Toe? Note on the shelves? WTF are you guys talking about?
IIRC you only need an electronic lockpick to enter the "secret" room in the Toxic Caves?
IIRC you only need an electronic lockpick to enter the "secret" room in the Toxic Caves?

alec said:Toe? Note on the shelves? WTF are you guys talking about?
IIRC you only need an electronic lockpick to enter the "secret" room in the Toxic Caves?![]()
Silencer said:This is so friggin' priceless, Alec falling for another man's Fallout prank![]()
Colt said:It's much more likely that a couple of tanks sitting in some militia depot in the midwest were to survive than forces on the west coast of North America where the Chinese were invading. Let's see, throw nukes at two tanks and a wheat field or a large population/transit/military center where I'm invading? Decisions, decisions. I don't think it should have been in the game but if they were going to do it, the MBT-70 would have been a good choice.
The US government still has stockpiles of new and almost new WWII vintage firearms in storage in case they're ever needed, most governments do.
alec said:Anyway, Morpoggel, Mikael Grizzly and Hellion are now on my black list of 'Guys who thought they could fuck with me, but should have known better'.
No one fucks with alec's mind, man. No one! *raises fist whilst howling*![]()
Mikael Grizzly said:Well, what I'm working on now (entities and text files) removes all these god-damned real world weapons replacing them with those more true to the setting of Fallout (as AK-97 or M1989NATO, I know, they arent in Fallout, are in Wasteland and W is not part of Fallout, I know, but come with something to replace the AK and M16?).
Baboon said:The Chinese had been thrown out of Alaska long before the Great War, in 2074 I think. They were getting hammered by the new power armors.
Umm yeah, maybe they do now, but I doubt they'll still have them in 72 years. That would be like the US keeping civil war rifles and cannons, in case they're needed.
IF they absolutely had to put a tank in, they could have gotten off their lazy asses and make a futuristic design, fusion-powered and adapted to warfare in 2077.
Baboon said:Crowley said:But isn't the 50's feel one of the basic elements of the Fallout atmosphere? The car designs are from that era, the style of the advertisements etc.
Yeah, but one thing you must understand is that fashion and styles comebacks, close to the real thing as they may be, always have to adapt to the current technological and social limitations of the period. There was a global energy crisis in 2077. Gasoline and natural resources were used widely and without thought in the 50's, something absolutely impossible to recreate. Medical technology was really limited in the 50's compared to what it is, for instance, now. Even though they admired the nuclear family style of the 1950's in 2077, I doubt they reverted to a technological state that was over a 120 years old.
Colt said:Umm, yeah, use your pretty and expensive nukes without any plans of exploiting them? Let's blow up a mountain! Why?! It looks cool! No matter how stupid, a military objective usually isn't to blow up a wheatfield but to take out military and industrial centers or places that could be used for that.
You completely missed my point. The government stockpiles weapons in case of FUTURE need. Just because it's from WWII doesn't mean it won't work and won't kill you. What should they do with them, throw them in a big pile and light them up with some kerosene thrown on top? To what end? Just store the damn things in case you need them or to sell them later to collectors (which they do).
See the link to the MBT-70, futuristic and realistic while looking different. Better than just throwing a Sherman in the game. - Colt
It wasn't just fashion. Fallout is set in an alternate timeline, as it is based on what people of the 40s and 50s imagined the world of the future would look like. Thus, there are laser and plasma weapons, but all the computers are lamp-based because no one imagined there would be such thing as transistors in the future at that time. While there certainly were more weapons in 2077 more advanced than in the 50s, they certainly weren't the ones we had, but some entirely different ones, mostly what people from the 40s and 50s imagined would be used in the 21st century.