Among the most idiotic statement to come out of our bastard cousin to the north since Brian Adams faded in popularity.There’s a huge difference between anti-semitisim and anti-zionisim
Not necessarily, depends how it's worded. Plus, you can correct someone without calling them a liar. (Note I don't agree with holocaust deniers, but I really don't know enough about the holocaust to accurately quote figures, nor do most people) EDIT - Just re-read this, if someone says that "few" (as in not many) Jews were killed, you are right, but if someone says "Fewer" then my point holds.ConstipatedCraprunner said:Saying that few Jews died during the holocaust is minimizing it's effect and calling the jews liars; thus it's anti-Jewish and anti-semetic.
Based on one German all Euros (sic) suck?CCR said:You Euros suck
Among the most idiotic statement to come out of our bastard cousin to the north since Brian Adams faded in popularity.
Let's see, according to Europe: A History, the following numbers are available:I have simply stated that there are some facts that suggest that much smaller number of Jews were actually killed during WW2.
Da wird nicht mehr wie üblich geflunkert, da wird schon handfest geschwindelt, denn die sensationellen neuen Erkenntnisse, die "Licht ins Dunkel" bringen, sind allesamt alte Kamellen, die bis jetzt von revisionistischen Autoren und rechtsextremen Zeitschriften immer wieder ausgewalzt wurden, um die Nazis zu entlasten. Jetzt hat der Revisionismus den verlegerischen Mainstream erreicht. Während die Nazis eine großherzige Auswanderungpolitik betrieben und sogar kostenlose Transporte in den Osten anboten, hat die "restriktive Einwanderungspolitik" der US-Regierung Zehntausende von Juden das Leben gekostet.
In it, they don't tell fibs like it's common use, they blatantly lie, because the sensational new knowledge who "bring light into the dark", are without exception old news, who until now where put down in right-extremistic magazines by their revisionistic authors to exonerate the Nazis. Now, revisionism has reached the publishing mainstream. While the Nazis engaged in a big-hearted emigration policy and even offered free transports in the East, the US government's "restrictive immigration policy" meant the death of ten thousands of Jews.
I think it's absurd that anti-Zionism just happened to sprout out of the same areas that where most fervent in anti-Semetism and that saying the Jews lied about the number of people killed is any diffirent then saying that the holocaust did'nt happen at all. It's all shades of anti-Semetism.PS: CCR, you should stop going off at everyone slayin the slightest bad thing about Jews as "anti-Zionist" or "anti-Semite". That sounds like the old PS screaming "anti-American" at every little argument.
ConstipatedCraprunner said:I did'nt say Spiegel aproved of it. I know it ripped it a new one. I just thought this stuff was still illegal?
Sovz said:As for you Pali,
No one is blaming the Germans anymore, what is done is done. Lets leave it in the past.
Pali said:Anyway, what's still illegal are Nazi symbols of any kind - swastikas, SS runes etc. - if they aren't shown for scientific or documentary purpose.
Ah. That's sensible I suppose.If no court rules it against the Grundgesetz, it ain't illegal.
The thing is, book like this fall into a really gray area. If the researches are true, and they don't write anything that resembles an inflammatory campaign, they're safe. They have no legal consequences to face as long as they say: "Yeah, we were responsible, too!"
Because you yourself have poored over the millions of records of the Nazi death machine?I said that according to some estimation, some people are claming that a lesser number of Jews have been killed, and that some even claim that the total number is roughly around a million. While I do think that the number is smaller then 6Mil, I it is definitely larger then one million.
These are the Nazis we are talking about, not the Rwandans, the Soviets or the Turks. They documented how many times they're dogs took shits. There are more then enough documents to stick more holes in you're rascist notion then in the walls of a bathroom in a San Francisco bar.No one will ever know the exact number since there are no documents available to prove it.
Sovz said:Pali said:Anyway, what's still illegal are Nazi symbols of any kind - swastikas, SS runes etc. - if they aren't shown for scientific or documentary purpose.
Yeah, they even remove those from Ebay
ConstipatedCraprunner said:I think it's absurd that anti-Zionism just happened to sprout out of the same areas that where most fervent in anti-Semetism
ConstipatedCraprunner said:These are the Nazis we are talking about, not the Rwandans, the Soviets or the Turks. They documented how many times they're dogs took shits. There are more then enough documents to stick more holes in you're rascist notion then in the walls of a bathroom in a San Francisco bar.
Jesus dude, what are you doing in Europe? Belgium is'nt France, but seriously....You fool. I'm Jewish, and I'm anti-zionistic.
There's a point there, I admit it. However, it's really, really old Rascism that goes all the way back to when they where in the deserts of modern Iraq.Think about it. They claim to have the right to a country because they're a seperate race.
It's more complex then that. The Palestinians now are, if anything, alot more rascist.Hence: racism. Like living together with other races isn't good enough for them.
ConstipatedCraprunner said:It's more complex then that. The Palestinians now are, if anything, alot more rascist.
No, they are'nt, that's sillly. That's like arguing that German on Polish rascism is impossible because they're both Indo-European.Funny that you say so, since Jews and Arabs are basically the same race, the Semites.
Rascsim by any other name is still detestable. By that definition Nazi rascism is okay because it was a product of Weimer Germany.As for your claim that they are more racist, please go try to live the way they live, lets see how you’ll feel.