unite the divided populations on the mainland and organize a combined rebuilding effort?
Would they remain in isolation and try to rebuild that way?
Various scenarios had been thought up by the scientists before the War and were put in place to be triggered and carried out when the Enclave was set up at the Poseidon Oil Rig.
The idea that this population was the true America would be continuously reinforced to ensure that these people would stick to the plan. (in a visible way through propaganda and on a subconscious way through various brain washing techniques)
Even the elections were planned and rigged in such a way that any leadership chosen would have similar mindsets to those who authorized the project in the first place, continuing it while under the impression that this was completely their own idea.
Similar to Fallout 1's encounter with the Master, the player would be able to confront President Richardson with this information, breaking through the indoctrination and image he has of himself, the Enclave, and the people outside the Enclave, and for the first time making him realize he isn't so much the leader of the free world but a carefully selected pawn in a planned experiment.
Almost everything he has been doing since he became a politician and assumed the position of leadership is all according to the guidelines made up by long dead scientists.
This would make Richardson 'question his faith' as it were, everything he believes in has been a lie.
He isn't even really free himself.
Richardson would hand the player the Presidential access key and for the first time in his life question what he truly wants for himself.
In game description:
The last tumultuous decades to October 23[SUP]th[/SUP] 2077 made it clear to the US government, its various advisor committees, think tanks, backers, and other government affiliated parties that some radical changes were coming up that would reshape the geopolitical landscape and even human civilization as a whole.
With resources such as fossil fuels running out, no breakthrough in developing replacements, and a slow switch to alternative renewable energies or nuclear power, the United States was in desperate need for new sources to fuel its economy and support its population and way of life.
For a long time the planets and the asteroids of the Solar System had already been considered for mineral exploitation, and various plans and designs had been on the drawing board before the government reduced the funding of the US Space Administration, expecting that private industries would fill in the gap and continue the development.
House Industries after acquiring REPCONN was working in practical interplanetary mining using robots sent by rockets, but it would take decades before anything practical would come of the assembly lines and make sufficient returns to maintain the current way of life.
Poseidon Energy was still in the process of switching from traditional fuel sources to alternatives and focused more on developing miracle technology breakthroughs such as fusion power.
Its space industry subsidiaries had so far put satellites in orbit and not done any development on interplanetary travel.
Then when the conflict with China started over the last great oil well in the Pacific Ocean and the Chinese invasion of Alaska, projections made it clear that within a decade or two there would be a nuclear war with China. A war that would wipe out American civilization.
Other than striking China so fast and hard that it would be unable to mount such an attack (something that would be impossible as it would require a drastic increase in troops and equipment and a strategy that the Chinese would be unable to figure out until it would be to late for them to counter attack), or going underground and hoping for the best, would be to evacuate to another planet.
But where to go? Missions to the moon and probes sent during the late 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century and early 21[SUP]th[/SUP] century had revealed most of the worlds of the Solar System to be either desolate wastelands or having poisonous environments in which humans could not survive without life support equipment and air tight shelters.
Actually making these worlds inhabitable would require decades or even centuries and that would still involve resources and technological support from an industrial capable homeworld.
If a nuclear war happened any colonization mission would find itself without this support.
What was needed was a habitable world or at least a marginal habitable world in which a well equipped colonization expedition without external support could establish a new outpost for humanity and continue the American way of life.
Astronomical observation of nearby star systems throughout the last century had revealed that there were possible target worlds in the habitable bands around parent stars, and that some of these even had water on its surface and an atmosphere, the necessities for life.
Then when fusion power was finally developed the stars became a lot closer for a manned expedition but a lot of questions still remained.
A manned mission to the stars would require tremendous technological breakthroughs such as self contained and regulating habitats and advanced life support equipment, shielding against cosmic radiation, advanced computers to keep the ship on course, and so much more.
And then there was still the human question. How would a population cope with being stuck in a single environment for decades if not generations? And what kind of society would exist on board the ship when it finally arrived at the new homeworld, would it still resemble America even in the slightest?
It would have been easier if cryonic technology had been perfected to put a crew and colonists in suspended animation, carefully watched over by robots and computers to make sure no harm would come to the population.
But cryoscience was still in its experimental phase, with Post-Cryonic Syndrome still to often occurring on the test subjects.
The only viable solution for the moment would be a generation ship, crewed by a selected population whose descendants would set foot on the new planet.
Research and experiments had to be conducted, not just on experimental technology and unproven science but also on society issues and population.
Project Safehouse that had been proposed after the nuclear destruction of Tel Aviv by terrorists and the limited nuclear war in the Middle East by the European Commonwealth was appropriated for this purpose.
A number of the planned Vaults would be selected to test out either technologies such as plant genetic research, or society and psychological experiments to test to strength of the human spirit to the rigors of long range space travel.
That of course still left the big question; would America itself survive? The Vaults just contained microcosm representations of parts of its society, but it could not contain concepts like its leadership, ideology, culture, and so on, or just on a limited scope.
In truth the people proposing this research were just interested in seeing if their own political power and lifestyles could be maintained, seeing themselves only as the worthy elite whose descendants should be send to the new world.
If everything they had worked for would collapse anyway they saw little reason to continue with this line of questioning.
What was needed was a microcosm of the current America itself. The leadership of the US had already descended into a conservative jingoistic ultra paranoid mob that desperately tried to hold on to its power, and they wanted to make damn sure it would stay that way in the future.
Had their associates and followers known that they themselves would soon find themselves on the selection boards for the largest of the society preservation experiments they would have probably protested or taken drastic action against their leadership.
Instead they were left as much in the dark as the common Americans that had been 'chosen' to become a member of any of the Vault populations.
Politicians, military leaders, corporate leaders, scientists, all of them who had not been part of the highest echelon of leadership were deemed available for selection to make up a population that would be a small representation of America.
They were told that they would be the inheritors of America and that it would be their task to reclaim North America and perhaps the rest of the world and restore the United States.
Their 'habitat' would be fitted with various equipment, technologies, and supplies similar to those who had planned the Colonization Mission expected to send along.
Not just the existing current state of the art level of weapons, machines and equipment, but also the means to develop and improve existing ones but also create complete new ones, and the means to mass manufacture these.
The Poseidon Oil Rig was selected to contain this Vault for the Elite, the so called 'Enclave'. It was already an advanced installation when it was built but could also be easily refitted and modified for this new purpose.
And when the oil had ran out the installation had lost an importance as a strategic target. (just to be sure, a portion of the Pacific Fleet was reassigned to the Rig as well to watch over it)
The idea that these people were the best of what was left of the human species would be constantly reinforced as would be the political ideas, concepts and ideology from before the war, the result being that an in general terrible leadership would not only be continued but also be made much worse over the decades.
Only a handful of cool and balanced heads, mostly amongst the lower ranking members would exist amongst a population of ultra paranoids with fascist tendencies, seeing enemies everywhere.
And while these people would scheme, conspire, plan, and wait for the time that they could return to the mainland and reclaim it, they would be carefully watched, their actions and developments monitored, analyzed, categorized, and then stored in vast electronic archives for when the true goal of the society preservation experiments could finally be carried out.
So a few questions would remain at the end of Fallout 2
Who is really collecting all the research data from the Vault experiments including the Enclave experiment?
I don't really like the idea of there being some true Enclave out there as it would lead to bad plot development in the future, the player at some point finding this organization in another Fallout game, bringing up the Enclave, and getting the response “Ah but they were not the true Enclave, we are! We monitored and controlled everything from out secret hideout while preparing for the day that true pure humanity can reclaim the Earth.
Rather I would prefer that all the information collected ended up being sent to some data processing center full of computers and the decaying bodies of scientists, technicians, etc who died a long time ago, either from natural reasons or suicide when the results of their projects started to take to long.
Where is the starship?
Is it hidden somewhere on Earth? either at a launch base at a remote location that could not possible have been affected by the War as strategists and scientists deemed it unlikely that the Chinese would ever even target this place, let alone sent spy planes or satellites to check it out? (I am pretty sure that they would check out any location where there is a lot of government, military, or even private industry activity)
Is it hidden in some underground silo, similar to the US' ICBMs, still being maintained robots controlled by Pre War computers?
Is it perhaps in orbit around Earth, also still being operated and maintained by robots and computers with its course adjusted from time to time to prevent a decaying orbit?
We know that even in Fallout 2 there were still some working satellites in orbit despite two centuries of wear and tear and not having been refueled in all this time. (it is not impossible to image some orbital satellite refuel station)
It would be very likely that the Chinese would have targeted the starship during the war it would have been something to difficult to ignore.
To avoid being targeted it would have to be in such a wide orbit around Earth that there could be the risk it accidentally being shot out of it if the computers on board did not adjust the orbit.
Is it perhaps in orbit around the moon or the moon itself?
There were missions to moon in the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century of the Fallout universe, and apparently in the 21[SUP]th[/SUP] Century according to Fallout 4 as it was a contested 'region'.
It wouldn't be that unlikely that the starship could be there but it would require quite some missions to deliver all the material and technology for construction there which would be difficult as the US was starving for resources and the US Space Administration along with a lot of agencies had their funding cut as these were needed for expanding military assets.
I like to imagine to imagine that the government together with its private contractors did the following approach; rather than constructing the ship on Earth, in Earth's orbit, or on the Moon, that they instead may have sent rockets carrying robots, mining equipment, disassembled factories, refineries and everything else to set up an industrial infrastructure to say the asteroid belt.
Once there the robots would set up everything and start mining the asteroids for construction materials for the ship and various elements needed to refine into fuel such as water and fissionable ores such as uranium.
In the meantime back on Earth the government would wait out the construction of the ship while monitoring its various experiments until the day comes that the ship is finished and heads towards Earth to pick up its crew and passengers.
Hopefully people here can look past my grammar and sentence errors and get the general idea that I am trying to tell.
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Theory: what if the Enclave itself was an experiment?
From real life perspective:
The idea came to me years ago while re playing Fallout 2 again and coming across the reference material to the so called 'Vault Experiments'.
These experiments were done on unsuspecting Vault Dwellers to see how they would deal with various hardships, obstacles, limitations and dangerous conditions, the research data being collected by the Enclave's scientists for some unknown purpose.
These experiments were the in game explanation why so many of the Vaults did not work as they should be or were just plain broken (in contrast to Fallout 1 in which the failure of the most of the Vaults was due to poor planning and management, budget cutbacks and poor construction, and just unforeseen developments)
The Vault Experiments would explain Vault City (this was a control Vault, one of the few properly working Vaults), Vault 13, and a lot of the Vaults in Fallout 3 and New Vegas (though there a lot of the experiments became less about testing people in order to gather information about the human psyche and ability to adapt and more about having the populations face insane and ridiculous situations and conditions that felt more like sadistic jokes than anything that could lead to information for a practical purpose. (there are exceptions of course)
In the end game of Fallout 2 it would be revealed that the Pre government/Enclave had been behind these experiments, with their descendants monitoring the Vaults and their population in order to gather information needed for an interplanetary/interstellar colonization program.
But it made me think of what would happen if this setup had been taken a bit further. What if it was revealed through information the player had collected from various computer databases throughout the journey in Fallout 2, with the final pieces at the Poseidon Oil Rig, if the Enclave itself had been an experiment too?
Where the regular Vaults were just intended to shelter and contain various portions of American society, the Enclave itself would shelter a carefully created and maintained piece of the US government itself.
The ideas, the mentality, so-called Elite members more important than regular people that had to survive at all costs because without them the true America would die.
Basically they themselves would be a test group too, to see if America could maintain itself during times of crisis and isolation, and then go out and rebuild civilization and society in the image of what they thought America was before the great war (and what it should be according to them)
Would they unite the divided populations on the mainland and organize a combined rebuilding effort?
Would they remain in isolation and try to rebuild that way?
Various scenarios had been thought up by the scientists before the War and were put in place to be triggered and carried out when the Enclave was set up at the Poseidon Oil Rig.
The idea that this population was the true America would be continuously reinforced to ensure that these people would stick to the plan. (in a visible way through propaganda and on a subconscious way through various brain washing techniques)
Even the elections were planned and rigged in such a way that any leadership chosen would have similar mindsets to those who authorized the project in the first place, continuing it while under the impression that this was completely their own idea.
Similar to Fallout 1's encounter with the Master, the player would be able to confront President Richardson with this information, breaking through the indoctrination and image he has of himself, the Enclave, and the people outside the Enclave, and for the first time making him realize he isn't so much the leader of the free world but a carefully selected pawn in a planned experiment.
Almost everything he has been doing since he became a politician and assumed the position of leadership is all according to the guidelines made up by long dead scientists.
This would make Richardson 'question his faith' as it were, everything he believes in has been a lie.
He isn't even really free himself.
Richardson would hand the player the Presidential access key and for the first time in his life question what he truly wants for himself.
In game description:
The last tumultuous decades to October 23[SUP]th[/SUP] 2077 made it clear to the US government, its various advisor committees, think tanks, backers, and other government affiliated parties that some radical changes were coming up that would reshape the geopolitical landscape and even human civilization as a whole.
With resources such as fossil fuels running out, no breakthrough in developing replacements, and a slow switch to alternative renewable energies or nuclear power, the United States was in desperate need for new sources to fuel its economy and support its population and way of life.
For a long time the planets and the asteroids of the Solar System had already been considered for mineral exploitation, and various plans and designs had been on the drawing board before the government reduced the funding of the US Space Administration, expecting that private industries would fill in the gap and continue the development.
House Industries after acquiring REPCONN was working in practical interplanetary mining using robots sent by rockets, but it would take decades before anything practical would come of the assembly lines and make sufficient returns to maintain the current way of life.
Poseidon Energy was still in the process of switching from traditional fuel sources to alternatives and focused more on developing miracle technology breakthroughs such as fusion power.
Its space industry subsidiaries had so far put satellites in orbit and not done any development on interplanetary travel.
Then when the conflict with China started over the last great oil well in the Pacific Ocean and the Chinese invasion of Alaska, projections made it clear that within a decade or two there would be a nuclear war with China. A war that would wipe out American civilization.
Other than striking China so fast and hard that it would be unable to mount such an attack (something that would be impossible as it would require a drastic increase in troops and equipment and a strategy that the Chinese would be unable to figure out until it would be to late for them to counter attack), or going underground and hoping for the best, would be to evacuate to another planet.
But where to go? Missions to the moon and probes sent during the late 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century and early 21[SUP]th[/SUP] century had revealed most of the worlds of the Solar System to be either desolate wastelands or having poisonous environments in which humans could not survive without life support equipment and air tight shelters.
Actually making these worlds inhabitable would require decades or even centuries and that would still involve resources and technological support from an industrial capable homeworld.
If a nuclear war happened any colonization mission would find itself without this support.
What was needed was a habitable world or at least a marginal habitable world in which a well equipped colonization expedition without external support could establish a new outpost for humanity and continue the American way of life.
Astronomical observation of nearby star systems throughout the last century had revealed that there were possible target worlds in the habitable bands around parent stars, and that some of these even had water on its surface and an atmosphere, the necessities for life.
Then when fusion power was finally developed the stars became a lot closer for a manned expedition but a lot of questions still remained.
A manned mission to the stars would require tremendous technological breakthroughs such as self contained and regulating habitats and advanced life support equipment, shielding against cosmic radiation, advanced computers to keep the ship on course, and so much more.
And then there was still the human question. How would a population cope with being stuck in a single environment for decades if not generations? And what kind of society would exist on board the ship when it finally arrived at the new homeworld, would it still resemble America even in the slightest?
It would have been easier if cryonic technology had been perfected to put a crew and colonists in suspended animation, carefully watched over by robots and computers to make sure no harm would come to the population.
But cryoscience was still in its experimental phase, with Post-Cryonic Syndrome still to often occurring on the test subjects.
The only viable solution for the moment would be a generation ship, crewed by a selected population whose descendants would set foot on the new planet.
Research and experiments had to be conducted, not just on experimental technology and unproven science but also on society issues and population.
Project Safehouse that had been proposed after the nuclear destruction of Tel Aviv by terrorists and the limited nuclear war in the Middle East by the European Commonwealth was appropriated for this purpose.
A number of the planned Vaults would be selected to test out either technologies such as plant genetic research, or society and psychological experiments to test to strength of the human spirit to the rigors of long range space travel.
That of course still left the big question; would America itself survive? The Vaults just contained microcosm representations of parts of its society, but it could not contain concepts like its leadership, ideology, culture, and so on, or just on a limited scope.
In truth the people proposing this research were just interested in seeing if their own political power and lifestyles could be maintained, seeing themselves only as the worthy elite whose descendants should be send to the new world.
If everything they had worked for would collapse anyway they saw little reason to continue with this line of questioning.
What was needed was a microcosm of the current America itself. The leadership of the US had already descended into a conservative jingoistic ultra paranoid mob that desperately tried to hold on to its power, and they wanted to make damn sure it would stay that way in the future.
Had their associates and followers known that they themselves would soon find themselves on the selection boards for the largest of the society preservation experiments they would have probably protested or taken drastic action against their leadership.
Instead they were left as much in the dark as the common Americans that had been 'chosen' to become a member of any of the Vault populations.
Politicians, military leaders, corporate leaders, scientists, all of them who had not been part of the highest echelon of leadership were deemed available for selection to make up a population that would be a small representation of America.
They were told that they would be the inheritors of America and that it would be their task to reclaim North America and perhaps the rest of the world and restore the United States.
Their 'habitat' would be fitted with various equipment, technologies, and supplies similar to those who had planned the Colonization Mission expected to send along.
Not just the existing current state of the art level of weapons, machines and equipment, but also the means to develop and improve existing ones but also create complete new ones, and the means to mass manufacture these.
The Poseidon Oil Rig was selected to contain this Vault for the Elite, the so called 'Enclave'. It was already an advanced installation when it was built but could also be easily refitted and modified for this new purpose.
And when the oil had ran out the installation had lost an importance as a strategic target. (just to be sure, a portion of the Pacific Fleet was reassigned to the Rig as well to watch over it)
The idea that these people were the best of what was left of the human species would be constantly reinforced as would be the political ideas, concepts and ideology from before the war, the result being that an in general terrible leadership would not only be continued but also be made much worse over the decades.
Only a handful of cool and balanced heads, mostly amongst the lower ranking members would exist amongst a population of ultra paranoids with fascist tendencies, seeing enemies everywhere.
And while these people would scheme, conspire, plan, and wait for the time that they could return to the mainland and reclaim it, they would be carefully watched, their actions and developments monitored, analyzed, categorized, and then stored in vast electronic archives for when the true goal of the society preservation experiments could finally be carried out.
So a few questions would remain at the end of Fallout 2
Who is really collecting all the research data from the Vault experiments including the Enclave experiment?
I don't really like the idea of there being some true Enclave out there as it would lead to bad plot development in the future, the player at some point finding this organization in another Fallout game, bringing up the Enclave, and getting the response “Ah but they were not the true Enclave, we are! We monitored and controlled everything from out secret hideout while preparing for the day that true pure humanity can reclaim the Earth.
Rather I would prefer that all the information collected ended up being sent to some data processing center full of computers and the decaying bodies of scientists, technicians, etc who died a long time ago, either from natural reasons or suicide when the results of their projects started to take to long.
Where is the starship?
Is it hidden somewhere on Earth? either at a launch base at a remote location that could not possible have been affected by the War as strategists and scientists deemed it unlikely that the Chinese would ever even target this place, let alone sent spy planes or satellites to check it out? (I am pretty sure that they would check out any location where there is a lot of government, military, or even private industry activity)
Is it hidden in some underground silo, similar to the US' ICBMs, still being maintained robots controlled by Pre War computers?
Is it perhaps in orbit around Earth, also still being operated and maintained by robots and computers with its course adjusted from time to time to prevent a decaying orbit?
We know that even in Fallout 2 there were still some working satellites in orbit despite two centuries of wear and tear and not having been refueled in all this time. (it is not impossible to image some orbital satellite refuel station)
It would be very likely that the Chinese would have targeted the starship during the war it would have been something to difficult to ignore.
To avoid being targeted it would have to be in such a wide orbit around Earth that there could be the risk it accidentally being shot out of it if the computers on board did not adjust the orbit.
Is it perhaps in orbit around the moon or the moon itself?
There were missions to moon in the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century of the Fallout universe, and apparently in the 21[SUP]th[/SUP] Century according to Fallout 4 as it was a contested 'region'.
It wouldn't be that unlikely that the starship could be there but it would require quite some missions to deliver all the material and technology for construction there which would be difficult as the US was starving for resources and the US Space Administration along with a lot of agencies had their funding cut as these were needed for expanding military assets.
I like to imagine to imagine that the government together with its private contractors did the following approach; rather than constructing the ship on Earth, in Earth's orbit, or on the Moon, that they instead may have sent rockets carrying robots, mining equipment, disassembled factories, refineries and everything else to set up an industrial infrastructure to say the asteroid belt.
Once there the robots would set up everything and start mining the asteroids for construction materials for the ship and various elements needed to refine into fuel such as water and fissionable ores such as uranium.
In the meantime back on Earth the government would wait out the construction of the ship while monitoring its various experiments until the day comes that the ship is finished and heads towards Earth to pick up its crew and passengers.
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Dr Fallout
Centurion
Neat idea! And great work!
AgentBJ09
Vault Dweller
The "Fallout 3 and 4 are actually 20 years removed from The Great War" theory would be more worthwhile to pursue, I think. May give that one a shot myself.
GarouxBloodline
Watchdog of the Wastes
Just a reminder that we are still looking for entries! For our potentials that are International, we are looking for ways to compromise in the form of digital prizes, so please do not hesitate to send in your entries to us. We still have until the end of the month (25th), so we hope to see some more NMA entries in that time.
I already sent in my entry but after it I started to think about other theory ideas I had made up.
One involved the aliens we saw in Fallout 3 Mothership Zeta (no, I am still not a fan of that game or the mentioned DLC which I thought was very bad).
Not theory that the aliens started the War (we know the Chinese launched first) but rather that there are no aliens at all!
What the player experienced in the Capital Wasteland? Not an alien abduction, but rather a carefully designed brainwashing/indoctrination program, complete with a sci fi adventure!
The beacon the player encounters at the end is not an alien device at all, hooked up to a mothership in orbit. Rather it is a sort of hypnotic 'transmitter' that uploads the Mothership Zeta scenario into anyone getting close to it.
The device was the result of cooperation between the military and intelligence agencies on creating distractions and false information for both the general public and any Chinese agents and sympathisers with the intention to cover intelligence and military projects such as the testing of new weapons.
This project went even as far as making up false alien bodies, fake weapons and devices, and even a 'crashed alien spaceship'.
The intention was even to continue this charade once America had defeated China (yep, the people who were planning all of this were quite convinced that the US would defeat China, making the country collapse before it had a chance to use its nuclear arsenal) in order to keep the new laws and restrictions in place and the war economy running, revealing an alien threat to the general public that was bent on conquering the planet and enslaving humanity.
Fake spacecraft and transmitters like the one the player encountered would be placed at locations for civilians to run into, have them experience the fake scenario in which they manage to escape captivity, free fellow prisoners, defeat the aliens, and then return with tales about the existence of aliens who have been monitoring humanity since the last centuries and have been abducting people while preparing for an invasion.
Of course the weapons the player picked up during Mothership Zeta would have to be revealed that they don't work on Earth. (they are props after all)
One involved the aliens we saw in Fallout 3 Mothership Zeta (no, I am still not a fan of that game or the mentioned DLC which I thought was very bad).
Not theory that the aliens started the War (we know the Chinese launched first) but rather that there are no aliens at all!
What the player experienced in the Capital Wasteland? Not an alien abduction, but rather a carefully designed brainwashing/indoctrination program, complete with a sci fi adventure!
The beacon the player encounters at the end is not an alien device at all, hooked up to a mothership in orbit. Rather it is a sort of hypnotic 'transmitter' that uploads the Mothership Zeta scenario into anyone getting close to it.
The device was the result of cooperation between the military and intelligence agencies on creating distractions and false information for both the general public and any Chinese agents and sympathisers with the intention to cover intelligence and military projects such as the testing of new weapons.
This project went even as far as making up false alien bodies, fake weapons and devices, and even a 'crashed alien spaceship'.
The intention was even to continue this charade once America had defeated China (yep, the people who were planning all of this were quite convinced that the US would defeat China, making the country collapse before it had a chance to use its nuclear arsenal) in order to keep the new laws and restrictions in place and the war economy running, revealing an alien threat to the general public that was bent on conquering the planet and enslaving humanity.
Fake spacecraft and transmitters like the one the player encountered would be placed at locations for civilians to run into, have them experience the fake scenario in which they manage to escape captivity, free fellow prisoners, defeat the aliens, and then return with tales about the existence of aliens who have been monitoring humanity since the last centuries and have been abducting people while preparing for an invasion.
Of course the weapons the player picked up during Mothership Zeta would have to be revealed that they don't work on Earth. (they are props after all)
GarouxBloodline
Watchdog of the Wastes
Remember that the soft-deadline is coming up, in a mere 7 days from now! We have some stragglers that are asking for an extension, which might bump us to a hard-deadline of the 31st. If anyone needs that extra time, let us know in advance so that we can go ahead and get familiar with a new deadline.
Zerginfestor
dear god, the scrapping
Oh crap, I'm late to the show huh? ;~; Well I don't mind, I'll just drop this theory here, as I've always had a wonder on one of Fallout's Deadliest creatures: The Deathclaw....but...what exactly makes a Deathclaw a Deathclaw?
I mean we understand that they were designed to be the perfect close-quarters shock trooper, closing in on enemy squads and possibly even armored divisions and tear them a new asshole, even more so now that the Master has turned them into what we see now, but how is a creature capable of slicing through power armor (ignoring Fallout 4 of course) capable of doing so? Not only tear through them, but slice through the thick armor with nothing but their claws, which for any other animal, they would most likely have their nails break or bent from attempting to harm the user within.
My theory is that the Deathclaw may have their basic DNA of the Jackson Chameleon, but I believe there must be more genetic manipulation at hand, and the other possible DNA that has melded into their genetic code could be:
-Primates, more specifically, human.
-Avian.
-Crocodile/Alligator Genetics (Fallout 4 only)
-The reason I placed human/primates as a possible genetic added in the Deathclaw's genes is mostly of how the Deathclaw's behavior is, along with it's figure. The Deathclaw, unlike other large predators, is a pack hunter (They can be alone, but from what I can tell, Deathclaws prefer to be in a family), placing them as social creatures, most likely communicating to one another and hunting in small packs. Not only that, but they seem to have a hierarchical system, with a Matriarch, an Alpha, and the rest as either offsprings, or other Deathclaws who were accepted into the family. Of course, other animals out there also have a system much like this, but another interesting ability the Deathclaws have is their ability to mimic human speech (not seen in Fallout NV or 3, but still very interesting), which they use to lure prey(you) into a deadly trap and ambush you. This could be a possible Avian genetic manipulation, but Deathclaws, with a rare mutation, can actually SPEAK, but in even rarer cases, can articulate as a human being. This would require them to have a very specific pair of vocal chords within their throat, and possibly very closely resemble much like ours in order to speak like us (Which is the only reason the other Great Apes cannot speak like humans, as their vocal cords are much different than ours). This also shows Deathclaws have a high level of intelligence, capable of seeing friend-or-foe, understand what's a threat, and what's prey (which is probably why it always comes for 'dat ass' of yours, seeing as it knows it can eviscerate you in a heartbeat).
As for the figure, the Deathclaw has 5 digits on each claw, four fingers and a thumb, which is incredibly rare for animals besides the primates to have, not only that, they seem comfortable in transitioning from Quadraped stance to a full fledge bipedal-stance, which most animals are capable of doing so, and very few animals can remain bipedal like a human can, showing perhaps human genetic manipulation is the cause of Deathclaws incredible intelligence, mutation within the hands, and capability of being perfectly bipedal.
-Avian is more of a guess, but hear me out. Deathclaws, despite their thick, tough hides and great size, seem to easily outrun just about anything in the wasteland. Bipedal helps with endurance, but perhaps their bones, being made of an unknown strong material, can also be hollowed and thus allowed Deathclaws amazing speed, what being lighter than others. Their bones can be genetically altered to be strong, yet at the same time, light as well.
-Crocodile/Alligator genetics could also be within the Deathclaw, though I can only see this in Fallout 4, what with the thicker, bone-like plating upon it's upper back and traveling down to it's tail, which seems flat and broader than before, could also be the reason for their heighten aggression.
For the very infamous foot-long claws, I'm not quite sure what's allowing them to slice through Power Armor with such ease. One theory that I think could be the reason is their claws are all mono molecular-edged, allowing them to slice through pretty much any material with ease, especially if the bones within the claw are made of a tough, hardy material. This could also explain why they would sharpen their claws...with their own claws, and this could mean the growth rate of the claws are quite high, much like rodent's teeth.
Another, simpler theory is they're just bulked up enough to 'punch' through the armor, like that of a bear slamming their claws on their prey, and their claws are incredibly dense to the point they can't shatter from such an impact, though this could mean their bone structure is incredibly dense, and it would be harder to explain how they're able to run faster than a human with such a dense skeleton structure.
TL;DR : Deathclaws could possibly not only be Jackson Chameleons, but rather a hybrid of genetics, one of them being human, and with claws capable of slicing through most material. A near-perfect experiment of nightmare fuel.
I mean we understand that they were designed to be the perfect close-quarters shock trooper, closing in on enemy squads and possibly even armored divisions and tear them a new asshole, even more so now that the Master has turned them into what we see now, but how is a creature capable of slicing through power armor (ignoring Fallout 4 of course) capable of doing so? Not only tear through them, but slice through the thick armor with nothing but their claws, which for any other animal, they would most likely have their nails break or bent from attempting to harm the user within.
My theory is that the Deathclaw may have their basic DNA of the Jackson Chameleon, but I believe there must be more genetic manipulation at hand, and the other possible DNA that has melded into their genetic code could be:
-Primates, more specifically, human.
-Avian.
-Crocodile/Alligator Genetics (Fallout 4 only)
-The reason I placed human/primates as a possible genetic added in the Deathclaw's genes is mostly of how the Deathclaw's behavior is, along with it's figure. The Deathclaw, unlike other large predators, is a pack hunter (They can be alone, but from what I can tell, Deathclaws prefer to be in a family), placing them as social creatures, most likely communicating to one another and hunting in small packs. Not only that, but they seem to have a hierarchical system, with a Matriarch, an Alpha, and the rest as either offsprings, or other Deathclaws who were accepted into the family. Of course, other animals out there also have a system much like this, but another interesting ability the Deathclaws have is their ability to mimic human speech (not seen in Fallout NV or 3, but still very interesting), which they use to lure prey(you) into a deadly trap and ambush you. This could be a possible Avian genetic manipulation, but Deathclaws, with a rare mutation, can actually SPEAK, but in even rarer cases, can articulate as a human being. This would require them to have a very specific pair of vocal chords within their throat, and possibly very closely resemble much like ours in order to speak like us (Which is the only reason the other Great Apes cannot speak like humans, as their vocal cords are much different than ours). This also shows Deathclaws have a high level of intelligence, capable of seeing friend-or-foe, understand what's a threat, and what's prey (which is probably why it always comes for 'dat ass' of yours, seeing as it knows it can eviscerate you in a heartbeat).
As for the figure, the Deathclaw has 5 digits on each claw, four fingers and a thumb, which is incredibly rare for animals besides the primates to have, not only that, they seem comfortable in transitioning from Quadraped stance to a full fledge bipedal-stance, which most animals are capable of doing so, and very few animals can remain bipedal like a human can, showing perhaps human genetic manipulation is the cause of Deathclaws incredible intelligence, mutation within the hands, and capability of being perfectly bipedal.
-Avian is more of a guess, but hear me out. Deathclaws, despite their thick, tough hides and great size, seem to easily outrun just about anything in the wasteland. Bipedal helps with endurance, but perhaps their bones, being made of an unknown strong material, can also be hollowed and thus allowed Deathclaws amazing speed, what being lighter than others. Their bones can be genetically altered to be strong, yet at the same time, light as well.
-Crocodile/Alligator genetics could also be within the Deathclaw, though I can only see this in Fallout 4, what with the thicker, bone-like plating upon it's upper back and traveling down to it's tail, which seems flat and broader than before, could also be the reason for their heighten aggression.
For the very infamous foot-long claws, I'm not quite sure what's allowing them to slice through Power Armor with such ease. One theory that I think could be the reason is their claws are all mono molecular-edged, allowing them to slice through pretty much any material with ease, especially if the bones within the claw are made of a tough, hardy material. This could also explain why they would sharpen their claws...with their own claws, and this could mean the growth rate of the claws are quite high, much like rodent's teeth.
Another, simpler theory is they're just bulked up enough to 'punch' through the armor, like that of a bear slamming their claws on their prey, and their claws are incredibly dense to the point they can't shatter from such an impact, though this could mean their bone structure is incredibly dense, and it would be harder to explain how they're able to run faster than a human with such a dense skeleton structure.
TL;DR : Deathclaws could possibly not only be Jackson Chameleons, but rather a hybrid of genetics, one of them being human, and with claws capable of slicing through most material. A near-perfect experiment of nightmare fuel.
Kilgore Trout
Gyro Captain
So far the China theory is my favorite.
GarouxBloodline
Watchdog of the Wastes
Never too late. 
Thanks for joining us. <3
Remember, to anyone reading, that we only have a few days left. We have a pretty good number of competitors now, and are ready to start announcing winners - so if anyone else wants their chance at winning some prizes, make sure to speak up now!
Thanks for joining us. <3Remember, to anyone reading, that we only have a few days left. We have a pretty good number of competitors now, and are ready to start announcing winners - so if anyone else wants their chance at winning some prizes, make sure to speak up now!
GarouxBloodline
Watchdog of the Wastes
Competition has now concluded. I will be announcing the 6 winners come tomorrow.
Thank you to everyone that has joined in on the fun!
Thank you to everyone that has joined in on the fun!
Cool, really curious to find out if I am perhaps one of those six winners.