There is still a little bit hope for Fallout 4... right?

I'm placing my bets now.

Fallout 4 will arrive within 5-6 years and will be likely better than Fallout 3 but significantly worse than Fallout:New Vegas.

Whether it's deemed as better than Skyrim, that's anybody's guess.
 
AlphaPromethean said:
I'm placing my bets now.

Fallout 4 will arrive within 5-6 years and will be likely better than Fallout 3 but significantly worse than Fallout:New Vegas.

Whether it's deemed as better than Skyrim, that's anybody's guess.
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That depends on better in what way. I'd say there's a chance that the writing, story, and the setting will be better than in Fallout 3, but that's not certain. There will be better, or at the very least, less rushed and confused writing than in Skyrim. Dialogue will probably be better, but going more for funny and wacky rather than serious.

As for good RPG mechanics and actual RPG gameplay? Don't count on it. I think it's safe to say that in Fallout 4 SPECIAL won't matter at all (or it will be outright removed and replaced with some abortion), there will be perk respec (this I'm almost certain of), a huge amount of skills will be cut and the remaining ones won't matter at all, traits removed, minimal amount of choices and no real consequences, etc. I also consider it a possibility that they'll go for the CoD style health, the one where you get the red vision which disappears in a few seconds.
 
The only chance it has [in my book], is if it ships with functional, and un-crippled modding tools.

I can't *know* this ~of course, but I honestly [and truly] doubt whether better writing, good RPG mechanics and actual RPG gameplay really serve their purposes. Their market is not for a good RPG, their market is for a digital larp in an RPG setting... The visualization of the assumed experience of being in that setting. That has nothing to do with roleplaying, and has a hell of a lot more in common with WestWorld IMO.


[Above] is a fan remake of the original.

Good RPG mechanics and actual RPG gameplay would seem a hindrance, no?
 
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I can only hope they don't do a huge U-turn during the development of the game like they did with Fallout 3 (eg. set the game few decades after the Great War and change the date to 2277 right after most of the world has been made)

At least, I think that's what happened. Parts of the game seem to imply that Fallout 3 was originally supposed to be some sort of prequel.
 
I believe that have mentioned that they won't do a prequel; besides, that risks opening quite a can of worms if they weren't careful.
[Do you think they'd be that careful?]
 
Fallout 4 "Since winning the second Battle of Hoover Dam, the NCR has almost completely expanded across North America. What was first an expansion to pacify threats such as the Caesar's Legion has now turned into a occupation force that oppresses the people of the Wasteland. Only the heroic Brotherhood of Steel, re united with their East Coast chapter after their defeat at the West Coast is able to resist the NCR and return freedom to NCR ruled settlements."

Fifteen years ago this could still be considered a very stupid joke.
 
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Fallout 4 "Since winning the second Battle of Hoover Dam, the NCR has almost completely expanded across North America. What was first an expansion to pacify threats such as the Caesar's Legion has now turned into a occupation force that oppresses the people of the Wasteland. Only the heroic Brotherhood of Steel, re united with their East Coast chapter after their defeat at the West Coast is able to resist the NCR and return freedom to NCR ruled settlements."

Fifteen years ago this could still be considered a very stupid joke.
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It still is, but only because that scenario implies that there will be a canon ending to Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
Unfortunately, it is more likely that under BGS there will be no continuity whatsoever, and as long as they have the franchise they won't allow Obsidian to have it either. So even if Obsidian is allowed to do another Fallout game, they will be forced to avoid setting a canon ending to NV, because Bethesda is too afraid that Bethestards will whine how "this isn't what I did in the game!". Quite sad, really.
 
Probably the best case scenario is that there will not be any migrating factions in Fallout 4 anymore. As in like, East Coast New California Republic.

I'm thinking Fallout 4 will be about synths for most part which might not really sound appealing to some, but I'd rather have that than NCR on East Coast. I don't know. I'm just being optimistic.

So even if Obsidian is allowed to do another Fallout game, they will be forced to avoid setting a canon ending to NV, because Bethesda is too afraid that Bethestards will whine how "this isn't what I did in the game!". Quite sad, really.
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Reminds me of how none of the endings in Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall were canon. Instead, it was established in Morrowind or Oblivion that what happened was more like a combination of all the endings, though this was due to some space-time meddling or somesuch.
 
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I have a strong feeling that Obsidian will make another game in the future, but I doubt it's going to be a sequel to New Vegas.
 
fallout 4 shouldn't learn things from skyrim or mass effect, but from fallout 1&2.
 
Silly mef. Fallout 1 and 2 are some old games no one remembers. Let's focus for the new, shiny and made for people with a short attention span! Skyrim is what a pure RPG gameplay is now and Mass Effect is what good writing is all about! Didn't you know? Trying to bring an actual RPG with quality writing into mainstream gaming... pshh. Pshh, I tell you.

Seriously though, be grateful Microsoft marketing department fucked up Fable 3 and the goddamn trainwreck got the reception it deserved. I shudder to think what 'game design wisdom' they'd try to squeeze out of this one.
 
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It was all just some fan speculation and probably fan wank but on RPGCodex someone was talking about how Fallout 4 would have multiplayer or co-op mode and the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh jeez no!"
I think the poster got it from a game site that was having one of those "What we want to see in said said game" articles but whenever I hear of those I can not help but think how these people have missed the mark.

If they so much want to play a multiplayer game in a post apocalyptic setting, or a survival game, there are plenty of products that should satisfy that demand.
Turning Fallout into some kind of 'lulzy' MP game in which gamers are jerking of against each other would make the current zombie incarnation such an unholy beast that it needs to be slain immediately.
 
I highly doubt it, but there's a mod allowing multiplayer in fallout 3, so there's always a possibility.
 
There will be no multiplayer in Fallout 4. Look at how TESO turned out, ZeniMax won't risk something like that again. If they do, then I'm pretty sure they're gonna get real close to going bankrupt. Also, the Fallout 4 online rumors came from a 4chan post, allegadely... on top of that it was another "my dad knows a PR guy at Bethpizda", a clear mark of bullshit.
 
Ah I knew it! The bullshit factor on this article was already high when I found it on RPGCodex but I had no idea where it came from.
What is the state of TESO by the way? I don't really follow that game.
 
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What is the state of TESO by the way? I don't really follow that game.
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Last I checked the console versions were nowhere on the horizon, which is what TESO would need to maybe not be the biggest failure in the history of ZeniMax. Not to mention, it didn't even get good scores by the big review sites.
 
Good, that reduces the chance for a Fallout MMO, but I would feel more comfortable if we got a public announcement that Bethesda will never consider a Fallout Online game.

As for Fallout 4, I think the best continuation would be through its fans unless through some miracle Obsidian are either hired to do another Fallout for Bethesda (unlikely after how Beth screwed them with that meta critic deal) or even get control of the franchise.

Still I am wondering, even as a Fallout fan, should the series go on forever? (not that I want FNV to be the last instalment, just thinking many years from now)
 
Good question, good question...

I think the blueprint of Fallout should keep existing, everything that made Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 should be used for more RPG, no matter if they are called Fallout or are suspiciously similar substitute. (which Wasteland is not and probably shouldn't be)
 
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