War - thread

Who knows.

Maybe the university doesn't need police. Then, if something serious happens, parents will bitch and moan why there was no police there and try to sue the university.

Yea an MRAP is a bit much for CAMPUS police, I will give you that. My point still stands with run of the mill police forces. Your university example still doesn't justify the drama of, 'police militarisation'. We ALSO have discussed this previously.
 
MutantScalper said:
I think we're in perpetual war by now. And in US, if you're a poor or relatively poor person living in a ghetto-type area, joining their military and going to war doesn't seem that bad of an option. Or becoming a 'full' mercenary.

It's funny though, with the various protests like the one in North Dakota where veterans arrived to protect Native American lands, the veterans are saying that the cops have more military gear then they had when they were in the military. Up-armored Humvees, APC's, helicopters, snipers with military weapon systems, experimental gas etc., concussion grenades that can rip you apart, etc. US police is fusing with the US military and MIC (military industrial complex) is feeding off that situation.
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The militarization of the police is basically due to three factors:

1. Post 9/11 hysteria
2. The culture of the police and glorification of violence
3. The fact the US military keeps giving them its hand me downs.

I will say, though, only one place exists where we should cut mercenaries off and that's the US prison system.

De-privatize them all immediately.

TorontRayne said:
Those liberal college students are so rough and tough though. They need plenty of armor in case they decide to launch RPG's and utilize asymmetrical warfare.
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Hahahaha! I just checked out that article. *I* went to Ohio University. I take full credit for the need for all of the militarization.

They all sensed my anarchist impulses.
 
All of this reminds me of that Oregon occupation of the wildlife building.
I greatly enjoyed the unboxing of some care packages they received. (NSFW)
http://1059thebrew.iheart.com/onair/cort-webber-39106/someone-sent-the-burns-militia-a-14269243/

The best perspective to maintain when dealing with a governing body; assume it is a living organism, by doing so their path of logic is illuminated. Basically its a multi-cell-organism fighting to survive, at all costs.

Best be quick and hide all those delightful resources you have been hoarding, because the tax man wants his unfair share.
 
I confess, I was always confused why people were so up in arms about that. People used to occupy federal buildings all the time in the Sixties.
 
I will say this, war prior to the 1800's was cooler. Cavalry charges, large battles to the death, swords, armor and etc.

Maybe I like it more because im such a huge history nerd and I adore cavalry (cavalry charges are just too badass)
 
Yeah, you would also die more often in very horrorible ways, due to infections, bacteria, poor hygene etc. I am not saying that it doesn't happen today either, but medications and medicine in particular has REALLY improved a lot compared to medieval times. Or even just 1 or 2 centures ago. I mean geting a bullet in your arm or leg, often meant that you lost that limb. If you experienced a battle like in the napoleonic area or before that, it was maybe even better if you just died as surviving veterans had a really shitty life, missing some limbs and all that if you didn't had some really good family behind you that would take care about you, you have been pretty much forced to go around and begging for stuff.

Seriously, I love history as much like the next guy. But the last thing I REALLY want, is to actually experience it.
 
Supreme Shah Ismail said:
I will say this, war prior to the 1800's was cooler. Cavalry charges, large battles to the death, swords, armor and etc.

Maybe I like it more because im such a huge history nerd and I adore cavalry (cavalry charges are just too badass)
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Cavalry did underline the importance of mobility in war. Always did well with my Sarmatian horse archers in Rome - Total War. And Gothic cavalry.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Yeah, you would also die more often in very horrorible ways, due to infections, bacteria, poor hygene etc. I am not saying that it doesn't happen today either, but medications and medicine in particular has REALLY improved a lot compared to medieval times. Or even just 1 or 2 centures ago. I mean geting a bullet in your arm or leg, often meant that you lost that limb. If you experienced a battle like in the napoleonic area or before that, it was maybe even better if you just died as surviving veterans had a really shitty life, missing some limbs and all that if you didn't had some really good family behind you that would take care about you, you have been pretty much forced to go around and begging for stuff.

Seriously, I love history as much like the next guy. But the last thing I REALLY want, is to actually experience it.
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Never said I wanted to experience it, just saying the brutality of it and the fighting styles were just more appealing to me.
 
MutantScalper said:
Cavalry did underline the importance of mobility in war. Always did well with my Sarmatian horse archers in Rome - Total War. And Gothic cavalry.
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Gothic Knights I agree with, they're one of my favourite units (alongside Greek Firethrowers) however, my favourite unit in Rome Total War was undoubtedly the Cataphract, because of how near invincible they were.
 
The notorious OVB said:
Gothic Knights I agree with, they're one of my favourite units (alongside Greek Firethrowers) however, my favourite unit in Rome Total War was undoubtedly the Cataphract, because of how near invincible they were.
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Persian Cataphracts were essentially the Apache helicopter of their day. Basically the whole concept of knights (land owning warrior class who fight on horseback with heavy armor/lances who are sworn to serve the king and defend the realm) is from Iranian Parthians and Sassanids, in which the roman byzantines adopted cataphracts and they later influenced european knight caste.
 
The notorious OVB said:
Gothic Knights I agree with, they're one of my favourite units (alongside Greek Firethrowers) however, my favourite unit in Rome Total War was undoubtedly the Cataphract, because of how near invincible they were.
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It's been a long time since I played it, don't remember if I tried Cataphract. Seleucids were pretty tough from what I remember but I mostly played with Suebii/Germanics. I tried to do ambushes in the style of the woodsmen the Germanic barbarians were but it can't really be done well in the game, it was always a meeting engagement of something on a fairly open field.
 
Supreme Shah Ismail said:
Persian Cataphracts were essentially the Apache helicopter of their day. Basically the whole concept of knights (land owning warrior class who fight on horseback with heavy armor/lances who are sworn to serve the king and defend the realm) is from Iranian Parthians and Sassanids, in which the roman byzantines adopted cataphracts and they later influenced european knight caste.
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They sexually identify as attack helicopters, you will call them apache, and respect they're right to kill for their country, if you do not, you're a heliphobe, and need to check your vehicle privilege.
 
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