FOvet said:
Sorry, wasn't trying to 'derail' the topic guys. And I suppose your right, Snap--it is a matter of opinion I suppose. It's just too bad Interplay made such cruddy decisions. When I heard about all the stuff going on with Interplay, I thought I'd never see another FO title again o_o
I also have little patience for huge companies that screw their employees. Shady buisness practices piss me off, especially when they are also slapping their fans (who make them big in the first place) in the face.
The interplay today is even worse then Betheada in my eyes. Bethesda has at least some creativity with their art department which you can see in all of their games. I would just love if they had the same skills with gameplay and writing. But thats a story for it self.
Thing is, that interplay screwed Fallout much more then Beth ever could. Beth has always made games like Morrowind or Oblivion. It was clear what to expect despite their marketing. Interplay though has fallen from grace. They published great games and there have been great developers around. But a few individuals simply screwed it.
So. Bethesda? They do what they can best. Shallow games for the masses. But Interplay. They used to be great once. Making quality RPGs and other games. And they all literally throw it away for cheap "console" games which never sold really.
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Languorous_Maiar said:
Nope, they won with Interplay and have rights to all Fallout. : )
That's good news for fallout 4, they have a vested interest in keeping the franchise strong and putting forth a quality product. I just hope they collaborate with the guys at obsidian. FO3 wasteland + obsidian story and dialouge = a very good game
Attn mods, I accidently clicked "report" when I was trying to quote the poste, please disregard
Fallout 3 sold extremely well, according to Beth it was a huge success.
Why should they ever decide to move away from their Oblivion formula when it was so successful with pretty much anything they did. At least if you ask the gaming press.
Thing is, I think Skyrim is the best you can actually hope for. For an open end sand box game Skyrim was "decent". I doubt Fallout 4 would be better.
I don't know why, is it because of Todd? Or because they simply lack the needed skill? I don't know it. But Beth simply has a problem when it comes to writing and dialogues. But they are sure not alone with that. It seems that "writing" has become a serious problem in the game industry today. No clue if they simply try to save money here believing "hey! our Irvin here can do it just as well! Even though he never knew how to write! But since he is free right now and has nothing to do anyway!"
Comparing some really old games I see that they had a more mature tone and I am not talking here about insults. More the style of the writing. Take Planescape as best example. Or Jagged Alliance which was full of humor but it never felt like it was written for 5 year olds. And that is the problem with the writing of many games today. It feels like the Dialogues have to be understood by everyone. Even a toddler. I am 27 years old damnit. I am bored from this kind of writing. Imagine they would make every movie like that even though they actually are meant for adults.
I am sure Fallout 4 will have improvements over Fallout 3. But I would not expect quality writing which was always something people enjoyed about Fallout 1 and 2 despite of the flaws F2 had.
A Fallout 4 by Obsidian would be probably something which many people would love to see. And I do like that idea as well because I think Vegas was really good. But the chance to see that happen is rather small.