Sn1p3r187
Carolinian Shaolin Monk
I saw the Naked Gun last with my ol lady and dear god was it hilarious. God the reboot was actually funnier than the original, i stand on that.
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Wait ... they rebooted this
with Liam Fucking Neeson?
Why?
I am soooooooooooooooo ready for that goddamn asteroid.
PaxVenire
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If I had to wager a guess it's because Leslie Nielsen is dead. New movie was hilarious though
Iprovidelittlepianos
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I thought it was funny too but come on, it’s not funnier than the original. Funnier than the sequels, maybe.
Technically it’s not a reboot it’s a sequel
The original is a classic. And Liam Neeson belongs in a nursery home.
broneslav
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Darkman, 1990. My favourite.
How many actors do you know who starred in both Star Wars and Batman movies?
How many actors do you know who starred in both Star Wars and Batman movies?
Darkman is so underrated, it's sad. Sam Raimi at his best. I rented that movie probably a hundred times when I was a kid.
Sn1p3r187
Carolinian Shaolin Monk
Sequel my bad. And yeah i stand on that opinion
Tenebris
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picth black 2000, i have seen the prequel games reviews so i was interested in this dark sci fi universe, and i was not disappointed, it is a really good movie
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Pitch Black is awesome. There's another Riddick film that is quite enjoyable, but I would have to stop taking a shit and look at my dvd collection to tell you the exact title and I really need to get rid of this turd.
Tenebris
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the chronicles of riddick 2004
No, I was talking about 'Riddick'. I saw the one you mentioned as well, but thought it was kind of meh.
Tenebris
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yeah, what a world building, we jumped from horror and dark sci fi with a skilled criminal into the chosen one with space magic with space ghosts and retcons
riddick was out of place in this one
I watched Alien Romulus and the first two episodes of Alien Earth yesterday and now I am trying to write down my thoughts about either.
Warning, this includes some spoilers for both the movie and the series. I won't spoil the entire plotlines but reading my article will give away some of the story of both.
I found Alien Romulus a bit disappointing. It lacked any of the impact Alien and Aliens had. In many ways it was a repeat of Alien in many ways, doing barely anything new with the Alien material.
The plot was very weak and the focus on late teens/young adults also didn't help.
A good question another person asked on IMDB's reviews is where did these kids get the technology from such as some kind of ore transport spacecraft. Wouldn't these be company controlled so that someone could not take these on an unscheduled flight like what happened in the movie.
And so there are several other plotholes that just don't make sense.
All and all I consider Alien Romulus an average movie that brings in nothing new to the established Alien franchise and I am not even sure if diehard Alien fans should watch it
Oh before I forget, I honestly couldn't care about any of the characters as they lacked what the Nostromo crew and the Colonial Marines had that makes you become involved in them.
How to start on Alien Earth.
First of all the writing feels its on par with the writing of Alien Romulus. If someone told me that it was by the same team of writers and perhaps producers I wouldn't bat an eye as it feels from the same school of thought.
Both include for example indentured worker contracts.
The plotline is a little more original this time though it still borrows heavily from the first Alien movie.
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Like some other series the storyline is a bit of a 'slow burn', there is a lot of exposition and filler to pad up the story. Some of it could perhaps done with cutting, reducing it to the essentials.
The story takes in time to introduce the titular creature which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on taste. It engages in lot more slaughter behavior than the aliens we saw before in the movies who always were more capturing and abducting people to bring them back to its nest.
Alien was always said to be a slaughter movie set in space so I guess the franchise has become full circle with the alien now killing and tearing apart people.
So what do I think about Alien Earth.
Well I don't find it as good as Alien and Aliens, maybe because of the padding and the mentioned subplot which could have been the theme for an original sci fi series.
But the weird thing is that I don't feel as protective about the Alien franchise as I am about Fallout for example, having less problems with changes to the lore then I would do with Star Trek which I am mightily disappointed since Kurtzman's Secret Hideout started to produce new shows for it.
Maybe it is because there is not much canon developed for the Alien franchise.
I know there were comics and books (I read most of the comics), but I never saw them as canon, though I admit being disappointed by some of the Alien comics produced by Marvel with some of the liberties they took.
I find myself in a role I had never expected myself to be in, totally not objecting against some of the elements that are now introduced into the franchise, though I have to admit that I am not sold on
I guess the most object-able thing in the previous movies was that in Alien Covenant it was revealed that
What bothers me most is that it is such a slow story so far. There were several times that I decided to do something else while I kept the episode I was watching running on the background as it could not hold my attention.
We really don't learn anything new about the alien creature so in that regard the series does not innovate it. Unless the series surprises us with new details in upcoming episodes the creature is pretty much as we have seen before and dare I say it possibly one of the least interesting elements in the story.
I'll continue to watch the series but I hope I hope the writers do something to shake up the storyline, taking us into directions we hadn't seen coming as otherwise I would recommend this series only to die hard Alien fans who absolutely want any kind of new material and don't care that most of it has been done before and perhaps in much more interesting ways.
Warning, this includes some spoilers for both the movie and the series. I won't spoil the entire plotlines but reading my article will give away some of the story of both.
I found Alien Romulus a bit disappointing. It lacked any of the impact Alien and Aliens had. In many ways it was a repeat of Alien in many ways, doing barely anything new with the Alien material.
The plot was very weak and the focus on late teens/young adults also didn't help.
A good question another person asked on IMDB's reviews is where did these kids get the technology from such as some kind of ore transport spacecraft. Wouldn't these be company controlled so that someone could not take these on an unscheduled flight like what happened in the movie.
And so there are several other plotholes that just don't make sense.
All and all I consider Alien Romulus an average movie that brings in nothing new to the established Alien franchise and I am not even sure if diehard Alien fans should watch it
Oh before I forget, I honestly couldn't care about any of the characters as they lacked what the Nostromo crew and the Colonial Marines had that makes you become involved in them.
How to start on Alien Earth.
First of all the writing feels its on par with the writing of Alien Romulus. If someone told me that it was by the same team of writers and perhaps producers I wouldn't bat an eye as it feels from the same school of thought.
Both include for example indentured worker contracts.
The plotline is a little more original this time though it still borrows heavily from the first Alien movie.
The subplot revolves around androids, cyborgs, and 'hybrids' which are human minds uploaded into android bodies
Like some other series the storyline is a bit of a 'slow burn', there is a lot of exposition and filler to pad up the story. Some of it could perhaps done with cutting, reducing it to the essentials.
The story takes in time to introduce the titular creature which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on taste. It engages in lot more slaughter behavior than the aliens we saw before in the movies who always were more capturing and abducting people to bring them back to its nest.
Alien was always said to be a slaughter movie set in space so I guess the franchise has become full circle with the alien now killing and tearing apart people.
Some new creatures are also introduced who have their own disturbing characteristics
So what do I think about Alien Earth.
Well I don't find it as good as Alien and Aliens, maybe because of the padding and the mentioned subplot which could have been the theme for an original sci fi series.
Though I understand that the show Caprica, the BSG prequel also handled the same themes of uploading
Maybe it is because there is not much canon developed for the Alien franchise.
I know there were comics and books (I read most of the comics), but I never saw them as canon, though I admit being disappointed by some of the Alien comics produced by Marvel with some of the liberties they took.
I find myself in a role I had never expected myself to be in, totally not objecting against some of the elements that are now introduced into the franchise, though I have to admit that I am not sold on
the children downloaded into android bodies. I don't know why this doesn't work for me
I guess the most object-able thing in the previous movies was that in Alien Covenant it was revealed that
that the android David had created the Alien creature, which I dislike as I always preferred that it was a creation of the Space Jockeys before they were re-imagined as the Engineers.
What bothers me most is that it is such a slow story so far. There were several times that I decided to do something else while I kept the episode I was watching running on the background as it could not hold my attention.
We really don't learn anything new about the alien creature so in that regard the series does not innovate it. Unless the series surprises us with new details in upcoming episodes the creature is pretty much as we have seen before and dare I say it possibly one of the least interesting elements in the story.
I'll continue to watch the series but I hope I hope the writers do something to shake up the storyline, taking us into directions we hadn't seen coming as otherwise I would recommend this series only to die hard Alien fans who absolutely want any kind of new material and don't care that most of it has been done before and perhaps in much more interesting ways.
Iprovidelittlepianos
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I agree with everything else you said but in the original movie the Alien only abducts one person (Dallas? The captain, I forget his name) to bring back to the “nest” (or rather, to start a new nest). Also, it’s a deleted scene.
I know the scene you are talking about.
It also kidnapped Brett and brought him to its nest where he would egg morph into a new Alien egg. Eggmorphing was an idea that sadly got cut and which I find a lot more interesting than the aliens having a queen. It would make each alien capable of creating new eggs, increasing the threat if even one alien made it to Earth.
Edit: I forgot that it killed Parker and Lambert, so I am a bit wrong about mentioning earlier that the creature always seemed to capture its prey to bring these back to its nest. My bad.
But there are eggs on the crashed ship in Alien Earth. Its weird that the single alien would not capture at least some of the humans from the tower building or the rescue workers and bring these to the eggs to infect them with alien 'seeds'.
Iprovidelittlepianos
Vault Senior Citizen
What I particularly like about eggmorphing is that it brings the alien lifecycle full circle, making aliens a lifeform with two (arguably three if we count the egg) distinct phases. With the queen, all other aliens are effectively reproductive dead ends, and that makes them a little too close to colony-based insects on Earth for my liking. Besides, I think the eggmorphing works better on a thematic level. The facehugger uses a life form as a womb for the alien, then the alien uses a life form as a womb for the facehugger. Their entire reproductive cycle requires raping other life forms to work. It’s like poetry, it rhymes.
Tenebris
Still Mildly Glowing
reproduction and sexual violation are very universal
I felt the eggmorphing would make the alien that much more the 'other'. It has a reproduction cycle that has no Earth analog.
When the alien queen was introduced it make the concept too much like angry colony creatures.
When the alien queen was introduced it make the concept too much like angry colony creatures.
Iprovidelittlepianos
Vault Senior Citizen
Yes but parasitic methods of reproduction are far less common. Aliens don’t rape females of their own species, they rape pretty much anything else.