What would happen in your area in Fallout
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DarkCorp
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Maybe not, if the UK was substantially handi-capped, the catholics/nationalists might sieze the chance at finally uniting the whole of Ireland. Considering the numbers situation, I think the nationalists would win.
Crazy Joe Wilson
First time out of the vault
Bear with me, I feel a little bit of writing coming on.
Ohio. In an America that was as American as can be, Ohio in the 1950s was an indrustrial juggernaut of the country. Second only to Michigan in terms of manufacturing output, Ohioans in the urbanized areas of the state enjoyed the idealized high standard of living that typified the World of Tomorrow. It was probably a shock to most Ohioans when the United States restructured itself in the early 2000s into 13 more autonomous states, and the hard-working, true blue Ohioans were put together with the more southernly states of Kentucky and Tennessee. Although most decisions in the last century of politics in the United States made little sense to those at the time or who are today fortunate enough to be able to read about it, the Commonwealth Ohio was pitted in was bound to have repercussions down the road.
Come the Great War of 2077, Ohio was a target for many of the nukes launched on the 23rd. While its neighboring steel rival Pittsburgh was spared any direct hits, Cleveland, along with the other big cities of Ohio; Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, and Toledo, were struck and subsequently devastated. The resulting fallout poisoned the many rivers of Ohio; the Cuyahoga, Miami, Tuscaroras. Adding in the heavy pollution wrought by Ohio's prized industries, and for some decades after what little uncontaminated water sources were still left were the only spots of human life that could be found. Groups of nomads quickly developed, and legends of the Browns, Bengals, and Bluejacket tribes quickly developed as they struck into neighboring regions for better provisions.
Eventually, intense sources of radiation faded, and those first erstwhile tribes and other survivalist groups began to consolidate. In the pre-war era Ohio had always been able to present a united front to other states, acting as the most 'American state' of America. The truth was much more fragmented, and it showed in the societies that developed post-war. Settlement patterns of Ohio in the 1800s had led to three distinct areas of the state; New Englanders in the North, Pennsylvanian/New Jersey Quakers and neighbors in the middle, and Virginians and Kentuckians in the South. Ohio's inclusion into a Commonwealth with Kentucky and Tennessee had served as a catalyst to a revival of these sectional differences.
Three distinct groups arose by thr mid 2100s, centering around the ruins of Cleveland, Columbus, and Cinncinnati. The Kingdom of Cleve, a feudal-based society stretching along the banks of Lake Erie, and ruled by a King and a motley group of nobles, was one of the first states to arise, but very sporadically. It's origins lie almost right after the Great War, when a group of families who had survived in a private nuclear shelter raided the nearby Ravenna Arsenal, a WWII-era bunker. There they found a storage vault of Power Armor, and used those and the various weapons they uncovered there to defend their established land. Eventually, survivors and local tribes came to them for protection, and the Power Armor-clad families allowed them to live on and near their lands in exchange for part of whatever they could eke out on the devastated landscape. As time went, the Power Armor and Weapons became more and more precious to the families, symbols of their heraldry and status, although the means to manufacture and repair them was a lost art. As the Kingdom's population grew, manufacturing of simple tools and goods resurfaced, and the Cleveland area began to be known for industry once more.
The Republic of Columbus, centered around its namesake, took a different path. The seat of the old Ohio State Government, those survivors who settled around the area, led by the fabled Bluejackets, came to emulate the politics of the old, and banded together with any tribe that would agree. A chaotic but functioning sort of democracy rose out of the area, and the Republic of Columbus declared itself a successor to the American politics of old, working tirelessly toward rebuilding society to what it was before the Great War. Given Columbus' central location in the state, it acts as the go-betweens for all the local powers in the area, and its stance towards them all is only as expect able as what day it is. That said, The Republic has done a good job building itself back up, and though it lacks the heavy industry of the Kingdom of Cleveland or the nearby Pitt, it produces the majority of foodstuffs for the area. As such, its population dwarfs most nearby states.
Cinncin (or, Sinnsin as people from Cleve write it) was also founded like the Kingdom by a few select families, but instead of using the Knight of Europe for inspiration, the families of Cinncin took to a lifestyle much more akin to the Southern Aristocracy of the prebellum American south. Given its situation right on the Ohio river, which after the Great War and the loss of most mechanized forms of transportation became the prime way of transporting anything of importance, Cinncin became a commercial hub to the area. The first tribes of the area after the war took particular pride in their enslavement processes, and after those most important tribes became "more sophisticated", the focus on slavery stuck. A slave that has ended up in The Pitt has over a 50% chance to have spent time in the Cinncin barrows that line their shore. During much of its statehood however, Cinncin's principal efforts have directed it towards the former areas of Kentucky, and away from the rest of Ohio.
As of the late 2200s, there is uneasy peace between the major states of Ohio.
Ohio. In an America that was as American as can be, Ohio in the 1950s was an indrustrial juggernaut of the country. Second only to Michigan in terms of manufacturing output, Ohioans in the urbanized areas of the state enjoyed the idealized high standard of living that typified the World of Tomorrow. It was probably a shock to most Ohioans when the United States restructured itself in the early 2000s into 13 more autonomous states, and the hard-working, true blue Ohioans were put together with the more southernly states of Kentucky and Tennessee. Although most decisions in the last century of politics in the United States made little sense to those at the time or who are today fortunate enough to be able to read about it, the Commonwealth Ohio was pitted in was bound to have repercussions down the road.
Come the Great War of 2077, Ohio was a target for many of the nukes launched on the 23rd. While its neighboring steel rival Pittsburgh was spared any direct hits, Cleveland, along with the other big cities of Ohio; Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, and Toledo, were struck and subsequently devastated. The resulting fallout poisoned the many rivers of Ohio; the Cuyahoga, Miami, Tuscaroras. Adding in the heavy pollution wrought by Ohio's prized industries, and for some decades after what little uncontaminated water sources were still left were the only spots of human life that could be found. Groups of nomads quickly developed, and legends of the Browns, Bengals, and Bluejacket tribes quickly developed as they struck into neighboring regions for better provisions.
Eventually, intense sources of radiation faded, and those first erstwhile tribes and other survivalist groups began to consolidate. In the pre-war era Ohio had always been able to present a united front to other states, acting as the most 'American state' of America. The truth was much more fragmented, and it showed in the societies that developed post-war. Settlement patterns of Ohio in the 1800s had led to three distinct areas of the state; New Englanders in the North, Pennsylvanian/New Jersey Quakers and neighbors in the middle, and Virginians and Kentuckians in the South. Ohio's inclusion into a Commonwealth with Kentucky and Tennessee had served as a catalyst to a revival of these sectional differences.
Three distinct groups arose by thr mid 2100s, centering around the ruins of Cleveland, Columbus, and Cinncinnati. The Kingdom of Cleve, a feudal-based society stretching along the banks of Lake Erie, and ruled by a King and a motley group of nobles, was one of the first states to arise, but very sporadically. It's origins lie almost right after the Great War, when a group of families who had survived in a private nuclear shelter raided the nearby Ravenna Arsenal, a WWII-era bunker. There they found a storage vault of Power Armor, and used those and the various weapons they uncovered there to defend their established land. Eventually, survivors and local tribes came to them for protection, and the Power Armor-clad families allowed them to live on and near their lands in exchange for part of whatever they could eke out on the devastated landscape. As time went, the Power Armor and Weapons became more and more precious to the families, symbols of their heraldry and status, although the means to manufacture and repair them was a lost art. As the Kingdom's population grew, manufacturing of simple tools and goods resurfaced, and the Cleveland area began to be known for industry once more.
The Republic of Columbus, centered around its namesake, took a different path. The seat of the old Ohio State Government, those survivors who settled around the area, led by the fabled Bluejackets, came to emulate the politics of the old, and banded together with any tribe that would agree. A chaotic but functioning sort of democracy rose out of the area, and the Republic of Columbus declared itself a successor to the American politics of old, working tirelessly toward rebuilding society to what it was before the Great War. Given Columbus' central location in the state, it acts as the go-betweens for all the local powers in the area, and its stance towards them all is only as expect able as what day it is. That said, The Republic has done a good job building itself back up, and though it lacks the heavy industry of the Kingdom of Cleveland or the nearby Pitt, it produces the majority of foodstuffs for the area. As such, its population dwarfs most nearby states.
Cinncin (or, Sinnsin as people from Cleve write it) was also founded like the Kingdom by a few select families, but instead of using the Knight of Europe for inspiration, the families of Cinncin took to a lifestyle much more akin to the Southern Aristocracy of the prebellum American south. Given its situation right on the Ohio river, which after the Great War and the loss of most mechanized forms of transportation became the prime way of transporting anything of importance, Cinncin became a commercial hub to the area. The first tribes of the area after the war took particular pride in their enslavement processes, and after those most important tribes became "more sophisticated", the focus on slavery stuck. A slave that has ended up in The Pitt has over a 50% chance to have spent time in the Cinncin barrows that line their shore. During much of its statehood however, Cinncin's principal efforts have directed it towards the former areas of Kentucky, and away from the rest of Ohio.
As of the late 2200s, there is uneasy peace between the major states of Ohio.
Knight Captain Kerr
Still Mildly Glowing
DarkCorp said:
I also think they would "England's difficulty is Ireland's opportunity" and whatnot.
zaopatrzeniowiec
First time out of the vault
My country - Poland - has no value in global buisnes. It is small and unequipped country without solid army or economy. Due to that it is no threat. It could avoid bombarding at all or take onlt one or two bombs there there are some spare for casual countreis who are no matter at all. People on north pole will live too. Also Mdagaskar, Tasmania, Micronesia, Islandia, Salvador will be safe.
Surf Solar
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
zaopatrzeniowiec said:
I doubt Poland would be sparsed, quite the contrary. In the Cold War, many many rockets were aimed at Poland, it would be one of the first countries to be bombed, just like eastern germany back then to make it easier for soviet troops to proceed through the lands. Now, we're having this nuclear missile shield installed in this area in our times - they would be a first priority target too. Polands "fault" was always that it lays amidst bigger countries who would clash each other occasionally.
As for safe countries like Iceland, Tasmania etc - doubtful. There is the nuclear fallout travelling with the wind, a (possible) nuclear winter, collapse of economy and all that. We're pretty much fucked in such a scenario in every possible way.
zaopatrzeniowiec
First time out of the vault
Yeh, but you know... Then Poland was a great country. People had courage and passion. There were people who could sacrifice themselvs for thier families. Besides Poland was already involved military in mny cases and our jets nad tanks were ones of the most finest. Now there are basicly stupid retards who listen to mtv and eat on mcdonalds.
If any rocket will hit Poland the only reason for that it will be that our politicians sold thier souls to the devil and allowed to place there anti rocket shield bateries. Besides Poland is a part of the Europa Union and have comon buisnes. It will be destroy by screwed economy. Dude, our leaders have no idea how to invest money, support technological progres or create a work places. They just drink vodka all day for our money and borrow money from other countries to buy old crapy american military vehicles and spend a lots of money to repair that pieces of junk. We dont need any rockets. We need just some time. Its a matter of 50 year to drive country to bottom of hell. Anyway probably half of Europa will end like that if I can believe whats going on on economy level in the world.
Polands 'fault' was not to lay betwen the giants. This country conquers them all for houndrets of years. This country was in 500% as todays size. Polands fault was the leaders who sold country for pleasures.
About radiation passing seas with wind... Winds is not a direct hit. I still think people living on heavy snowy area, on small islands and in mountains will be the most safe people on the world.
If any rocket will hit Poland the only reason for that it will be that our politicians sold thier souls to the devil and allowed to place there anti rocket shield bateries. Besides Poland is a part of the Europa Union and have comon buisnes. It will be destroy by screwed economy. Dude, our leaders have no idea how to invest money, support technological progres or create a work places. They just drink vodka all day for our money and borrow money from other countries to buy old crapy american military vehicles and spend a lots of money to repair that pieces of junk. We dont need any rockets. We need just some time. Its a matter of 50 year to drive country to bottom of hell. Anyway probably half of Europa will end like that if I can believe whats going on on economy level in the world.
Polands 'fault' was not to lay betwen the giants. This country conquers them all for houndrets of years. This country was in 500% as todays size. Polands fault was the leaders who sold country for pleasures.
About radiation passing seas with wind... Winds is not a direct hit. I still think people living on heavy snowy area, on small islands and in mountains will be the most safe people on the world.
Crazy Joe Wilson
First time out of the vault
Surf Solar said:
Poland might not have been hit too teribly. In Fallout's timeline, the rivalry between the U.S.S.A. and U.S.S.R were supposed to have cooled, while the rivalry between the U.S.S.A and China were what sparked the Nuclear exchange. Many missles might have been directed to different places because of that.
South London.
Of course South London would be bombed, but I came out with a theory: London is filled with Underground stations. When the bombs fell, several flocked to North Greenwich, where they would soon scavenge supplies from the Millenium Dome. Eventually, one group survived, and then formed a tribe. They rebuilt the area around the since destroyed dome, renaming it Millenium City. The City was one of the last beacons of hope in all London, let alone the South.
Soon, food and water began running out, so the group sent further scouts out, marking new land under Millenium City. It became known that land almost as far as Surrey was united under the Dome. Soon, however, another tribe, ones from further North (Essex) made their mark as well, colonizing North London. This tribe, known as The Thunder Rocks, attempted to set up Military Posts around the Thames. Tensions rose, but the groups remained friendly.
There came a point where the group from Millenium City looked Eastward, towards the remains of Kent, with Greenhithe being the main motive. Around the same time, however, the Thunder Rocks attempted the same thing. Whilst the Thunder Rocks were closer to the area, the Millenium City Military certainly had the numbers advantage. War broke around the river, with it leading to a massive loss of lives on both sides. Whilst things began leading to a stalemate in London, a third group splintered from protesters of the war. This group attempted to negotiate with the other two to stop the war. Whilst unsuccessfull, they decided to then use brute force, and occupy the Queen Elizabeth II bridge.
Unable to now take Kent, the Thunder Rocks negotiated a treaty with Millenium, allowing them to take the area. However, tensions are still high between the groups, and war could break out again at any time.
Of course South London would be bombed, but I came out with a theory: London is filled with Underground stations. When the bombs fell, several flocked to North Greenwich, where they would soon scavenge supplies from the Millenium Dome. Eventually, one group survived, and then formed a tribe. They rebuilt the area around the since destroyed dome, renaming it Millenium City. The City was one of the last beacons of hope in all London, let alone the South.
Soon, food and water began running out, so the group sent further scouts out, marking new land under Millenium City. It became known that land almost as far as Surrey was united under the Dome. Soon, however, another tribe, ones from further North (Essex) made their mark as well, colonizing North London. This tribe, known as The Thunder Rocks, attempted to set up Military Posts around the Thames. Tensions rose, but the groups remained friendly.
There came a point where the group from Millenium City looked Eastward, towards the remains of Kent, with Greenhithe being the main motive. Around the same time, however, the Thunder Rocks attempted the same thing. Whilst the Thunder Rocks were closer to the area, the Millenium City Military certainly had the numbers advantage. War broke around the river, with it leading to a massive loss of lives on both sides. Whilst things began leading to a stalemate in London, a third group splintered from protesters of the war. This group attempted to negotiate with the other two to stop the war. Whilst unsuccessfull, they decided to then use brute force, and occupy the Queen Elizabeth II bridge.
Unable to now take Kent, the Thunder Rocks negotiated a treaty with Millenium, allowing them to take the area. However, tensions are still high between the groups, and war could break out again at any time.
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TorontoReign
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Oklahoma would be hit around Mcalester and Lawton mainly. I suppose Tulsa and OKC would be targeted due to them being the largest cities in the state. The resulting Fallout would severely damage the already drought stricken region. The resulting chaos following the nuclear attack would kill those unprepared for self-sustainability. Those farmers that are well armed would only provide for themselves, or their own tight-knit communities. Those who have no useful skills would either die, or be used by others.
I suspect Cannibalism might become a problem due to many not knowing how to provide for themselves without electricity or running water. That would go for any part of the world though.
Any towns that weren't completely wiped out would be forced to cooperate, possibly banding together local militias, and even establishing local governments. If no COG took over after the war then gangs might run amok. It would be up to militias to defend themselves. Military equipment would probably be left over, so many would go scavenging for weapons, ammo, supplies, etc.....
Without any working communication the world would be forced to rely on antiquated methods; such as riding on horseback to deliver messages. Fuel would probably be too valuable to waste needlessly.
I think Oklahoma would be relatively tame compared to other parts of the US, but nevertheless very much changed.
I suspect Cannibalism might become a problem due to many not knowing how to provide for themselves without electricity or running water. That would go for any part of the world though.
Any towns that weren't completely wiped out would be forced to cooperate, possibly banding together local militias, and even establishing local governments. If no COG took over after the war then gangs might run amok. It would be up to militias to defend themselves. Military equipment would probably be left over, so many would go scavenging for weapons, ammo, supplies, etc.....
Without any working communication the world would be forced to rely on antiquated methods; such as riding on horseback to deliver messages. Fuel would probably be too valuable to waste needlessly.
I think Oklahoma would be relatively tame compared to other parts of the US, but nevertheless very much changed.
LoneSpektre
First time out of the vault
I live in Windsor, Ontario. We share a border with Detroit. Windsor has no reason to be bombed because we're just a blue collar automotive city. Even though Detroit is an auto-city as well I can see a nuke hitting that area and since were in the blast radius we'd be wiped out as well. So Windsor would be rubble and infested with radiation.
BOS_Warlord
First time out of the vault
Toronto would get leveled with radiation, and I bet the sun would get blocked out leaving me in a winter wasteland. Probably Ghouls, Mutant Squirrels and whatevers left in our zoo would mutate. Id just have to keep warm and armed
Liverpool,
OK Liverpool is a Sea Port, a airport, a very large Territorial Army detachment (ranging from infantry right up to artillery and a water fairy detachment), a fair number of heavy production factory's (car's, plastics and pharmaceutical) and a decent amount of international telecoms infrastructure and over on the Wirral we have Camel Laird (large military capable ship yard).
On that basis I believe Liverpool would be very much a priority target, so about the only "safe" areas in the city would be either the Williamson Tunnels, or the Anglican Grave yard, or people in the area my folks live in the Netherley vally area at least from the initial blast-wave.
Long term I don't see much in the way of habitation on any large community scale, maybe the odd pocket of what would pass for civilization. With the direct hit's the area would take and the fresh influx of radiation from upriver due to the River Mersey pulling in radiation form Manchester and Warrington down river I doubt there would be much in the way of clean radiation free water, I could see maybe short term occupation by salvage gangs, or raiders trying to get hold of equipment from the various TA barracks in the area.
Further out from the Liverpool region in the first few weeks of a nuclear conflict I can see the distribution warehouses of Tesco, Morrison's and Asda getting plundered, then say a year or two after the area starting to be left to mostly depopulate say down to 20% of current levels, then say 100 years or so later the area getting repopulated from the Manchester area looking for ground they can cultivate possibly depopulating the local populace of the decedents of refugee scousers and local woolly backs.
OK Liverpool is a Sea Port, a airport, a very large Territorial Army detachment (ranging from infantry right up to artillery and a water fairy detachment), a fair number of heavy production factory's (car's, plastics and pharmaceutical) and a decent amount of international telecoms infrastructure and over on the Wirral we have Camel Laird (large military capable ship yard).
On that basis I believe Liverpool would be very much a priority target, so about the only "safe" areas in the city would be either the Williamson Tunnels, or the Anglican Grave yard, or people in the area my folks live in the Netherley vally area at least from the initial blast-wave.
Long term I don't see much in the way of habitation on any large community scale, maybe the odd pocket of what would pass for civilization. With the direct hit's the area would take and the fresh influx of radiation from upriver due to the River Mersey pulling in radiation form Manchester and Warrington down river I doubt there would be much in the way of clean radiation free water, I could see maybe short term occupation by salvage gangs, or raiders trying to get hold of equipment from the various TA barracks in the area.
Further out from the Liverpool region in the first few weeks of a nuclear conflict I can see the distribution warehouses of Tesco, Morrison's and Asda getting plundered, then say a year or two after the area starting to be left to mostly depopulate say down to 20% of current levels, then say 100 years or so later the area getting repopulated from the Manchester area looking for ground they can cultivate possibly depopulating the local populace of the decedents of refugee scousers and local woolly backs.