Vault 15! (Wastelands Chapter 3)-OOC

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Keep in mind my characther has show up, and he's likley to shoot the first person to make a move (Likley, not certain, as he still doesnt know what the fuck is going on. Once he figures it out, he'll think Zeke is being an asshole, and a stupid one at that,)
 
PyroPhoenix said:
Not denying the fact that when he was walking to find Richard after kicking Melvin he was angry, he realized he was acting like an ass. But then when he had spoken to him he was calm and admitted earlier anger. All he had asked was an offhand apology from someone who he thought was casual enough to say sorry. Apparently he had underestimated the level of stubornness Richard possessed which rivaled his own. Richard had made a big fucking deal out of it, and decidedly refused to admit he did something stupid.
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euhm, Richard never made a big deal out of it. Zeke did. Richard remained polite throughout the conversation, although a bit blunt.
on the other hand, Richard did nothing stupid either. he disarmed a breach in protocol and etiquette, which had as a result an extremely minor discomfort towards 2 persons. how bad do you think that your char would really feel? he has to hang around a rather pretty girl for a while. wow, thats tough.

PyroPhoenix said:
Apparently people had no sense of honor these days, and no one cared to say something if they slandered you.
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honor? where was Veds or your honor tainted? a bit of intrigue for the wellbeing of the group? that really must have smudged your honor!
i'd like to remind you, that Zeke is the one going around kicking people in the nuts.
a straight up fair fight could be considered defending Veds and Zekes honor, kicking people in the nuts is just low. but as i said, was your honor really attacked? i dont think so.

PyroPhoenix said:
OOC-For the sake of the lives of the players apologize damnit.
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Zeke hoped that Richard was understanding him becuase if he didn't get an apology by morning he would rig an explosive where the bastard slept and wish him the best of luck as he would walk his way to the Atlantic coast to start a new life.
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are you actually suggesting you would kill my char over this simple lie? you should really get a grip on yourself AND your character... i suggest you should sleep it off, like your character should. maybe blame the beer at the feast.

the little hostility was fun RPing, but this is simply out of control dude... sjeez.
 
Keep in mind, attamptiing to kill off the other PCs

A: Wont work, as I doubt anyone else wants it to happen

B: Your characther would get the shit beat outta him, repeatedlty, before he died. Who remember that god charactehr I tried to bring into lone wanderers when I first started RPing last year ?
 
Bah you fools I ain't oughta control with it. As a matter of fact I am getting a pretty good laugh out of this, but you all seem to be going loco.

I guess emotions don't transfer too well through text so reread the post where Zeke approached Richard. I put the heavy sigh in their to show he had calmed down since Melvin and he was almost apologetic. Inestead of kicking Richard in the nuts as he walked up he sat down and told him he was angry at him. Then when told their was no other option his response wasn't a yell or anything, but was meant to be said sarcastically. Then when you responded it sounded like Richard was being a dick about it and wouldn't apologize. From then on it escalated according to how my character reacts. My OOC kill off you guys threats were just to try to put an end to it seeing as I assusmed you were both half as stubborn as me =). NO HARD FEELING OK?
 
no hard feelings, there was no harm done yet. you got what you deserved anyway =p

but threatening is never a way to stop any kind of argument, pyro, i hope you never make that mistake irl.
 
Lol irl I am so good at arguing I never have to.

I usually don't lose arguments and have yet to have any ongoings feuds with someone.

You guys just keep putting Zeke between a rock and a hard place with the pointed guns.

I keep trying to write creatively to end this, but you guys keep posting new hatred towards Zeke that I gota respond to in character. =)

Zeke has left the party, but I will continue posting him doing his thing until he gets back.
 
Hey, you kicked my guy in the balls over nothing. SOrry Pyro, but that was over-the-top bullying.

You didn't have to write that and you could have changed it. In fact, in this last bit you could have stuck and been cool. You're right, no one probably trusts you. You've written your character as a bully and a punk, even if you were defending Vedpose's character. She's a character that can take care of yourself.

You really didn't think Melvin would let you go easy, did you? Would you have?
 
Personaly, I think that we should all shut the fuck up, and consider what the characther's weve written would do, not what we would do.

Pyro, as Zeke's player, would be the best to determine what Zeke would do.

And if he thinks that Zeke would get all bent out of shape over this, then he's doing what needs be done.

But then, so was Melvin when he beat the shit outta Zeke.
 
PsychoSniper said:
Personaly, I think that we should all shut the fuck up, and consider what the characther's weve written would do, not what we would do.
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I agree- I think we have to play our characters as our characters are drawn. I think Zeke is being protective of Vedpose, but I am not sure if that's realistic in this situation and I think Zeke is overreacting a bit.

As Suaside pointed out, going around kicking people in the nuts is just unrealistic.

Being stubborn and unrepentent might be fair for Zeke, but I doubt he would have gone this far to begin with.
Pyro, as Zeke's player, would be the best to determine what Zeke would do.
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Fair enough. But the character is playing off like a punk. Kick a guy in the nuts in the bathroom? That's so high school.

And if he thinks that Zeke would get all bent out of shape over this, then he's doing what needs be done.
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I think this issue became one of ego and vanity over reason. Characters don't like to get knocked around for another writer's enjoyment.

And that's important- we're players here as well as characters, and this thing has to take into consideration the other players as well.

A person can't just strong hand a game, play the macho tough guy and kick ass and expect to get a lot of love from the other players. And characters will not respond well to others who act more with violence than reason- even in the wasteland.

But then, so was Melvin when he beat the shit outta Zeke.
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Melvin is more likely to put up with shit from female characters than males, more like like to put up with shit from anyone than most characters, and is probably more likely to forgive and forget than most. That's how he is. He might be crude and rude, a bit of a pervert, but that's also part of his agenda. He's not dishonest or disloyal, and he will stand up in a fight if it calls to it.

That said, this is a character who glorifies samuel jackson and richard roundtree's shaft. He simply would not put up with that kind of a cheap blow. Shaft wouldn't do it, neither will Melvin- or so thinks Melvin. Worse, Melvin is aware that if he doesn't he's the regular bitch. But Melvin would give the guy a chance to make peace and let bygones be bygones. What Zeke did was not only a cheap blow, but also a wound to his ego, and Melvin does have an ego.

Regardless, Pyro painted a picture and put his character into a corner. That characters would respond violently or defensively, might have been predictable.

What didn't make sense was that Richard saw the blow coming. Zeke kicked Melvin in the nuts in a bathroom, not in plain sight. Richard should not even have seen that coming. In deed there was little to expect from Zeke as a violent response would have been unpredictable.

Frankly, this was bad play all around.
 
Ok Welsh those are all valid points in a way but to understand you gotta realise that Zeke is similar to Lupin the 3rd. He has a very strong sense of honour but at the same time fights as dirty as possible.

Zeke is the stubborn guy you find downing shots of whiskey at the bar table that picks fights with leather clad bikers.

For Zeke a good swift kick in the nads was the perfect solution for that. Not to mention the fact that he is meaner when drunk. Add to that the fierce determination to protect Vedpose since they have been through so much and you have your explanation as best as I can give it.

When Zeke approached Richard he wasn't angry at him he just wanted an apology for an awkward situation.

EX. Bill and jim are walking by 2 girls and their group of friends Bill yells out. "hey Jim nice job knocking up stacy." They keep walking on but when out of sight of group of friends Bill says WTF dude what did you say that for. Jim will usually rply that he was just kidding and he is sorry. Not " Dude you are totally overreacting to me slandering you and expecting an apology jeese what the hell is with you."


See my point guys. Also Carib did not help the situation as Zeke is a person who doesn't like others in his business and will stop them at all costs.

Also you guys are blowing this way out of proportion and getting too serious. This won't drastically affect the RP and will add a lot of spice to it. Like when two cooks are at the same pot arguing over whether or not enough pepper has been added. Just chill the hell out and stand back to watch the fun (^_^).
 
Ive got to a gree with Pyro, it's his choice to decide how his PC reacts.

We might not like, but we must respect that right to the player chosing if were to RP succesfully, lest out RP become a peice of fanfic written by the GM (Welsh) (not that that'd be bad, but were here to RP, not read fanfic.)

EDIT, clarification.
 
brotherhood knight said:
OOC:i wonder where rob was during all this.......

IC:

Rob had missed out on this weeks exciting episode of some of the group finally loseing it,Rob really didn't care either since he hasn't had a good night sleep in ages until he woke to the cursing of a man outside his tent.

Rob quickly got up and gathered his things and headed out to see what it was and to his suprise it was Dwemer who had tripped over a rope on his way out of camp.

"well well.......what do we have here,what exactly are you doing?"asked Rob curiously

"I am going to try and reach Vault 15 on my own....this is my quest not the groups."replied Dwemer as he rose to his feet

"then I shall go with you.....I have already promised Caribe i will go with him to take care of things back home....but I will still go with you,I do not want a freind dieing out in wastes alone"Said Rob as he extended his arm
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ow come on BK

i think Welsh made it clear he wanted to leave alone at this point in time. "quietly leaving the camp" is not tripping and cursing imho...
 
yes and did you notice i didn't write a reply for it........so Welsh can write what Dwemer answered cause i dont wanna assume anything.......and if Welsh doesnt want me to go then Dwemer will say something to convince me to stay with the group........no big problem.
 
Note, from what I learned Carib isn't one who would stand by seeing his comrades being threatened. While Roadrunner is easy going, and annoying because she tends to read people better then they actually understand themselves.

What would you expect Carib to do? He is violent, he grew up in the Boneyard, I can imagine he is the sort who lives by the gun, and he not shotting you out right for kicking Melvin in the balls is an improvement.
 
OKay just a note. From what I know Sam Solo is only good with first aid, I could be wrong. Ved on the other hand grew up in town full of doctors who trained her and received further training from the BOS during her time there (she has been a field medic/surgeon in the past). It would just seem more practical that Ved takes care of this. Hey, you guys think I am wrong I am fine with it. I just thought I would put my thoughts in on it.
 
Prudence said:
Name: Sam Solo
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SKILLS
-Energy Weapons
-Melee Weapons
-Doctor
-Science
*snip*
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her primary healing skill = doctor, not first aid. (however a doctor should know plenty about first aid anyway)

but no need to fight over who gets to patch up Melvins balls now is there ladies? :lol: :wink:
 
Doctor skills mean better ability with healing big stuff.

However, a doctor would still have first aid cabibilty, just not be as quick.efficent/well versed as say a parimedic.
 
if the idea isnt clear enough: here's a crayon!!!!!

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anyhow, simple idea, but could work :)

i wont loose sleep if the idea is shot down though
 
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