You know this debate is just going to end with me shouting "Za dom" and ignore you.
Interesting as a study of how many plotholes you can fit into a story without giving the player stupidity-induced hemorrhage?
Cimmerian Nights said:This is why I never get the ET hate. Yeah, ET sucked, but look at it's contemporaries. I don't remember ET being anymore outstandingly shitty than Adventure or Combat or your typical Atari fare.
Ratty said:Interesting as a study of how many plotholes you can fit into a story without giving the player stupidity-induced hemorrhage?Dragula said:No. Fun like playing a fun game with an interesting story despite being filled with clichés.
Khan FurSainty said:Every game that requires you to shut off your brain, in order to enjoy it, is bad.
MoO3, micromanagement in space. I only played the first few turns in that but you have to control such minor details that I seem to remember turns taking like an hour (I think that's an exaggeration) at the start.Flop said:Master of Orion 3 is definitely one of the worst games I remember playing. Usually I stop playing pretty fast if I'm not enjoying a game, but I really wanted MoO3 to be good, so I kept playing, hoping it would get better, but no luck.
I guess a big part of whether a game is perceived as good or bad comes down to (shattered) expectations.
UncannyGarlic said:MoO3, micromanagement in space. I only played the first few turns in that but you have to control such minor details that I seem to remember turns taking like an hour (I think that's an exaggeration) at the start.
They really need to either make a MoM2 or remake the original, enhancing the interface and adding in multiplayer. It's always pissed me off that that game is singleplayer only
Only at being obnoxious.Ratty said:In other words, I'll win.
Fffffffuck that game. I played through the whole game since it's not as if I could return the fucking thing to the store, and it was complete and total assballs the whole way through. The crusades level where you trudge through the moat/trench or whatever and encounter that giant beast that takes a QTE to beat? I thought "Oh neat, some variation! Finally!" And then there were about four or five more of the fucking things right after and they had to be defeated in the exact same way. EXCITING. And that ending, oh god. You defeat the big bad, and then Steve Blum/Spike Spiegel shouts "JERICHO, SWIM DEEP!" or something and that's pretty much it. What a god damn disappointment.beans00 said:clive barkers jericho
Sure, at that time...UniversalWolf said:Cimmerian Nights said:This is why I never get the ET hate. Yeah, ET sucked, but look at it's contemporaries. I don't remember ET being anymore outstandingly shitty than Adventure or Combat or your typical Atari fare.
I disagree completely. I loved Adventure and Combat was very fun against a human opponent. I can name a bunch of games that were better than ET right off the top of my head (River Raid, Pitfall, Barnstorming, etc.).
I think that's an indictment of the gaming industry as a whole though. ET is just the first high profile example of this.UniversalWolf said:Then again, I hated ET the movie, so I'm biased. I think the game gets a big strike for being such a crass piece of profiteering off the movie - and sucking so bad.
Luckily I have a friend who collects Atari 2600 games, so I've played a few within the last ten years.Cimmerian Nights said:Sure, at that time...
If I came over your house now with an Atari and a box full of games, I wonder how high your Pitfall tolerance threshold really is.