Prone Squanderer
A bit of a Sillius Soddus.
I've never played the Borderlands games, though I've seen various clips of the first one. It doesn't interest me currently but you never know, I might pick it up one day.
Thoughts on the Borderlands franchise?
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I've never played the Borderlands games, though I've seen various clips of the first one. It doesn't interest me currently but you never know, I might pick it up one day.
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Gaige is pretty broken, really. While the Anarchy and such have insane effects, for the most part it's gimmicks, the robot doesn't do shit and most skills are pointless. Not that fun to play.
My thoughts. First of all, you must understand I am not into games like Diablo which Borderlands bases some of its game mechanics on (don't know what I should call this genre). I prefer my FPS games to be more like Half Life, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, and Jedi Knight.
I will write down first what I did like about Borderlands 1. I liked the free reign which was big enough (sometimes a little to big) to just go around and explore between assignment and the various opportunities to improve XP and get more stuff to sell.
I also like the graphic style in general, the scenery such as the towns, abandoned factories, military bases, a lot of the characters designs including the Atlas/Hyperion soldiers, the creatures, the aliens and so on. The raiders on the other hand were sometimes so ridiculously overdone but I understand that is part of what they should represent; psychopathic anarchists.
My favorite part of the game is when the player finally confronted Atlas and then went to the vault.
In general I also liked the more "story" driven DLCs (if you can really call it story driven, it is not really like the FNV DLCs) such as the zombie themed one (the Scooby Doo parody was rather amusing). General Knox and the Claptrap one offer more of Borderlands general content but sometimes felt that they dragged on to much.
The gameplay in general works but as I played alone I did not have any team experience and Borderlands is really meant be played with more people.
I also did not try out all of the characters during my sessions.
But the humor... the humor is sometimes very hit and miss for me. Either being sometimes very ridiculous or playing on tropes and memes which can make it very dated for people who may play it years after the release.
I get it, this is part of the Borderlands atmosphere but it was rather lost on me.
There is also very little interactivity with the NPCs in the game, Markus, Dr Zed, and Scooter do their lines and try to do quips, but I never really felt any kind of attachment to these characters and to be honest I found claptrap to be really annoying sometimes.
The only character I found somewhat amusing was the stereotypical evil Hyperion department leader and I wish he had featured more prominent in Borderlands 2 as I find Handsome Jack a rather obnoxious asshole.
As for the regular NPCs, they are just background, occasionally asking me if I have seen their gun when I pass them by.
Borderlands 2. Well it is more of Borderlands 1.
It refines and improves on elements from Borderlands 1 and I am glad to see there is a bit more storyline now, but it raises the ridiculous and sometimes irritating humor to eleven.
Sure, some parts are amusing and will get a smile or a grin from me but never really a loud out laugh.
As I mentioned before I find Handsome Jack an overhyped antagonist who constantly keeps spouting lines on how powerful and evil he is and how full he is of himself.
I know, that is his character and players are suppose to like him for it or hate him, but I just wanted him to go away and bother someone else.
Many of the characters seem to have been made as obnoxious or irritating as possible in an effort to make them seem humorous such as the little girl.
And the scientist seems to have lost even more screws.
I didn't really get far in this game, at some point I really did not feel like continuing as I found the main quest of getting even with Handsome Jack not really that interesting.
I also did not like that I had to spend real money on getting keys or gems to unlock special weapon cases.
And why did the designers cut out the medical kits/health boosters from the first game. To encourage even more to work together.
It has been a while since I played this so i don't recall everything clearly.
I never felt like playing Borderlands Pre-Sequel or Tales from the Borderlands.
I will write down first what I did like about Borderlands 1. I liked the free reign which was big enough (sometimes a little to big) to just go around and explore between assignment and the various opportunities to improve XP and get more stuff to sell.
I also like the graphic style in general, the scenery such as the towns, abandoned factories, military bases, a lot of the characters designs including the Atlas/Hyperion soldiers, the creatures, the aliens and so on. The raiders on the other hand were sometimes so ridiculously overdone but I understand that is part of what they should represent; psychopathic anarchists.
My favorite part of the game is when the player finally confronted Atlas and then went to the vault.
In general I also liked the more "story" driven DLCs (if you can really call it story driven, it is not really like the FNV DLCs) such as the zombie themed one (the Scooby Doo parody was rather amusing). General Knox and the Claptrap one offer more of Borderlands general content but sometimes felt that they dragged on to much.
The gameplay in general works but as I played alone I did not have any team experience and Borderlands is really meant be played with more people.
I also did not try out all of the characters during my sessions.
But the humor... the humor is sometimes very hit and miss for me. Either being sometimes very ridiculous or playing on tropes and memes which can make it very dated for people who may play it years after the release.
I get it, this is part of the Borderlands atmosphere but it was rather lost on me.
There is also very little interactivity with the NPCs in the game, Markus, Dr Zed, and Scooter do their lines and try to do quips, but I never really felt any kind of attachment to these characters and to be honest I found claptrap to be really annoying sometimes.
The only character I found somewhat amusing was the stereotypical evil Hyperion department leader and I wish he had featured more prominent in Borderlands 2 as I find Handsome Jack a rather obnoxious asshole.
As for the regular NPCs, they are just background, occasionally asking me if I have seen their gun when I pass them by.
Borderlands 2. Well it is more of Borderlands 1.
It refines and improves on elements from Borderlands 1 and I am glad to see there is a bit more storyline now, but it raises the ridiculous and sometimes irritating humor to eleven.
Sure, some parts are amusing and will get a smile or a grin from me but never really a loud out laugh.
As I mentioned before I find Handsome Jack an overhyped antagonist who constantly keeps spouting lines on how powerful and evil he is and how full he is of himself.
I know, that is his character and players are suppose to like him for it or hate him, but I just wanted him to go away and bother someone else.
Many of the characters seem to have been made as obnoxious or irritating as possible in an effort to make them seem humorous such as the little girl.
And the scientist seems to have lost even more screws.
I didn't really get far in this game, at some point I really did not feel like continuing as I found the main quest of getting even with Handsome Jack not really that interesting.
I also did not like that I had to spend real money on getting keys or gems to unlock special weapon cases.
And why did the designers cut out the medical kits/health boosters from the first game. To encourage even more to work together.
It has been a while since I played this so i don't recall everything clearly.
I never felt like playing Borderlands Pre-Sequel or Tales from the Borderlands.
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Actually, the golden keys are one of the currencies (like Eridium, Seraph Crystals and such) that is unlocked by exchanging codes shared in promotions, events, etcetera. Or one can just cheat engine them in. It's only guaranteed Purple/Eridian gear, anyway.
ThatZenoGuy
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Oh god, fuck those golden keys.
I preordered the game, thinking that such things would be only for the preorder, handful of days into the release and there's fucking keys everywhere, people hacking them in, etc.
Fuck I am annoyed I bought that game.
I preordered the game, thinking that such things would be only for the preorder, handful of days into the release and there's fucking keys everywhere, people hacking them in, etc.
Fuck I am annoyed I bought that game.
As I said before, it has been a while since I played this game so I don't recall everything about it such as the gold keys.
If I recall correctly, the purple/Eridian gear is the most powerful and rare right? Than I find it frustrating how rare the keys are when you want to play the game without cheating.
If I recall correctly, the purple/Eridian gear is the most powerful and rare right? Than I find it frustrating how rare the keys are when you want to play the game without cheating.
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Dunno, I've played 220 hours and the keys were the least of my problems. While it's cool that they are directly purple (which is the "best" only after Legendaries and Uniques), the infamous level scaling makes them a terrible investment longterm.
It is a good boostie if you never farm, at all, and see that you are underpowered for your state on the questline.
And of course, they can be just as shit or worse than any other gear you can get out of the box.
Really, I've used like ten keys in all this time.
There are more pressing matters. Like how all the good qualities of the BL1 drop system (weapons lasting a lot longer, more common special ones, generation diversity, obvious loot spots) were left behind and made even worse for the sequel. Like, it doesn't even nearly get close to the, while faint, sense of wonder I had with the first one when it comes to drops.
It is a good boostie if you never farm, at all, and see that you are underpowered for your state on the questline.
And of course, they can be just as shit or worse than any other gear you can get out of the box.
Really, I've used like ten keys in all this time.
There are more pressing matters. Like how all the good qualities of the BL1 drop system (weapons lasting a lot longer, more common special ones, generation diversity, obvious loot spots) were left behind and made even worse for the sequel. Like, it doesn't even nearly get close to the, while faint, sense of wonder I had with the first one when it comes to drops.
ThatZenoGuy
Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism
I remember playing Borderlands 2 and over-grinding my character, grinding chests and legendary creatures and shit.
IIRC I got two legendaries on my first playthrough.
A 'rabbit' rocket launcher which skips or something when you reload it (Tediore).
And a Flak shotgun with like 2 feet of range.
Both were 'useless' in terms of damage around 3 levels past them...
Second playthrough, I got to the robot Hyperion Loaders part of the game, then ragequit.
Yeah, fuck that, enemies which need literally 400 rounds each to kill?
Enemies which drain your Purple shields in 3 hits, and 1 hit your HP?
Fuck that.
IIRC I got two legendaries on my first playthrough.
A 'rabbit' rocket launcher which skips or something when you reload it (Tediore).
And a Flak shotgun with like 2 feet of range.
Both were 'useless' in terms of damage around 3 levels past them...
Second playthrough, I got to the robot Hyperion Loaders part of the game, then ragequit.
Yeah, fuck that, enemies which need literally 400 rounds each to kill?
Enemies which drain your Purple shields in 3 hits, and 1 hit your HP?
Fuck that.
Norzan
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I find the first game decent and the second game good. The second game was fun until it introduced Ultimate Vault Hunter mode. Then enemies became bullet sponges who regen constantly, then came the OP levels which are even worse.
I pretty much stopped playing the second game after the Tiny Tina DLC. Everything after was just stupid and felt that Gearbox was just trying to milk as much as money as possible.
The Pre-Sequel was alright, nothing to write home about.
I pretty much stopped playing the second game after the Tiny Tina DLC. Everything after was just stupid and felt that Gearbox was just trying to milk as much as money as possible.
The Pre-Sequel was alright, nothing to write home about.
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Tbf they strongly advice to use Critical attacks, which they have in abunance and with actual effect beyond more damage (can blow up all limbs and pop eye-laser). That or the Corrosive element, or both in addition. Weapons with spread, like the Lascaux (unique smg that respawns each time you go to the Firehawk place, so no biggie) or other shotguns, that'll make easier to pop their limbs off.
Besides, there are also the EXP variant of them that can be tricked into blowing up their buddies too.
It indeed is quite bollocks, but there is to mind that this is that kind of game. Same level is normally fair, one or even two over you quite a cheesy challenge, and over that it's a no-brainer, they WILL one-shot bitches. This series has a weird scaling thing going on where things like damage absorption and melee damage are tied to level and shit.
ThatZenoGuy
Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism
You know what, that would have been LOVELY, if I had a powerful corrosive gun.
How amusing that I am not playing as the elemental character Siren, I'm the damned engineer, his whole playstyle is 'more dakka, and turrets'. Not elemental weapons.
Its almost as if the developers are fucking useless at balancing anything.
Also, good fucking luck finding a purple corrosive AR.
I spent over 6k Eridium at the slot machines. Not a single one.