Vanished into thin air!

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by taag, Dec 25, 2008.

  1. taag

    taag Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 30, 2008
    A disturbing list of things from Fallout 1 / 2 that have vanished in Fallout 3.

    Things that Vault Dweller would notice missing...


    • * Midget people!
      * AP / JHP ammo
      * Supermutants' scalp hair
      * Spears
      * Pig rats
      * Throwing knives
      * Glowing goo
      * Tribals
      * Farming + farming tools
      * Weapons worth a damn
      * Wattz Electronics
      * Poseidon Energy
      * Shovels
      * Brahmin goo
      * Power Armor being awesome
      * Brothels
      * Ball gags after you lose arm wrestling
      * Novelty porn mags
      * Prolonged healing of crippled parts of body
      * Fat people
      * Skinny people
      * Hunched people
      * Funny computer entries
      * Raider Gang names
      * First Aid Kit
      * Killer Plants
      * Tribes

    Things that player would notice missing



    • * World map encounters
      * Outdoorsman
      * Interesting combat
      * Fun death animations
      * Witty descriptions of items and creatures
      * Sense of scale
      * Dark ambient soundtrack
      * Interactions between towns
      * Decent graphics. (Don't tell me FO3's graphics are good, soup textures have been inexcusable since Doom 3)
      * Gravedigging
      * Childkilling
      * Fun
      * Good writing
      * RPG
      * Interesting NPCs
      * Rewarding cinematics
      * Endgame slideshows
      * Settlements that make sense

      * Traders that actually are usefull
      * Logic and INTERNAL cohesion
      * Seperate Traits, and their negative effects.
      * Skill and Stat check wonderland.




    Feel free to contribute to the lists.
     
  2. cratchety ol joe

    cratchety ol joe Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Sep 2, 2008
    can I add?

    * fun
     
  3. Patton89

    Patton89 Vault Dweller

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    Nov 21, 2008
    Ill add too
    *good writing

    *RPG

    *PA being awesome

    *intresting NPCs
     
  4. taag

    taag Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 30, 2008
    Let's not forget rewarding cinematics. Fallout's videos were always little masterpieces that would leave you looking like this --> :shock:

    Fallout 3 cinematics (if you can call them such) look like a poorly assembled PowerPoint presentation.

    I'll update the list with your contributions.
     
  5. Trithne

    Trithne Still Mildly Glowing

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    Nov 13, 2008
    *Settlements that make sense.

    *Tribals.

    *Farming.

    *Weapons worth a damn.

    *Decent graphics. (Don't tell me FO3's graphics are good, soup textures have been inexcusable since Doom 3)
     
  6. Ad Astra

    Ad Astra It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 16, 2007
    Wattz Electronics: They made so many wonderful products that can be found in Fallout 1/2, but I don't recall any Wattz products (with the possible exception of holodisks), or even a mention of the company, in Fallout 3.

    Poseidon Energy: Another major company absent from Fallout 3.
     
  7. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    Sense of scale.
     
  8. taag

    taag Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 30, 2008
    These five as well...

    * Dark ambient soundtrack
    * Interactions between towns
    * Shovels
    * Gravedigging
    * Childkilling
     
  9. Patton89

    Patton89 Vault Dweller

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    Nov 21, 2008
    possible additions:
    *Brothels, ball gags after you lose arm wrestling, and novelty porn mags.
    *Traders that actually are usefull
    *Logic and INTERNAL cohesion
    *Seperate Traits, and their negative effects.
    *Skill and Stat check wonderland.
     
  10. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    Outdoorsman? Interesting combat? Fun death animations? Witty descriptions of items and creatures? Fallout?
     
  11. coliphorbs

    coliphorbs Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jun 2, 2008
     
  12. taag

    taag Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 30, 2008
    Duh, no we can't have "Fallout" on the list since they've included it in game's title.No one can deny that they're cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University :mrgreen:
     
  13. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    Aw goddamnit.
     
  14. taag

    taag Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 30, 2008
    I separated the list into two... The first one is a list of things Vault Dweller would notice missing if he traveled to East Coast. - Whoa, where's my special Cat's Paw Issue No.5!?

    The second one is a list of things we fans miss dearly.

    As for Outdoorsman, that's the last thing one thought they would remove. No one at Bethesda suggested it could have an effect on those encounters?
     
  15. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    "University", picky about them Blackadder quotes getting quoted properly :P

    Well outdoorsman sort of lives on in Perception as that allows you to spot enemies on your compass... which dosen't make a whole lot of sense now I come to think of it (must be magic).

    Couple I miss:
    * Doctor
    * First aid
    Crippled bones took a doctor's kit and ages to fix in Fallout while in F3 it takes about a second using a stimpak.
    Though this might come under the general heading off verisimilitude.
     
  16. taag

    taag Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 30, 2008
    Lol, right about that Universe thingy. Oxford Universe... doesn't sound bad though.

    Let me add that it's extremnely stupid to heal a broken bone or blindness by "sleeping in bed" like in FO3.
     
  17. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    Poseidon is the most glaringly absent for me, given its ties to the Enclave and pre-War government. They could have at least put its logo on all the power stations.
     
  18. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    Weird how they made the extra effort to make it extra fallouty by adding RobCo and the other companies but completely forgot Poseidon.
    Could be a good way to explain why the computers all over the wasteland still have power as the Enclave are in the area and could be activating the nuclear powerplants to run their own base.
    ... Shame there are only powerstations and no powerplants in the game though.
     
  19. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Actually there is one but it is not a nuclear power plant, looks more like a coal one.
     
  20. nemetoad

    nemetoad It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Dec 7, 2008
    Poseidon also owned gas stations, but Fallout 3 has its own set of those too (The rocket-decorated ones). Maybe Poseidon Energy is just West Coast? A power plant would've been good though, albeit there is a chain of them in-game...

    *First Aid Kit
    *Killer Plants
    *Tribes. One is mentioned, but to find one in a ruined city area does not make much sense come to think of it... would just be another scavenger town.