Top 10: Kick ass moments from a day with Fallout 3
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Mad Mantis
First time out of the vault
Oddly enough the top 10 moments they chose are all things we have already seen in the various previews. Is there really nothing else in the game to choose besides what we already know, or are these really the highlights?
I'm sure they've got some kind of NDA with BS.
mandrake776
Still Mildly Glowing
Everything we've seen is from the beginning of the game. This is from the beginning of the game.
mandrake776 said:
He's 7 hours in. That no longer qualifies as beginning.
mandrake776
Still Mildly Glowing
Based on what metric? Sure 7 hours into a Silent Hill game is generally past the end, but what about something like Disgaea? One could not unreasonably argue that almost the whole of the story of the game is the beginning, based on how much there is to do.Brother None said:
Based on what metric? Sure 7 hours into a Silent Hill game is generally past the end, but what about something like Disgaea? [/quote]mandrake776 said:
They've stated that the main quest takes about 20 hours to complete, now I'm not clear on what the person playing the game is doing, but even if he's just running around doing sidequests and grabbing stuff, it's still not the beginning since he's made some progress.
A game like Disgaea is different from a game like Fallout 3.
FO3 is quest based, you get goals and you accomplish them. Some quests get you closer to the conclusion faster but other still contribute to that progress.
Disgaea is grind-based, it's designed so that players can put a lot more time into the game. I'm playing Disgaea 3 right now and my characters are all around level 3000, having put almost a hundred hour into it.
I know I'm nowhere near done with the game though since it has no quests, only the fact that there are progressively stronger enemies that I need to kill.
on the metric of the reported playtime by Bethesda itself...mandrake776 said:
Texas Renegade
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Top 10---more like a fancied up preview.
Feral ghouls were in FO2--you encountered them in random encounters. They may have been called crazies or something like that, but they were automatically hostile. Scavengers were as well.
I think in #5 they aren't actually referring to the group, as much as the multiple solutions but anyway.
Feral ghouls were in FO2--you encountered them in random encounters. They may have been called crazies or something like that, but they were automatically hostile. Scavengers were as well.
I think in #5 they aren't actually referring to the group, as much as the multiple solutions but anyway.
Seymour the spore plant
Still Mildly Glowing
mandrake776 said:
Ah, but therein lies the problem: Fallout wasn't silly, at least not overtly so. This kind of addition Bethesda is making to the franchise can only be compared to some of the most blatant nonsense that made it to FO2, which is exactly what they claimed to be avoiding.
mandrake776 said:
Thanks, but even if they do release the CS, I'm plain hopeless when it comes to modding. Feel free to use it yourself if you'd like, though.
Anarchosyn said:
And I suppose your point would be that it's pretty far in the future for people to still be crazy about it? Not that it couldn't be explained as some loony tradition in a fairly insular society, but really, I was just throwing around an idea I think fits the setting better, don't expect me to staunchly defend it as something that should have been implemented exactly like that.
mandrake776
Still Mildly Glowing
First that emoticon is awful and it makes your post seem insufferably smarmy. Second, I thought the reported playtime of the game was somewhere above 100 hours?SuAside said:on the metric of the reported playtime by Bethesda itself...
The 50s aesthetic vision of the world makes everything seem quaint, and the radiation effects are definitely laughable. Just because it's dark humor doesn't make it less ridiculous.Seymour the spore plant said:
They're even less likely to release that software for the PS3.
Seymour the spore plant
Still Mildly Glowing
mandrake776 said:
Sure, but just because the setting draws from a lot of silly sources for flavour doesn't mean that anything goes. Granted, the Family is not on the same level of ludicrousness as, say, the AntAgonizer, but my point is that it still steers much closer to Fallout 2 (which had a lot more slapstick stuff to it) than the original. You could perhaps make a case that the hubologists were just as retarded or that Anna was a frickin' ghost, but there really isn't any parallel in the original for it.
Fallout 2 had a markedly different approach to the setting, taking itself far less seriously, and it seems to me that it was exactly that one which stuck with Bethesda despite the lip-service to the contrary.
mandrake776
Still Mildly Glowing
My point is that it's not ludicrous. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that people could convince themselves that they're vampires. If you think it's not possible you greatly underestimate the human ability to rationalize. It's not slapstick, and I only said they convinced themselves of something silly like fallout was, something cute or nice or important in the midst of all this nothing.
shihonage
Made in USSR
And others, cry.
mandrake776
Still Mildly Glowing
Video games are serious business. Just ask Seymour the talking spore plant or Keeng Ra-at.
thefalloutfan
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Well I'd call an industry making millions of money around the world a 'serious business'.
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
thefalloutfan said:
does that apply for sit coms, comics and such as well?
I think you totally missed a point here...
mandrake776
Still Mildly Glowing
I was, of course, referring to some people crying over minor not even inconsistencies in a series.thefalloutfan said:
shihonage
Made in USSR
mandrake776 said:
Haha. It wasn't about consistency.
When you create a game mechanic, you have to also coat it in the rules of the game world.
For instance, you have limbs. They can be crippled with gunshots. Right ? Let's review two potential approaches to this mechanics:
Approach 1:
Crippling a limb affects your stats. Using stim-paks will heal you, but your stats will remain reduced until you go to a Town Doctor who can fix your limb.
Approach 2:
Crippling a limb affects your stats. Using stim-paks will heal you, but your stats will remain reduced until you go near a radiation source which will heal your crippled limbs.
Oh and you can also see a doctor to do the radiation's job.
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Now the radiation is not only a complete joke, since you get to carry a nuke launcher and have explode nuclear cars. No... radiation now heals !
Talk about throwing out the entire irony of "duck and cover" out the door.