Who is heir to the Enclave

Considering the guy that recorded ED-E's logs doesn't even know that Navarra was destroyed I don't think ge can take those logs as any proof of the Enclave still kicking, and I would prefer if they are not. I don't understand that obsession fans of certain works have with the same characters and stories beign rehashed over and over again even when their story is over.
Begin again and Let Go people.
 
Even if the enclave have to appear in new Fallout game then us it in fresh and unexpected way. Like BoS in Fallout Tactics. From Isolationists and guardians of tech into growing nazie-like force.

Or better yet. Let protogonist be a member of enclave. A spy send into the wasteland.

Encleve can be used in smart way. I`m just not sure if Bethesda is capable of doing so.
 
Interesting points everyone is making, not at all related to the question but interesting, last me ask it again, if you were to ask john henry eden who would be best for the united states of america in new vegas who would it be? House, NCR, Legion, ect i don't feel like listing every minor faction.
 
Mistrz said:
Even if the enclave have to appear in new Fallout game then us it in fresh and unexpected way. Like BoS in Fallout Tactics. From Isolationists and guardians of tech into growing nazie-like force.

Or better yet. Let protogonist be a member of enclave. A spy send into the wasteland.

Encleve can be used in smart way. I`m just not sure if Bethesda is capable of doing so.
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I really like the way you think.
 
First of all, above all the writing, factions, characters and whatever else they try to make, they should choose a more decent engine, because I'm sure everyone is tired of, and is seriously flawed as hell.

Hell, I'd rather play a Fallout game on a Steam engine, it would bring so much joy from Half Life and Vampire the Masquerade back again.
 
Using the source engine would be super inefficient and combined with a shitload of long loading times.
 
I always wanted to see more games done with the Arma 2 engine. Because it might be exactly the kind of thing for a game that is trying to "simulate" or "draw" a huge landscape.
 
Skyrim engine looks promising. And as Zenimax owns id Software now (sadly), usage of IdTech 5 wouldn't be a problem (that engine is OUTSTANDING! hell yeah for Megatexture :D). But usage of Skyrim engine in upcoming Fallout games is more likely due to Bethesda's devs knowledge of the engine, tools and recycling of certain assets (just like in GameBryo, F3 and NV used human meshes from Oblivion with minor shader tweaks (anyway, if Bethesda's 3d artists are going to use the same technique that they were using in Morrowind, Oblivion, F3 (and Obsidian inherited from them), I mean every body part - head, hands, arms, legs - as separate object, I am going to finally fucking kill them. WHAT A RETARD MODELS CHARACTERS LIKE THAT?!)

Edit: @guys above: making a game is not just about having an engine - the engine must be adequate to the kind of game you're making. For example, it is possible to make an RPG in Unreal Engine 3, but it's way too much work for most, as UE3 is best suited to various shooters. Making an RPG (or RTS) in it is way harder than in in engine made especially for that - like Gamebryo - as it means writing new tools from scratch and coping with many limitations of the engine itself. And this means no RPGs in Source (shit's old too, there's not much to squeeze out of it now).
 
All that's left of the Enclave out west is 4 geriatrics, a cool facility, a Verti-Bird, some power armor and a middle-aged scientist.

Still, their actions at Hoover Damn- and their ability to run away from the Legion and kill 100s of Legionaries if the Legion decides to go after them- shows a lot of potential.

They could always still exist but as a minor faction similar to the BOS only much more secretive.
 
That's what they were to begin with in Fallout 2. Fallout 3 changed them from a small secretive organization to a large army trying to take over the Capital wasteland for some reason. (They probably just wanted all those supermarkets stocked with edible 200 year old food)
 
I probably wouldn't mind something similar to what Mistrz said: the Enclave reappearing in an unexpected way. Or maybe just a group of Enclave remnants who formed a small local power... but I don't think Bethesda is going to do something like that, so maybe it'd be best if Enclave was gone forever. I actually found it quite silly to have to fight against them "again" in Fallout 3 (like Atomkilla said already).

Guys, I don't know about you, but I really miss the Shi. Of course, I don't exactly want them to be the baddies (read: I don't want Bethesda to make a game in which you gotta pew pew them Chinese! to save the wasteland), but I certainly want the Shi back as a powerful faction.
 
Does the OP mean as a major series villian or canonically?

Personally I would say that the Enclave, in all but name (though even that was debatable before F3), died when the bombs dropped. The Enclave as a shadow-government, powerful people usurping and abusding legal authority for a secret, common agenda, really become obselete when they actually became the government and not so much the secret puppet masters as the actual legimate leaders. The wiki says that the Enclave are the decendants of the US Government and powerful corporations? Well really it's the other way around, with the entire US being composed, officially, of the decendants of the Enclave members who retreated to the Oil Rig.

RE ED-E's logs, I would simply say that the reference to Navarro was because Whitley didn't know that Navarro had been captured, why? Eden classified it for the sake of moral, much like the early deaths ascociated with APA testing.

RE The Enclave coming back, I hope not; not even in some fresh way. I personally would sooner see the Enclave dead than be bitches to the mainlanders.

Oh and they aren't facsists/Nazis (not that the terms are synonamous anyway).

EDIT: I thought people on here thought that the Fallout Bible was canon? It says that the Enclave retreated all over the world (something which I have to contest frequently on the Bethesda forums who want the Enclave resurected).
 
The Fallout Bible is only canon as long as it doesn't contradict anything said in the canon games.
 
Yeah ... and the sad thing is Bethesda can take the games and screw Canon as much as they want. (which they did already in a few places).

So ... if they think it is "cool" we will see the Enclave fighting for another strange project in Fallout 4.
 
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