What would happen in your area in Fallout
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So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Well, I am assuming Luke AFB, Ft. Huachuca, and Yuma Proving Grounds might get hit. Dunno about the marine air station.
We are close to the mexican border. If they are not involved, I forsee a mass migration of refugees heading south with whatever they can salvage to avoid the radiation.
We are close to the mexican border. If they are not involved, I forsee a mass migration of refugees heading south with whatever they can salvage to avoid the radiation.
Himmelstoss
First time out of the vault
:::SILUS::: said:
But then again, Arizona would be under the rule of Caesar's Legion. Have fun with that.
Being from Sweden, I guess there's a chance to survive. Even assuming the military bases and the cities are gone, there's still a fair amount of wilderness to retreat to. There are even a few Civil Defense bunkers here and there. Theoretically you could survive on canned food and hunting for a while. Maybe even something of the gub'mint might survive.
Wintermind
Vault Senior Citizen
Caesar would be an improvement or Joe Arpiao.
I doubt anyone would really like to waste a nuke on Serbia. Even if there was someone that demented, I think I'd be pretty safe.
Belgrade is 350km away, and there really is nothing of interest around here, aside from agriculture and socks factory...so, I'm pretty much safe from direct hit (though not the fallout).
Main problem would be that my town would very soon fall apart, in every way.
Infra-structurally, we already have some major problems, and lots of buildings would deteriorate and fall apart short time after the holocaust.
Economically, we are trying to get back up on our feet (before communism came, my town was one of the most advanced centers of textile industry in Europe - often compared with Manchester, believe it or not). Today, it's the different story, and we mainly rely on agriculture. Nuclear war would certainly put a stop in our tracks there, so there would be mass conflicts for food (as anywhere else in the world).
Socially speaking, my town is pretty peaceful as it is right now, mainly because of its size and population, which is around 80,000 and another 20,000 living in the country, though that would rapidly change as soon as the great inflation would begin.
Conflicts among many sub-cultural groups would become a standard, fights based on racial issues, and of course, looting, pillaging and everything that follows.
However, one thing would be missing - guns. Not that there aren't any arms around here, but physical confrontations, such as brawls, knife fights and such would be a lot more common.
Gang wars from one side of the street to another using Uzis? Not so much.
All in all, a standard scenario for most cities, only without a direct hit.
Belgrade is 350km away, and there really is nothing of interest around here, aside from agriculture and socks factory...so, I'm pretty much safe from direct hit (though not the fallout).
Main problem would be that my town would very soon fall apart, in every way.
Infra-structurally, we already have some major problems, and lots of buildings would deteriorate and fall apart short time after the holocaust.
Economically, we are trying to get back up on our feet (before communism came, my town was one of the most advanced centers of textile industry in Europe - often compared with Manchester, believe it or not). Today, it's the different story, and we mainly rely on agriculture. Nuclear war would certainly put a stop in our tracks there, so there would be mass conflicts for food (as anywhere else in the world).
Socially speaking, my town is pretty peaceful as it is right now, mainly because of its size and population, which is around 80,000 and another 20,000 living in the country, though that would rapidly change as soon as the great inflation would begin.
Conflicts among many sub-cultural groups would become a standard, fights based on racial issues, and of course, looting, pillaging and everything that follows.
However, one thing would be missing - guns. Not that there aren't any arms around here, but physical confrontations, such as brawls, knife fights and such would be a lot more common.
Gang wars from one side of the street to another using Uzis? Not so much.
All in all, a standard scenario for most cities, only without a direct hit.
Chromevod
Nope.
Hmm I really would wonder. Well I myself would probably be dead due to living nearby a population center, but Minnesota might come out of it all with something halfway survivable. Who knows, maybe some of our thousands of lakes would remain clean and good to drink? Hell, we're pretty sparsely populated all in all if 60% of Minnesotans live in the twin cities metro area. Duluth would be hit, Fargo would be hit, not sure about Rochester or St. Cloud but I'd imagine they'd be hit too. The rest of the state's farmland.
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WelcomeToNewReno
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I live in a rural area about 2 hours from Detroit. If anyone bothers blasting that already doomed city, I guess my fate lies in the blast radius.
I'm at least a dozen kilometers aways from 'larger' cities.
In Germany, this is called "Kaffland". Nothing but villages here.
A nuclear war will not happen here.
In Germany, this is called "Kaffland". Nothing but villages here.
A nuclear war will not happen here.
Surf Solar
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Hassknecht said:
Ever read "Die letzten Kinder von Scheweborn"? You might reconsider your statement after reading it.
Or maybe the wind direction.WelcomeToNewReno said:
The county I live in is an oil field. The refinery a few miles WSW of town might be a target. It's far enough away that you can't smell it in town regardless of wind direction. If it's hit, it depends on the warhead yeild. Wind direction will then determine which way the fallout blows.
Dallas/Ft. Worth doesn't present as much of a target as one would think. Carswell AFB was a primary target once, but it's been closed for some time now. If they nuked us for anything, it would either be because of our many airports or, if things got hairy enough, simply because we're a major population hub and we'd look good on somebody's end-of-the-world kill counter. There are plenty of other bases and silos in the state, though, along with multiple industrial (petrochemical) targets, so I'm sure we'd see a decent amount of fallout, and there'd be a complete breakdown of civil order as the refugees started pouring in.
There's a lot of industry around D/FW. The airports alone would be a target, since they have the potential to be used by the military. The interstates and other major highways make it a travel and shipping hub. These things combined with the sheer population would make any metropolitan area a good target. Duck and cover!
I'd hoped I could get away with implying "travel and shipping hub" by saying "population hub." Also, kinda sorta trying to downplay our strategic importance in case the red menace happens to be reading this, but NEVERMIND.
(Thanks a lot, Rich
)
(Thanks a lot, Rich
)
I'm just 200 miles west of you. Better you than me! Hey, red menace! D/FW! Big juicy target! 
Here's food for thought, though. http://www.webpal.org/SAFE/state/TX/tx_nuclear.htm
Looks like I'm in a fairly save area, as far as attacks and fallout goes. Guess I'll be battling scavengers.
Here's food for thought, though. http://www.webpal.org/SAFE/state/TX/tx_nuclear.htm
Looks like I'm in a fairly save area, as far as attacks and fallout goes. Guess I'll be battling scavengers.
Nope, haven't read that. Sounds interesting, though, I'll look out for it.Surf Solar said:Hassknecht said:
Ever read "Die letzten Kinder von Scheweborn"? You might reconsider your statement after reading it.
Ok, maybe there'd be a little war around here
Krefeld and Düsseldorf would be the nearest targets, maybe Mönchengladbach. If all of them got bombed... With a shitty wind, we might get some fallout.
We have lots af agriculture, though, so the food situation wouldn't be too bad.
Water might be a bigger problem, but not too big. Ground water is pretty high here and there's a small river nearby.
Of course, a SCIENTIFIC! nuclear apocalypse would probably change the water and food situations drastically.
Surf Solar
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Well due to fallout (and possible clouds blocking the sun) those crops wouldn't survive for more than a couple of months at best. There's a big chance your fertile grounds will get not so fertile anymore too. Additionally, you will sooner than you think have people robbing the last remains of the remaining food, people killing each other for a piece of bread or a potato etc.
Heh, just give the book a try. It's actually a book for children, written from the perspective of a young boy from germany who goes with his parents to vacation, when the cold war brakes out and all bigger towns (Erfurt in his case) get nuked. They survive in some small village in rural parts, but shit hits the fan eventually etc. Although it is a book for children, it is extremely depressing and "realistic" - I found it really good.
Heh, just give the book a try.
It's actually a book for children, written from the perspective of a young boy from germany who goes with his parents to vacation, when the cold war brakes out and all bigger towns (Erfurt in his case) get nuked. They survive in some small village in rural parts, but shit hits the fan eventually etc. Although it is a book for children, it is extremely depressing and "realistic" - I found it really good.I've put quite a bit of thought into this since I'm running a table top Fallout game using the Savage Worlds ruleset. This is the beginning of the handout I made for the players...
Fallout: The Secret City
War... War never changes.
Everything has a beginning. Even the end.
Hidden in the sleepy hills of east Tennessee lies a city that does not exist. Built to refine the materials necessary to create the atomic bomb, its existence was never made public to the world. It was here that the bomb was made. It was here the enemy struck hardest. It is here the greatest secrets of the lost age are said to lie buried beneath ash and radiation.
Six weeks ago the radiation abruptly disappeared. Why remains unknown. News of this spread quickly, and scavengers from across the wastes have come to find what lies within the Secret City...
---
In the course of the last four months it has been made probable through the work of Joliot in France as well as Fermi and Szilard in America--that it may be possible to set up a nuclear chain reaction in a large mass of uranium, by which vast amounts of power and large quantities of new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.
This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable--though much less certain--that extremely powerful bombs of this type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
Albert Einstein,
in a letter to Franklin Delano Roosevelt
August 2nd, 1939
This is a story about the future feared by America during the 1950's. At that time the technology to utterly destroy the world had only recently been devised, and it was not yet (and perhaps still is not yet ) clear whether nuclear Armageddon would occur between east and west. At that time the effects of radiation was not yet understood. Yet also at that time the future seemed to hold boundless promise, a bright dream - and a dark nightmare.
Fallout is about both of these. The timeline diverges from our own with the death of Mao Tse Tsung during the Liaoshen campaign in late 1948 (An event that did not occur in our world). The result of this single event was to cause the Chinese civil war to last much longer than it did such that by the Korean War the Chinese could not interfere and the United States won a decisive victory rather than having the war come to a stalemate to change the attitudes of the nation. The ramifications of this single even escalate until the timeline becomes unrecognizable to us. By 2077 the Great War, what we would call World War III, is fought and ended in a matter of hours.
Our story begins fifty years later. The year is 2127. The place, what we know as eastern Tennessee, what the world of Fallout knows as the District of Franklin, an area set aside for military training and experiments in the 1960's after the reorganization of the 50 states back into 13 super states. The action centers around Knoxville, the only civilian city left in Franklin, and the Secret City.
For in the Fallout continuity, the existence of Oak Ridge is never acknowledged. Further, rather than being downsized after the second World War, it's size and complexity increased with the years. It became a scientific military city which everyone knew existed - unofficially at least - yet no one knew existed to any certitude for it was on no map nor in any public log. By the time of the Great War it was one of the largest cities in the east, the base of operations for the US Nuclear Weapons Bombers and missiles, and the most important target of the Chinese, so much so that a third of their arsenal was thrown upon it. Nothing survived, or so it seemed. An impenetrable cloud of extreme radiation settled on Bethel valley and seeped into the surrounding towns.
But beneath the Secret City legends say lay another. If Vault Tec could afford to build hundreds of vaults to protect civilian assets, could not the military do the same? Especially since no one had any knowledge of any goings on within the Secret City for the 130 years before the Great War. Shouldn't there be a City beneath the one the Chinese destroyed? Could it have survived? No one knows.
Perhaps you'll be the one to find out.
Fallout: The Secret City
War... War never changes.
Everything has a beginning. Even the end.
Hidden in the sleepy hills of east Tennessee lies a city that does not exist. Built to refine the materials necessary to create the atomic bomb, its existence was never made public to the world. It was here that the bomb was made. It was here the enemy struck hardest. It is here the greatest secrets of the lost age are said to lie buried beneath ash and radiation.
Six weeks ago the radiation abruptly disappeared. Why remains unknown. News of this spread quickly, and scavengers from across the wastes have come to find what lies within the Secret City...
---
In the course of the last four months it has been made probable through the work of Joliot in France as well as Fermi and Szilard in America--that it may be possible to set up a nuclear chain reaction in a large mass of uranium, by which vast amounts of power and large quantities of new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.
This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable--though much less certain--that extremely powerful bombs of this type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
Albert Einstein,
in a letter to Franklin Delano Roosevelt
August 2nd, 1939
This is a story about the future feared by America during the 1950's. At that time the technology to utterly destroy the world had only recently been devised, and it was not yet (and perhaps still is not yet ) clear whether nuclear Armageddon would occur between east and west. At that time the effects of radiation was not yet understood. Yet also at that time the future seemed to hold boundless promise, a bright dream - and a dark nightmare.
Fallout is about both of these. The timeline diverges from our own with the death of Mao Tse Tsung during the Liaoshen campaign in late 1948 (An event that did not occur in our world). The result of this single event was to cause the Chinese civil war to last much longer than it did such that by the Korean War the Chinese could not interfere and the United States won a decisive victory rather than having the war come to a stalemate to change the attitudes of the nation. The ramifications of this single even escalate until the timeline becomes unrecognizable to us. By 2077 the Great War, what we would call World War III, is fought and ended in a matter of hours.
Our story begins fifty years later. The year is 2127. The place, what we know as eastern Tennessee, what the world of Fallout knows as the District of Franklin, an area set aside for military training and experiments in the 1960's after the reorganization of the 50 states back into 13 super states. The action centers around Knoxville, the only civilian city left in Franklin, and the Secret City.
For in the Fallout continuity, the existence of Oak Ridge is never acknowledged. Further, rather than being downsized after the second World War, it's size and complexity increased with the years. It became a scientific military city which everyone knew existed - unofficially at least - yet no one knew existed to any certitude for it was on no map nor in any public log. By the time of the Great War it was one of the largest cities in the east, the base of operations for the US Nuclear Weapons Bombers and missiles, and the most important target of the Chinese, so much so that a third of their arsenal was thrown upon it. Nothing survived, or so it seemed. An impenetrable cloud of extreme radiation settled on Bethel valley and seeped into the surrounding towns.
But beneath the Secret City legends say lay another. If Vault Tec could afford to build hundreds of vaults to protect civilian assets, could not the military do the same? Especially since no one had any knowledge of any goings on within the Secret City for the 130 years before the Great War. Shouldn't there be a City beneath the one the Chinese destroyed? Could it have survived? No one knows.
Perhaps you'll be the one to find out.