Trump wins

Kadscaner said:
I'm still dumbfounded at the fact that it's 2016 and there are still communists.
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To understand the continuing communist is to understand that:

1. People are stupid
2. Communist means whatever you want it to mean
3. People in China and Russia associate it with becoming superpowers. Human cost being ignored the same way the Wild West is celebrated in the USA.
4. Plenty of Leftist assholes don't actually give a shit about liberating the people but just want to be the totalitarians in charge.
 
I'm highly against totalitarians, in fact, my politics is pretty hard to explain.

I remain very liberal and kinda left leaning. I like to consider myself more socialist but in a more anarchy kind of a way. I realise I ask too much from humanity to be okay with one another, the election results kind of proved that to me.

I guess you could say my opinions are more akin to Orwell than anyone else, I find myself agreeing with a lot of what be says
 
Millim said:
I'm highly against totalitarians, in fact, my politics is pretty hard to explain.

I remain very liberal and kinda left leaning. I like to consider myself more socialist but in a more anarchy kind of a way. I realise I ask too much from humanity to be okay with one another, the election results kind of proved that to me.

I guess you could say my opinions are more akin to Orwell than anyone else, I find myself agreeing with a lot of what be says
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No, the whole idea of leftists being against totalitarianism is how it's supposed to work. However, as people suck (why I believe in anarchic law), the fact the world didn't exist like they wanted to led to the 2nd worst crimes of the 20th century and even that's up for debate.

You can basically measure how quick I turn off my brain to listening to people with the idea of, "Well, if people had just gone with communism then there wouldn't have been mass murder." "Fuck you, Apologist. I'd say that even if I wasn't a Theist who'd be first in front of the firing range."

Orwell is a guy it's truly easy to understand the source of his dour but brilliant writing. To be the guy who sees your views on poverty used to murder the poor and disenfranchised.
 
CT Phipps said:
I somehow think George wouldn't be particularly concerned with your approval given his views.
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Im not laughing at his views. Im laughing at people who think agreeing with his views is unique at all when his books are read in public school lol
CT Phipps said:
oh and speaking of Todd in the Shadows, this video is perfect for the election.

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Yea Ive never given cuck in the shadows or Channel Autism ad money from my clicks and I dont think I'll start now. :V
 
Dr Fallout said:
When you're not a salty loser. Almost.

Actually, it's pretty good. It's refreshing when salt isn't the only thing coming from Hillary supporters. This same God-blessed Human helped Humongus.
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Hillary supporter? I could be wrong here, but I think to remember that he said several times that he's rather unpolitical and doesn't want to tell anyone how to vote and he also said in one of his comments to Joe-con-artist-salad, that you should also not listen to others, if they say you have to vote for this or that or even to vote at all.
I mean, shall I say, he's simply a ... reasonable person?

But maybe he is a Hillary supporter, no clue, I am not so close to Ethan to know what he really believes in. But, I think we should make one thing clear, and I hope that you guys and girls will agree, not everyone who voted for Hillary, was a 'supporter' and not everyone who voted for Trump was a 'supporter', in the sense that they actually loved them. I am not talking about numbers, here, just that there sure are people who saw either Hillary or Trump as the lesser of two evils, to speak so. It's always the same with every ellection.
 
Crni Vuk said:
You're in the bubble Vergil ... you're in the bubble again ...

There is not liking a candidate, and there is being unreasonable. I have no love for Hillary, mind you. But not everyone thinks like you, and if you can not take that, than maybe a democracy is the wrong place for you. Having different opinions and different political positions, is what makes a healthy democracy.
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I mean people can have different opinions, theyre just wrong ones.
Also I thought you were gonna ignore me politically? :D

It seems youve always been doing that since youve posted a video Ive already had to sit down and explain to you multiple times already.
 
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Crni Vuk said:
There is not liking a candidate, and there is being unreasonable. I have no love for Hillary, mind you. But not everyone thinks like you, and if you can not take that, than maybe a democracy is the wrong place for you. Having different opinions and different political positions, is what makes a healthy democracy.
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This.
 
Vergil said:
I mean people can have different opinions, theyre just wrong ones.
Also I thought you were gonna ignore me politically? :D
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Yes, my bad, I got 'triggered'. Anyway, it's all still friendly so far, so no harm done. And we're not in some deep debate anyway.

Vergil said:
I mean people can have different opinions, theyre just wrong ones.
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And this is the 'exact' reason, why I am actually trying to ignoring it.

See, we are not talking about science here right now, like math or physics for example, where it really doesn't matter who's the majority because it comes down to the absolute facts, the empirical evidence. We are mainly talking about politics, ideologies and ideas here, and all our emotions run very high right now, which is understandable I guess.
So you very much endorse Trump? Alright! I sure don't agree with that, but I wouldn't say that you're necessarily 'wrong' in your endorsement, as your arguments why you like him, are as good like anyone elses opinion, this is my definition of a healthy democracy. At the end of the day when everything is said and done, it comes down to the vote, and in this case, its your side, that has won, fair and square, and those that riot right now, are simply put, complete idiots that should be locked up. However, a vote in a democracy is not an ellection about who's right or wrong or which side is holding the ultimate and absolute 'truth', this is a quality found in authoritarianism, like as we can see in Russia and Turkey, where the opposition is silenced, or worse. To think that your ideologial position holds the absolute truth, is a very extreme view that is very alien to a democratic thought process.

What's bad, is the idea that your, and only your side, holds the absolute and definitive truth, where as everyone else simply MUST be wrong, and thus is your ideological enemy. And in that sense, even if you have a completely different opinion, you're actually no different from all the SJW warriors and political correctness that you so much despise and fight, as they think from them self to be so right in their opinion and view, that everyone else is not just only wrong, but should be even silenced.
There are even studies about this, done by the Boston Collegue in 2014, on why ideologies or groups oppose each other so viollently up to the point even, where they sometimes destroy themself, which are rooted a lot in motivation.

I personaly just can't follow your thoughts, like why you like Trump, since we have diametrically opposed opinions. But that for it self, isn't a bad thing, infact, this is actually a very good thing, to say it with the great words of Evelyn Beatrice Hall; 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'
 
CT Phipps said:
Some of us actually kind of worry about those thousands of people going to die or be left homeless fleeing from ISIS.
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And you think Hillary cares about them? Hahaha. Also some of us think why don't those people stand up to them? The couple hundred thousand plus group people fleeing have to have enough able bodied people to be able to stand up to them. You know FREEDOM is not FREE, it's something you have to be always standing up for.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." Thomas Jefferson
 
CT Phipps said:
I think it's a reference to this.

https://twitter.com/shadowtodd/status/638830460206841856

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...ed-to-be-a-pedophile-but-i-was-just-trolling/

Which from the second bit of research says, is, "No, I'm not actually a pedophile or a white supremacist but I am an internet troll."

Which, okay, better than a pedophile, but really bad internet behavior.
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That's a load of shit, if you really want the truth about that kiddie diddler then just watch this video:


Who the fuck says "I was trolling about being a pedophile"? Nobody does something that ignorant, it makes no sense.
 
CT Phipps said:
Some of us actually kind of worry about those thousands of people going to die or be left homeless fleeing from ISIS.
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Hillary certainly didnt considering she, Obama and Bush helped start ISIS.
Crni Vuk said:
Yes, my bad, I got 'triggered'. Anyway, it's all still friendly so far, so no harm done. And we're not in some deep debate anyway.


And this is the 'exact' reason, why I am actually trying to ignoring it.

See, we are not talking about science here right now, like math or physics for example, where it really doesn't matter who's the majority because it comes down to the absolute facts, the empirical evidence. We are mainly talking about politics, ideologies and ideas here, and all our emotions run very high right now, which is understandable I guess.
So you very much endorse Trump? Alright! I sure don't agree with that, but I wouldn't say that you're necessarily 'wrong' in your endorsement, as your arguments why you like him, are as good like anyone elses opinion, this is my definition of a healthy democracy. At the end of the day when everything is said and done, it comes down to the vote, and in this case, its your side, that has won, fair and square, and those that riot right now, are simply put, complete idiots that should be locked up. However, a vote in a democracy is not an ellection about who's right or wrong or which side is holding the ultimate and absolute 'truth', this is a quality found in authoritarianism, like as we can see in Russia and Turkey, where the opposition is silenced, or worse. To think that your ideologial position holds the absolute truth, is a very extreme view that is very alien to a democratic thought process.

What's bad, is the idea that your, and only your side, holds the absolute and definitive truth, where as everyone else simply MUST be wrong, and thus is your ideological enemy. And in that sense, even if you have a completely different opinion, you're actually no different from all the SJW warriors and political correctness that you so much despise and fight, as they think from them self to be so right in their opinion and view, that everyone else is not just only wrong, but should be even silenced.
There are even studies about this, done by the Boston Collegue in 2014, on why ideologies or groups oppose each other so viollently up to the point even, where they sometimes destroy themself, which are rooted a lot in motivation.

I personaly just can't follow your thoughts, like why you like Trump, since we have diametrically opposed opinions. But that for it self, isn't a bad thing, infact, this is actually a very good thing, to say it with the great words of Evelyn Beatrice Hall; 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'
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This is far too big of a post for me to reply to on mobile rn maybe later I'll come up with some snarky response to it.
 
I actually would be interested in how you think ISIS came to be, Vergil. What do you think should have been done?

MercenarySnake said:
Who the fuck says "I was trolling about being a pedophile"? Nobody does something that ignorant, it makes no sense.
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Well, they also were claiming to be a white supremacist. I get the impression its meant to be a asshole persona and they never expected to be caught.

Which is, I state, a pretty shitty defense.
 
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