Yo momma so fat, Fish thinks she's a mega structure circling our star
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Could be true, that could be the thing that life struggles to attain. Or we could somehow be special and the first ones to ever get as far as we have gotten. We don't really know though.
And they would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling humans and primitive scouting equipment.
Silica Pathways
First time out of the vault
But WHY would it not be possible? We technically already can do it the low tech way - by building generation ships and sending them off. Most of the arguments against GS are utter bullsh*t, large amount of people already(!) live indoors, therefore it is absurd to imagine that moving said room-dweller to a spaceship would suddenly turn him/her crazy. Quite the contrary, many people would be happy to continue their introvert lifestyle on a ship, since that could mean less work (depending how automated said ship is, but normally you want to automate it a lot) and a possibility to get a fresh start for good.
No doubt. But breaching the 4th wall is likely much, much harder than ET colonization. So we make do with what we have until the Creator/Creators allow us to leave it.
broneslav
It Wandered In From the Wastes
### **Assessing the Probability of an Astronaut in Cryosleep Dying from Galactic or Stellar Cosmic Rays During a Flight to Alpha Centauri**
The likelihood of an astronaut in cryosleep dying from galactic cosmic rays (GCR) or solar cosmic rays (SCR) during a trip to Alpha Centauri depends on several factors:
### **1. Duration of the Flight**
Distance to Alpha Centauri: ~4.37 light-years.
With current technology (e.g., Breakthrough Starshot at ~20% light speed), the journey would take **~20-25 years**.
### **2. Radiation Levels in Interstellar Space**
- **Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCR)** – High-energy protons and atomic nuclei (mostly from supernovae).
- Flux: **~4 particles/cm²/s** (on average).
- Energy: Up to 10²⁰ eV (but most are ~1-10 GeV).
- **Solar Cosmic Rays (SCR)** – Less dangerous, but solar flares can cause short-term spikes.
### **3. Spaceship Shielding**
- **No shielding**: Radiation dose over 20 years ~ **10-20 Sv** (1000-2000 rad), which is lethal.
- **Basic aluminum shielding (5-10 cm)**: Reduces dose by 2-3x (~5-10 Sv), still dangerous.
- **Advanced shielding (water/plastic shielding, magnetic field)**: Could lower dose to **~1-2 Sv**, increasing cancer risk but not guaranteeing death.
### **4. Cryosleep (Suspended Animation)**
- If metabolism is slowed, radiation damage may accumulate, but repair mechanisms are also inactive.
- Theoretically, DNA damage could be critical upon awakening.
### **Estimated Probability of Death**
- **No shielding**: ~100% (10+ Sv is fatal within years).
- **Basic shielding**: ~50-70% (5-10 Sv causes radiation sickness and cancer).
- **Advanced shielding**: ~10-30% (1-2 Sv increases cancer risk but is not immediately lethal).
### **Conclusion**
If the spacecraft **lacks strong radiation shielding**, the probability of death from cosmic rays is **very high** (>50%). With good shielding (magnetic fields, water barriers), the risk drops to **10-30%**.
For a safe journey, either of the following is needed:
✔ **Artificial magnetic field** (like Earth’s).
✔ **Thick hydrogen-rich shielding** (water, polyethylene).
✔ **Reduced travel time** (under 10-15 years).
Since such technologies are not yet available, the risk remains significant.
The likelihood of an astronaut in cryosleep dying from galactic cosmic rays (GCR) or solar cosmic rays (SCR) during a trip to Alpha Centauri depends on several factors:
### **1. Duration of the Flight**
Distance to Alpha Centauri: ~4.37 light-years.
With current technology (e.g., Breakthrough Starshot at ~20% light speed), the journey would take **~20-25 years**.
### **2. Radiation Levels in Interstellar Space**
- **Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCR)** – High-energy protons and atomic nuclei (mostly from supernovae).
- Flux: **~4 particles/cm²/s** (on average).
- Energy: Up to 10²⁰ eV (but most are ~1-10 GeV).
- **Solar Cosmic Rays (SCR)** – Less dangerous, but solar flares can cause short-term spikes.
### **3. Spaceship Shielding**
- **No shielding**: Radiation dose over 20 years ~ **10-20 Sv** (1000-2000 rad), which is lethal.
- **Basic aluminum shielding (5-10 cm)**: Reduces dose by 2-3x (~5-10 Sv), still dangerous.
- **Advanced shielding (water/plastic shielding, magnetic field)**: Could lower dose to **~1-2 Sv**, increasing cancer risk but not guaranteeing death.
### **4. Cryosleep (Suspended Animation)**
- If metabolism is slowed, radiation damage may accumulate, but repair mechanisms are also inactive.
- Theoretically, DNA damage could be critical upon awakening.
### **Estimated Probability of Death**
- **No shielding**: ~100% (10+ Sv is fatal within years).
- **Basic shielding**: ~50-70% (5-10 Sv causes radiation sickness and cancer).
- **Advanced shielding**: ~10-30% (1-2 Sv increases cancer risk but is not immediately lethal).
### **Conclusion**
If the spacecraft **lacks strong radiation shielding**, the probability of death from cosmic rays is **very high** (>50%). With good shielding (magnetic fields, water barriers), the risk drops to **10-30%**.
For a safe journey, either of the following is needed:
✔ **Artificial magnetic field** (like Earth’s).
✔ **Thick hydrogen-rich shielding** (water, polyethylene).
✔ **Reduced travel time** (under 10-15 years).
Since such technologies are not yet available, the risk remains significant.
Silica Pathways
First time out of the vault
Not only riskant, it also makes it weird for you to use such technologies for your argument.
More so since it completely does not concern the generation ship travel. Freezing travelers is always risky, yes, because you do not possess the means to reproduce them, if they are frozen, therefore if all die, death it is. Meanwhile in a generation ship it hardly matters when people kick the bucket, since it is already taken into account, the whole ship is built to make it liveable for countless generations, meaning, it already assumes it's travelers dying, whether due to some sciency mumbo-jumbo, old age or because someone cracked his/her skull. I.e., in a generation ship travelers themselves are replaceable.
Then I dump toxic waste all over your spaceship!
I love slop.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
I love getting sloppy.
Sloppy throatfucking videos are the best. But that's probably a pretty popular opinion.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
What? No. Sloppies.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Why?
Morgan_
Duckerz
People that post ads are terrorists.
It's art.
Silica Pathways
First time out of the vault
They aren't banned, just read of one of my countrymen who wen't there recently. The bans will come after the resource wars, if any.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
nerfrog
First time out of the vault
Living life without any meaningful connection with anybody is just not worth it.