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What I mean with "Time will show who's right in the end" is that you can denny reality, but you can't escape it. Physical laws, do not simply change just because we don't like them or based on what we think to be true. Someone jumping out of a window from a skyscraper might not believe in gravity up to the moment he dies, but gravity doesn't care it's simply there.

So if the climate sceptics are right? Wonderfull! I certainly hope they are right. But as said, nature doesn't give a flying fuck about what anyone of us hopes to be the truth.
 
Finnish gentlemen are fine, while Aussies are boiled in their own juice. Temperatures in Sydney are slowly climbing up to 50°C right now according to interwebz!
 
valcik said:
Finnish gentlemen are fine, while Aussies are boiled in their own juice. Temperatures in Sydney are slowly climbing up to 50°C right now according to interwebz!
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Yes, Sydney had record temperatures. Hope Serifan is well 'cooled down' so the 'climate hoax' doesn't heat up his pajamas. :D
 
But climate is constantly changing, if australia becomes inhospitable in 50-60 years, it's just nature!
 
Neither. (Most) parts of it are, but some other ones are not (yet). Big place, after all. But signs of massive ongoing deterioration of ecosystems are almost everywhere, that said. Give it 3...4 more decades me thinks, Jogre, then almost all of it would be way past that point indeed.
 
It's a penal colony, it's not supposed to be hospitable.
Countries only sent their maddest of the mad there, and look what it got us.
People who put shrimps on the barbie in what is as close to Hell on Earth as it gets.
 
Hassknecht said:
It's a penal colony, it's not supposed to be hospitable.
Countries only sent their maddest of the mad there, and look what it got us.
People who put shrimps on the barbie in what is as close to Hell on Earth as it gets.
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I can confirm this and I bet @Serifan can too.
 
Why for summon me outside the order.
Climate change is natural process and animals and people will adapt to that change.

Also I don't think I have to worry about drought when it rains 70mm in half an hour.
 
Everything is a natural process if you think about it. Doesn't mean that we should support or do everything without thinking of the consequences. Leaving climate change asside, it should be kinda logical to any rational human beeing that preserving your environment, well is a good thing. If only for the fact that your children and grandchildren don't have to go for youtube for looking at some wildlife, because most of the animal kingdom has gone extinct and the only plants that grow outside are genetically modifed crops or something like that. Or that you're not getting cancer from all the shit that's in the air due to pollution. Google life expectency in Honkong or one of the other most polluted cities in the world.

Besides, I always thought ... preserving your environment is actually a rather conservative thing to do ...
 
Yep definitely do need to preserve the environment but currently as it stands it won't happen.

Better option would be just to cull humans probably more effective than a promise to maybe cut emissions.
 
Serifan said:
Yep definitely do need to preserve the environment but currently as it stands it won't happen.

Better option would be just to cull humans probably more effective than a promise to maybe cut emissions.
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How do you keep a sane mind, knowing that while having children? Just curious, you know. I mean does it never cross your mind, like hum, what kind of world do we as species leave to our kidz?

Serifan said:
Better option would be just to cull humans probably more effective than a promise to maybe cut emissions.
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Yeah, the question is just who will be culled and who will do the culling ... doesn't have to necessarily be your side, if you know what I mean.
 
Well no point going crazy over something we can't change. My children won't die from climate change they will die because of war which is coming. When China or Russia decides that they had enough of American that's when the world ends.

Crni as for the culling it's called war and not many people are going to come out well from the next major conflict. That or Israel finally releases the most horrendous creation man has ever made that not many people are aware of which is an ethnic bio-weapon a virus that targets genetic markers of specific race.
 
Serifan said:
Well no point going crazy over something we can't change.
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But ... we can?

Pushing for more environmental regulations with the intention to protect wildlife and for more environment friendly technologies for example. Just a few regulations and changes here, can already improve the quality of life tremendiously. Industries causing pollution could be taxed and forced to take care of their waste, better alternatives and technologies could be subsidized - which also creates jobs by the way, the clean energy sector is one of the fastest growing ones, where fossil fuel is shrinking. It's not like it's impossible to make an impact. The world bank for example is aiming to stop to invest in Oil and Gas extraction from 2019. Even Saudi Arabia is making plans for the time after Oil.

Even without believing in Climate Change, it is a sensible and logical thing to do, investing in alternatives as sooner or later fossil fuel is going to run out. It's not an endless resource after all. And If I had the choice, I would rather move sooner away from fossil fuel than later.

Serifan said:
Well no point going crazy over something we can't change. My children won't die from climate change they will die because of war which is coming.
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Yes, because pollution is just a minor issue. I wasn't talking about climate change, I was talking about all the shit we release in the environment. I have no clue where you live exactly, but I am pretty sure that pollution is even in australia a problem. No one knows what will happen in 50 years from now, but cosindering the current amount of pollution we create, it doesn't need a degree in rocket science to figure out the potential issue here.
 
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Yeah, even without anthropogenic climate change it's a good idea to develop clean energy sources and environmentally friendly technolgies. Clean air and water is quite nice.
 
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