yes Lexx, but i don't think DDD was the first to say that here.
Todd on FO3:'Uh... it's currently... full steam ahead.'
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Actually, I believe I was.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
It sounds like it's derived from that "Beauty is only skin-deep, but ugly goes straight to the bone" saying.
Anyway, listen to the rest of the interview, he's very lucid and articulate when it comes to explaining the great virtue of consoles (I had no idea what a disservice I've been doing to myself by missing out on so much innovashun) and his great dissappintment with PC gaming as a market. Listen to him in his own words.
Really the only part where he flounders is on the FO3 questions, which I don't know how much you can read into it except that he either has nothing to say or he's making shit up. Regardless it doesn't inspire much confidence.
Anyway, listen to the rest of the interview, he's very lucid and articulate when it comes to explaining the great virtue of consoles (I had no idea what a disservice I've been doing to myself by missing out on so much innovashun) and his great dissappintment with PC gaming as a market. Listen to him in his own words.
Really the only part where he flounders is on the FO3 questions, which I don't know how much you can read into it except that he either has nothing to say or he's making shit up. Regardless it doesn't inspire much confidence.
Cimmerian Nights said:
Those aren't really his words, those are someone else's that he regurgitated from so much practice in hyping TES. People tend to be particularly inarticulate when they don't know what they're talking about, yet as we all know, Todd knows hype fairly well.
That he can't even give simple answers to simple fucking questions says a lot to me, as every developer itches to have tidbits to entice people's interest, and that Todd fails to be able to think of anything noteworthy that he's doing says a lot. It says enough, since neither Todd nor Pete care to be forthright in any form, would have been saying promises and hype already if it were a TES title, and neither seem to be able to speak with any intelligence or coherency about the subject unless it's to compare it to Oblivion and suck themselves off about how "good" Oblivion was to the console retards and those who haven't been around the CRPG genre at all, yet enjoy this "CRPG" because it's the only thing to be released for the X-Box and is called a CRPG despite the gameplay not being anything close.
Kuni Hoyung
First time out of the vault
It kinda made me feel as though F3 has been put on the way-in-the-back-behind-the-dirty-pans burner. "um... its been about two years and uh... um.. we haven't done jack shit. We just stare at the teaser ... poster all day jerking it. That's um... it, basically."
Come on, Mr. Howard. Let's get it done. It's been long enough.
Come on, Mr. Howard. Let's get it done. It's been long enough.
I would rather them spend 5 years working on the game and get it right than just a rushed POS.
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Jeez. I'm surprised Todd didn't hold the interviewer at gunpoint and escape out the back door. Way to sound like you have no idea what's going on in your own project, Howie.
BRKL
First time out of the vault
I'm not looking for Bethesda ass-kissing. I'm just looking for news about FO3 and all the other post-apocalyptic projects around (who knows, maybe one will get finished at some point). The problem for me is that the outright hostility towards Bethesda in the newsposts only helps to hide what precious little information there is. Mocking Bethesda and taking any small comment from them in the worst possible way here on the forum doesn't bother me one bit. This is NMA after all 
Bethesda's PR reps' job is not to give you all information there is about the development of Fallout 3. Bethesda's company policy seems to be to keep things under wraps until far into development. We didn't hear anything of Oblivion until it was 2-3 years into development. They couldn't have begun full-on development of FO3 until late last year or early this year, so I wouldn't worry about lack of information yet. Give it a year or two.
Bethesda's PR reps' job is not to give you all information there is about the development of Fallout 3. Bethesda's company policy seems to be to keep things under wraps until far into development. We didn't hear anything of Oblivion until it was 2-3 years into development. They couldn't have begun full-on development of FO3 until late last year or early this year, so I wouldn't worry about lack of information yet. Give it a year or two.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
The first minor anouncememnts about the game were schedulled for december 2006, let's see if they didn't changed their opinion on that.
BRKL said:
We're simply giving a critique of how they are treating the development of this game, which I think I illuminated Fallout and failed franchises enough in other threads in this forum enough.
If you want what amounts to press kits simply reposted, then go to GameBanshee, where they will undoubtedly give you your fill of mindless ass-sucking, and even invent enough other material to keep you happily reading their site. Never a negative word, even when they got a bitter shot in the mouth by Chuck, and I'm sure you'll be very happy there with similar, like-minded cattle.
So the mocking about how much Todd can speak about so little obfuscates how much the attention whore can speak so much about so little. You're going to have to explain that brand of "logic".
Okay, genius, then explain what we'd be reporting about this interview besides the craptacular verbal "exchange" between the interviewer and Todd, since there wasn't a fucking thing of importance said.
That's kind of the point. We're getting tired about every time someone from Bethesda feels like their ass needs to be licked, they give an empty interview (or devote a load of nothing in other interviews to blather on about nothing about Fallout 3), just for hype and publicity, and don't say a damn thing. Or take forever to remove their foot from their mouth to say that they can't say anything about it, in a very incoherent and uninformed way. It's like listening to a software development manager go on about a product without knowing how it truly works. In other words, we've been tired of Feargus' and Herve's crap for years.
If we decided to omit anything explicitly unconnected to the production of Fallout 3, including suicidal remarks by developers that can be derived to mean that they have no clue how they're developing this game, then we wouldn't have posted ANY Fallout 3 news since the initial press release of Bethesda acquiring the license.
It was 2 years, according to their claims. Even then, they didn't spare the details, even if most of them proved to be lies.
And now supposedly that they're into the "doing stuff" phase...they're still in the "doing stuff" phase. As they have said they've been for some time. And still see reason for their ass to be licked or to blather on with useless shit as if it's supposed to be substance for an interview instead of "I can't say at this time.", which isn't too hard to say. If they didn't have a fucking thing to say, then they should have simply fucking said so.
Simple concept, no?
Then please try to understand it.
*sigh* If you're not going to bother paying attention to events, or even what they say, then I'm not even going to bother feigning patience for the stupid. At least Todd is aware of what he's supposedly been working on for that time, which would be about two years. Try to keep up, it's not as if the interview isn't there for you to read or listen to, and if the gripes on the forum aren't a problem for you, then what's your fucking problem with understanding the news?
"NMA being mean to Todd makes it hard to read the news articles."
Sounds utterly fucking stupid? I'd hope so, by now. Even moreso when your whining is made irrelevant by a particular point Ratty made:
In the first paragraph of the news item. So what's so fucking hard for you to figure out the information? Simply put, you're trolling, and you're done trolling now.
Or how about we ask for it now instead of the bullshit Todd and Pete have kept spewing since...oh, two years ago? It should be due, considering the rest of the shit Todd and Pete have said over two years of supposedly not saying anything about it, and it's now been two years. The REAL details are now due.
If you're going to be a whore, please do it elsewhere.
"The Todd
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MrBumble said:Well...Those are just scouts. Once Fallout 3 is released it's gonna be an invasion.
Well from the looks of things we wont have to worry about that anytime soon!
I totally forgot about F03 ...Im so looking forward to Afterfall though!
I have a strange feeling F03 wont be as cruel and ruthless as Afterfall
when it comes to mature content (sex,crime,drugs,children killing,etc) since Im sure it will be available for the consoles one day whenever it is released! No offense console gamers but some games are just meant for the loyal dedicated PC gamers! Im pretty sure hardcore PC gamers are the minority these days compared to all the SEXBOX,PSP,PS2 bullshit!Im sure the broader majority of the gaming audience is what Bethsoft is aiming for ...of course for more...moolla which may suck for F03!
Prove..me wrong BethSoft.....proooove meeee wroooong!
Commercial Radio
Commercial Radio
Cimmerian Nights:
I wasn't interested in hearing the interview in total until C-Night's contribution.
If Todd is Beth-soft's spokes model,
perhaps the world view that leaks out, when discussing console sales, verses declining PC platform market share,
would indicate on which trajectory Beth-soft's design vector aspires fulfillment.
Downloaded Escape Radio Episodes Three and Four to hear both parts of Todd H.'s interview.
Both episodes billed him as " Bethesda's Todd Howard (Executive Producer of ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION and the upcoming FALLOUT 3) ".
Both shows milked -- THE -- console focused action r-PG of this 3rd Millennium, and a highly anticipated -- acquired -- PC legacy sequel.
Another info-mercial, another flying of the Beth-soft corporate flag.
Transcriptions of modern American speech can evoke memories of Cheech and Chong dialogues. ""Dave's not here ... man ""
The comedy has more value then any actual, miscommunication.
If one wants to divine the future of computer gaming design at Beth-soft, read the entrails of the other interview.
If one wants to plot the spin of Escape Radio hear the hosts whine about the unfair persistent nature of the RISING UNDEAD zombie feast , and how a savvy Nex Gen power gamer can defeat this with multiple save cards.
Can I have chocolate milk with that ... brain? ?
If one wants to know what side Escape Radio's console may be buttered on, hear them dis the PS3. Sony's vapor ware is not the issue, but having a launch title sized at 22 Gig. is Tooo much, ""like, no game needs to be-eee that big .. "". No console is worth 6 or 9 hundred dollars, (but a HDTV is?) After bitch slapping technical innovation, the foundation of console l33t-ness, [ THAT IS NOT MICROSOFT'S], they mock their own argument - that bloated size promotes sloppy design and programming - by coyly ejaculating that "'"no one needs more than 640k"" .
Funny stuff.
The Todd Howard: Executive Producer of ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION and the upcoming FALLOUT 3 interviews,
another info-mercial, another flying of the Beth-soft corporate flag.
This conjugal audio visit between "mature gaming industry" commentators and an "industry innovator-" was better heard then read.
This public information transaction between consenting adults, both episodes, was worth streaming, to me. It's your time and bandwidth, so it's actually your call if you want to sample the slogans and jargon, the propaganda of 'Nex Gen'.
Understand this, Todd Howard sees no value, no future profit in the PC platform.
PC gamers do not buy enough games.
The QUALITY of PC titles is not considered.
The implied extortion of buying today's mediocre effort to fund a future possible 'better' product is not a Nex Gen topic.
Not seen, heard, or spoken in the collectivist utopia of La La Land.
Hey Joe, no lie, luv yoo long time ....
After the flaws in Oblivion became manifest. It's mediocre design and QA obvious. Over all quality, game mechanics quality, leveling and scaling quality, and Bozo AI are not seen, heard, or spoken of in Nex Gen love ins. Chant a lie long enough in our present political climate and the believers, the lovers will 'think' it true.
Third party activists declare: Patrick Stewart walks amongst us! Best-est rPG of the Third Millennium! Todd makes more money than yoooo, HE must BE smart!
Yah, the one that dies with the most toys, wins.
Redefining what a RPG is, to fit ones world view is one thing. An act of personal freedom.
Redefining what a RPG is to hide a half baked design is another. It is misrepresentation.
Disparate jargons of different schools of thought?
No, it is the syntax war of ball kicking propagandists.
It is a blatant campaign to maximize the hearts, the minds, the game press scores and the unit SALES of mediocre product.
The "Fallout'' fame had the power to attract sales from all spectrums of the market, all platforms.
Beth-soft appears to have abandoned a unified field theory for RPG's, a realistic universe of true character development and consequences,
that vision would attract the 'mature' PC market share.
And.
Self fulfilling prophecy.
Unit sales and shelf space go to the BIG SHINY , action satisfaction, demolition diablo, rail road-ed plot lines.
The shiny slam dunk of the action r-PG will be their design focus,
The shiny slam dunk of the action r-PG will be 'good enough' for who it's for....
Self fulfilling profit-cy.
...........
Once again, the safest anticipation,
the lowest common denominator of expectations will be if Beth-soft will include 'a game' in the box.
A game in which the role will not necessitate a miraculous 'act of faith' , a tedious mime, politically correct pantomime of hand waving gesticulations and pharmacologically induced trances to play.
No hair restoration, no second coming, just a game.
4too
Commercial Radio
Cimmerian Nights:
I wasn't interested in hearing the interview in total until C-Night's contribution.
If Todd is Beth-soft's spokes model,
perhaps the world view that leaks out, when discussing console sales, verses declining PC platform market share,
would indicate on which trajectory Beth-soft's design vector aspires fulfillment.
Downloaded Escape Radio Episodes Three and Four to hear both parts of Todd H.'s interview.
Both episodes billed him as " Bethesda's Todd Howard (Executive Producer of ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION and the upcoming FALLOUT 3) ".
Both shows milked -- THE -- console focused action r-PG of this 3rd Millennium, and a highly anticipated -- acquired -- PC legacy sequel.
Another info-mercial, another flying of the Beth-soft corporate flag.
Transcriptions of modern American speech can evoke memories of Cheech and Chong dialogues. ""Dave's not here ... man ""
The comedy has more value then any actual, miscommunication.
If one wants to divine the future of computer gaming design at Beth-soft, read the entrails of the other interview.
If one wants to plot the spin of Escape Radio hear the hosts whine about the unfair persistent nature of the RISING UNDEAD zombie feast , and how a savvy Nex Gen power gamer can defeat this with multiple save cards.
Can I have chocolate milk with that ... brain? ?
If one wants to know what side Escape Radio's console may be buttered on, hear them dis the PS3. Sony's vapor ware is not the issue, but having a launch title sized at 22 Gig. is Tooo much, ""like, no game needs to be-eee that big .. "". No console is worth 6 or 9 hundred dollars, (but a HDTV is?) After bitch slapping technical innovation, the foundation of console l33t-ness, [ THAT IS NOT MICROSOFT'S], they mock their own argument - that bloated size promotes sloppy design and programming - by coyly ejaculating that "'"no one needs more than 640k"" .
Funny stuff.
The Todd Howard: Executive Producer of ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION and the upcoming FALLOUT 3 interviews,
another info-mercial, another flying of the Beth-soft corporate flag.
This conjugal audio visit between "mature gaming industry" commentators and an "industry innovator-" was better heard then read.
This public information transaction between consenting adults, both episodes, was worth streaming, to me. It's your time and bandwidth, so it's actually your call if you want to sample the slogans and jargon, the propaganda of 'Nex Gen'.
Understand this, Todd Howard sees no value, no future profit in the PC platform.
PC gamers do not buy enough games.
The QUALITY of PC titles is not considered.
The implied extortion of buying today's mediocre effort to fund a future possible 'better' product is not a Nex Gen topic.
Not seen, heard, or spoken in the collectivist utopia of La La Land.
Hey Joe, no lie, luv yoo long time ....
After the flaws in Oblivion became manifest. It's mediocre design and QA obvious. Over all quality, game mechanics quality, leveling and scaling quality, and Bozo AI are not seen, heard, or spoken of in Nex Gen love ins. Chant a lie long enough in our present political climate and the believers, the lovers will 'think' it true.
Third party activists declare: Patrick Stewart walks amongst us! Best-est rPG of the Third Millennium! Todd makes more money than yoooo, HE must BE smart!
Yah, the one that dies with the most toys, wins.
Redefining what a RPG is, to fit ones world view is one thing. An act of personal freedom.
Redefining what a RPG is to hide a half baked design is another. It is misrepresentation.
Disparate jargons of different schools of thought?
No, it is the syntax war of ball kicking propagandists.
It is a blatant campaign to maximize the hearts, the minds, the game press scores and the unit SALES of mediocre product.
The "Fallout'' fame had the power to attract sales from all spectrums of the market, all platforms.
Beth-soft appears to have abandoned a unified field theory for RPG's, a realistic universe of true character development and consequences,
that vision would attract the 'mature' PC market share.
And.
Self fulfilling prophecy.
Unit sales and shelf space go to the BIG SHINY , action satisfaction, demolition diablo, rail road-ed plot lines.
The shiny slam dunk of the action r-PG will be their design focus,
The shiny slam dunk of the action r-PG will be 'good enough' for who it's for....
Self fulfilling profit-cy.
...........
Once again, the safest anticipation,
the lowest common denominator of expectations will be if Beth-soft will include 'a game' in the box.
A game in which the role will not necessitate a miraculous 'act of faith' , a tedious mime, politically correct pantomime of hand waving gesticulations and pharmacologically induced trances to play.
No hair restoration, no second coming, just a game.
4too
good show 4too, as always.
as for the console shit:
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i kinda expect the good ol' fanboys to use the standard russian rush wave tactic: a few of them will have a decent argument, but those will soon reveal to be totally clueless on other stuff, causing them to be cut down faster than they can say "Beth rocks!". the next wave of moronic fanboys will pick up on the argument, but will yet again fail in an endless amount of other areas and get cut down as well, only to be replaced by another wave of 'comrades'.
as for the console shit:
Cyanide & Happiness @ http://www.explosm.net/
i think it's ironic you just said that.DirtyDreamDesigner said:
i kinda expect the good ol' fanboys to use the standard russian rush wave tactic: a few of them will have a decent argument, but those will soon reveal to be totally clueless on other stuff, causing them to be cut down faster than they can say "Beth rocks!". the next wave of moronic fanboys will pick up on the argument, but will yet again fail in an endless amount of other areas and get cut down as well, only to be replaced by another wave of 'comrades'.
How about this than:
Bugs, mister Rico, billions of 'em.
Keep firing, you apes, do you want to live forever?!
Bugs, mister Rico, billions of 'em.
Keep firing, you apes, do you want to live forever?!
"Fanboys? Keep 'em coming."
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Re: Commercial Radio
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I found his unabashed abandonement of PC gaming more disconterting than the his FO3 mumblings. He's pretty non-chalant about it all, but why not, it fits into Bethesda mass-market cross-platform agenda. Sounds like their positioning themselves to be the McDonald's of gaming.4too said:
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