As someone else said, extremists of all types are both annoying as hell, and neither one is worse--they are both just as bad. I also find it highly annoying how someone comes on the forum, posts a discussion about FO3, and they get accused of being trolls. That kinda stuff grates on my nerves too--it's like being told you are a troll because you have an opinion that differs from the mainstream (and the mainstream at NMA is that FO3/NV suck and FO1 and 2 are the gods of the gaming industry). Personally, I love all 4 of the games (haven't gotten into Tactics yet). While one can argue the point of whether or not FO3 and New Vegas are genuine RPGs, they are still Fallout, they have RP elements to them, they definitely keep to the spirit of the series. They are new, they drew new attention to Fallout, and regardless of whether you think FO3 and NV suck ass or are amazing games, if you like Fallout, you ought to appreciate the fact that the series has been given new life. We fans of the old games may yet get that one amazing gem we've been waiting for that blends the best of the new generation with that of the old generation--we just have to be patient. I believe it will happen eventually, maybe with the next Fallout game, maybe it will take a few. It will come--and when it does, we have Fallout 3 and Bethesda to thank for it. I'm going to go ahead and get in my fire-retardant suit now, and maybe call the fire department because that's probably going to piss people off, but it is what it is. Both extremists on either side need to chill and remember, it's a game for one, and people are allowed to have differing opinions for two--without having their heads lopped off.