Watchmen Question
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TyloniusFunk
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Leon said:
Though the comic never does get around to explaining how it is that his face always appears symmetrical.
BTW... I'm half way through it, watching it as much as I can stand at a time... holly shit, will this thing never end. The comments about the acting sucking are right on. The action scenes and the Matrix effects are indeed overindulgent and indicative of the director not knowing what the fuck he's doing, i.e. making a movie not a comic. Actions in the comic might be exaggerated, but they don't look unrealistically asinine. When I saw the Veidt-Assassin scene I almost had to commit Seppuku. Why couldn't they get the Cohen brothers to do an HBO miniseries? OMG... NERD RAGE BUILDING.... GOING TO
UncannyGarlic
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Yeah, my reaction to the movie was that they should have gotten Christopher Nolan and his Batman team to make the movie. That said, the opening credits were extremely well done and the music selection was hillarious, even if it does damage the movie.
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
It turns moments which are supposed to be serious to hilarious or just make no sense (99 Red Ballons is the biggest offender). Hallelujah I felt fit the sex scene in my mind though.JayGrey said:
JayGrey said:
You're kidding. It's like a random WinAmp playlist of good songs from that time period; no effort is made to have a cohesive soundtrack, or to have the songs fit the scenes.
Watchmen was a pretty shitty move. Even ignoring the shitty acting and too-hasty story progression, the action scenes were laughably stupid, looking more like synchronized ballet with badass poses than real fighting, defeating any "real-life with vigilantes" feel it might try for.
Hell, they even almost managed to ruin Rorschach, by giving him that stupid, ridiculous "gritty voice" of Bale in Batman. That voice nearly ruined Dark Knight, and it certainly doesn't help Watchmen.
Brother None said:
Despite however annoying that may have been, I really had no idea what they were trying to do with Rorschach's font in the book as far as a voice goes, so it didn't really bother me all that much since it could possibly have been what they were going for in the first place.
Cimmerian Nights
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Oh God, two parts of this movie had me laughing out loud at how bad the music selsction was.JayGrey said:
First of all Viet Nam War + Die Walkurie. Nobody should touch this combination ever again. It should never be done. It's like repainting the Mona Lisa. You just wouldn't do it. What kind of shithead would piggyback on something like that? Even if it was a *wink wink* homage (which I don't think it was) it's stupid.
Then, playing Simon & Garfuknel at the funeral. Holy fucking overdone maudlin selection. Like killing a fly with a sledgehammer. No nuance, no subtlety.
Add to this the fact that the last time this song was used in a movie was here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hixONU_IJh8[/youtube]
Now it fits that movie great since it's an overdone comedy, it's just awkward, goofy and hamfisted in Watchmen.
All I could think of was Stifler when I heard this, rolled my eyes, scoffed.
edit: The song gets cut off at the end, there but it's "Hello darkness my old friend..."
And let me say, I've read the comic probably 3 or 4 times over the years. It's an exceptional comic, and if there's little inconsistencies between the two I really don't care to bust balls. But I literally could not stay awake watching this movie. It was just so painfully dull.
Cimmerian Nights
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It starts when he plunges into the pool. Sorry I really can't be fucked to scour youtube for it. Suffice to say that 2 minutes is more entertaining then anything form Watchmen. I'm sorry to say that too.Cimmerian Nights said:
edit: Sorry bro, best I can find:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUy9ePyo6Q[/youtube]
Picture Wil Ferrell floating to his death in that bathrobe all halcyon of the tranq dart.
Now transpose the same music to the Comedian's funeral.
Mawkish, maudlin, waaaaaaaaay overly melodramatic.
TyloniusFunk
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Cimmerian Nights said:
How hard would it have been to just have taps at the funeral then do the godamn juxtaposition from the bouquet to the fireworks like in the fucking comic. FUCK! Snyder was high for the whole fucking production.
BTW, finished it... why the fuck does Dr. Manhattan seem like Mr. Burns after he gets "fixed", wandering around all doped up the whole movie? "Oh... Adrian... You're right.... It's better this way, now humanity is saved forevers." Shoot me with a rubber bullet.
Cimmerian Nights
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I still can't get off the Apocalypse Now/Flight of the Valkyries rip-off. Why the fuck would anyone do that? Was that supposed to be like a Robot Chicken sketch or something?
TyloniusFunk
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Moore said that with "Watchmen," he told the epic tale of a large number of characters over decades of history with "a range of techniques" that cannot be translated to the movie screen, among them the "book within a book" technique, which took readers through a second, interior story as well as documents and the writings of characters. He also said he was offended by the amount of money and resources that go into the Hollywood projects. "They take an idea, bowdlerize it, blow it up, make it infantile and spend $100 million to give people a brief escape from their boring and often demeaning lives at work. It's obscene and it's offensive. This is not the culture I signed up for. I'm sure I sound like Bobby Fischer talking about chess "
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/09/alan-moore-on-w.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/09/alan-moore-on-w.html
maximaz
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
This is actually a lot more entertaining than Watchmen
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da1ADqPplQ4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da1ADqPplQ4[/youtube]
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I'm a huge Moore fan and all, and he has a good point, but none of this stops him from cashing his checks. He does know enough to take the money and run as far away as possible from all the movie adaptations based on his work. He washed his hands of Hollywood a long time ago.TyloniusFunk said:
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
I thought that it fit Rorshach pretty well (thought it was what they were trying to do with his speech in the comic), unlike Batman (I felt that the VA in TAS sounded the most right for modern Batman).Brother None said:
Of course not, I just think that his team and Brain Singer's X-Men team (first two movies) have been the most successful thus far (excluding the 1960's Batman movie). At the very least I think that you have to give him that he does actions scenes right. BN's description of Watchmen's action scenes as "synchronized ballet with badass poses" is dead on and dead wrong for any serious movie (then again, I'm still not sure that the Watchmen movie was supposed to be serious). That said, you're probably right that Nolan wouldn't be the best for the movie but as I don't follow directors all that much, he was the first that popped into my head.Public said:
Seymour the spore plant
Still Mildly Glowing
The Watchmen movie was truly a pathetic piece of shit. Zack Snyder managed to outdo himself and miss the point by an even wider margin his 300 adaptation did. I wonder why these hacks feel an irrepressible urge to cram their own childish attempts at writing on the source material that they proclaim to oh-so-love; a very Bethesdian approach to marketing and production 
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Yes, it does. He refused the money for all recent turds Hollywood shat his way, telling them to give his share to the artists who worked in the defiled comics instead and remove his name from the movie. Sadly, he has no rights to most of his work, and so cannot prevent the misuse of his creations by an intelectually bankrupt industry.
.Cimmerian Nights said:
Yes, it does. He refused the money for all recent turds Hollywood shat his way, telling them to give his share to the artists who worked in the defiled comics instead and remove his name from the movie. Sadly, he has no rights to most of his work, and so cannot prevent the misuse of his creations by an intelectually bankrupt industry.