Who is really to blame for the Holocaust?
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John Uskglass
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My point exactly. It's totally diffirent from the Semetic group.
They're both Semetic, and they're both members of the same branch (Central-South), but they're not intellegable, and they have diffirent influences.
They're also not the same racially or culturally. The Jews have been influenced racially and culturally in every nation they've been in for 5,000 years.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
How do you speak both Arabic and Hebrew? What dialect of Arabic? Try and talk to the Egyptians, I think you're bullshitting me.
Hebrew did actually start to sound the way its sound until the late1920s’
The Zionists declared that they want to have their own language, so they based it on the language used in the Old Testament, they didn’t even know how it suppose to sound, so they missed an awfully lot of words and meanings, they took the rest from everywhere, Including Arabic, in fact most of it was from Arabic.
This is how the New Hebrew was made. Since no one actually spoke the old one
In fact the old Hebrew is actually an Aramaic, who influenced most of Arabic languages.
So when the first Jews started come to Palestine in 1880’s they were in good relationship with the local arab population, in fact the first jewsish settlement Rishon-lezion had a very good relationship with the local population and they couldn’t survive without their help. Later things got screwed up along the way. But I’m sure you are not interested in this petty history of them, do you?
The Zionists declared that they want to have their own language, so they based it on the language used in the Old Testament, they didn’t even know how it suppose to sound, so they missed an awfully lot of words and meanings, they took the rest from everywhere, Including Arabic, in fact most of it was from Arabic.
This is how the New Hebrew was made. Since no one actually spoke the old one
In fact the old Hebrew is actually an Aramaic, who influenced most of Arabic languages.
So when the first Jews started come to Palestine in 1880’s they were in good relationship with the local arab population, in fact the first jewsish settlement Rishon-lezion had a very good relationship with the local population and they couldn’t survive without their help. Later things got screwed up along the way. But I’m sure you are not interested in this petty history of them, do you?
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Sovz said:Hebrew did actually start to sound the way its sound until the late1920s’
The Zionists declared that they want to have their own language, so they based it on the language used in the Old Testament, they didn’t even know how it suppose to sound, so they missed an awfully lot of words and meanings, they took the rest from everywhere, Including Arabic, in fact most of it was from Arabic.
This is how the New Hebrew was made. Since no one actually spoke the old one
In fact the old Hebrew is actually an Aramaic, who influenced most of Arabic languages.
So when the first Jews started come to Palestine in 1880’s they were in good relationship with the local arab population, in fact the first jewsish settlement Rishon-lezion had a very good relationship with the local population and they couldn’t survive without their help. Later things got screwed up along the way. But I’m sure you are not interested in this petty history of them, do you?
Actually, I am, and I know it pretty well. Very well, I don't smell any bullshit on you're end. Maybe some on mine though.
Tip; just watch Al-Jazeera. That's what my friends who are trying to learn Arabic do. It also inroduces you to alot of diverse dialects.
Of course it's the goddamn Americans fault that the Holocaust happened. If they hadn't interfered in WWI, the Germans wouldn't have lost the war (probably would have stalemated), Hitler would never have risen to power, and 6 million Jews wouldn't have perished. Americans should've kept their fucking noses out of European affairs.
I'd say that it's civilization's fault. That's right, CIVILIZATION!!! If it weren't for civilization there wouldn't be any discontent violent anarchists who feel the need to shoot at archdukes, thus starting a whole chain of events which led to the holocaust. And we all know who started civilization, right? THE SUMERIANS! If it weren't for those damn sumerians, the holocaust never would've happened. If only we could go back in time and nuke mesopotamia, the world would be 6 million jews richer.
Damn right, the anarchists are to blame for everything. Everyone knows that this bunch of no-good losers always bitch about everything. Fucking malcontents. If they could only understand the Right Cause.
I mean, come on. Give me one reason more noble than dieing for some great, honourable flag, one reason more noble than giving one's life to The King?
Tsk, goddamn punks. Misfits to our great society.
I mean, come on. Give me one reason more noble than dieing for some great, honourable flag, one reason more noble than giving one's life to The King?
Tsk, goddamn punks. Misfits to our great society.
I've been giving this more thought, It isnt the fault of any person, country, or group of people....
No... we are all ignoring the one that's TRULY at fault here... The jewish GOD! If he hadnt made the jews so, damned Jewish, there would be NO problem.. Or, perhaps if he made his Jews more durable, you know, armor plate them or somthing the holocaust wouldnt have been an issue.
No... we are all ignoring the one that's TRULY at fault here... The jewish GOD! If he hadnt made the jews so, damned Jewish, there would be NO problem.. Or, perhaps if he made his Jews more durable, you know, armor plate them or somthing the holocaust wouldnt have been an issue.
Bradylama
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Pussy.
Bradylama
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No, I meant... never mind.
I'm going to warp your fragile wittle mind.
I'm going to warp your fragile wittle mind.
So says the man with an avatar/signature combination from a show Trekkies make fun of.
I agree with Elissar though, all the fault of the Jewish God. Why didn't he give Hitler a good hit with a lightning bolt, or turn him to a pillar of salt (or some other biblical method of divine death)? I think the Jews should go to court to divorce him, clearly a negligent God.
I agree with Elissar though, all the fault of the Jewish God. Why didn't he give Hitler a good hit with a lightning bolt, or turn him to a pillar of salt (or some other biblical method of divine death)? I think the Jews should go to court to divorce him, clearly a negligent God.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Considering that in the entire world maybe less then 0.1% of the population considers themselves "anarchists", you're simply not big enough to make that kind of impact.Wooz69 said:
Bradylama
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And Something Awful Goons thought POS was going to be good.
What's your point?
OK, such as you all, I have read a lot about history and watched plenty of movies on WWII.
I believe the book mentioned in this thread is worthless, just an opportunistic attempt to make money through sensationalism.
Now as for revisionism: anyone seen the movie Epidemy? Yeah with Dustin Hoffman?[Dudes I know this movie is not about WWII but bear with me, I will make my point) -> Remember how they segregate the people infected? Picture a country in war with many countries, and an epidemy of (what was common at that time? Cholera?).
Picture dozens, hundreds of corpses from the front sent back to the cities. What to do with that? Burn in piles? Bury in collective coves? They had to do something to avoid the epidemy to spread!
I am not saying that this is what happened - but as far as we know, this could have happened. Now we do know how easy it is to take a picture out of the context and find an explanation to what is going on that may make sense but is not what truly happened. And remember Jules Ceasar: Vae victis - woe the conquered, cause the ones who won the war are the ones who will tell the story. Many more people died in the nuclear explosion on Hiroshima and Nagazaki (with the aggravating fact that many more people continued to be damaged on the years after.)
Lets think, shall we? A country in war has difficulties - all its resourses become scarce cause the country has to focus on the belic effort AND keep its citizens living AND still try to make the country grow (in all senses) in the process. Now try to figure the ennormous ammount of resourses it would take to kill people sistematically everyday. Do you really think a country in war would have the luxury to spent manwork, train transportation, location of places, etc just to kill people cause *they hate them for they are different from us* in a moment when the country honestly needs all the manpower and resourses it can get?
How many people would they kill a day? How many gaschambers? Even working 24/7, the number would not reach the allegedly six million.
Sure people got killed. Sure soldiers can get a little off their duties and shoot civilians in war time (it may happen), but to develop a whole *serial production* of death, in industrial scale, is insane specially for a country a) that was at war and had more and more doors closing for them in international trades b) that had so many accurate strategists and economists and all working to make everything well developed and used at its best. I remember even reading in a book about a piece of propaganda at Nazi German conclaiming the fraulains (the women) to marry and have babies, in order to populate the reich. They NEEDED manpower, why would they be burning manpower and gas and all in something that would give no return?
I believe the book mentioned in this thread is worthless, just an opportunistic attempt to make money through sensationalism.
Now as for revisionism: anyone seen the movie Epidemy? Yeah with Dustin Hoffman?[Dudes I know this movie is not about WWII but bear with me, I will make my point) -> Remember how they segregate the people infected? Picture a country in war with many countries, and an epidemy of (what was common at that time? Cholera?).
Picture dozens, hundreds of corpses from the front sent back to the cities. What to do with that? Burn in piles? Bury in collective coves? They had to do something to avoid the epidemy to spread!
I am not saying that this is what happened - but as far as we know, this could have happened. Now we do know how easy it is to take a picture out of the context and find an explanation to what is going on that may make sense but is not what truly happened. And remember Jules Ceasar: Vae victis - woe the conquered, cause the ones who won the war are the ones who will tell the story. Many more people died in the nuclear explosion on Hiroshima and Nagazaki (with the aggravating fact that many more people continued to be damaged on the years after.)
Lets think, shall we? A country in war has difficulties - all its resourses become scarce cause the country has to focus on the belic effort AND keep its citizens living AND still try to make the country grow (in all senses) in the process. Now try to figure the ennormous ammount of resourses it would take to kill people sistematically everyday. Do you really think a country in war would have the luxury to spent manwork, train transportation, location of places, etc just to kill people cause *they hate them for they are different from us* in a moment when the country honestly needs all the manpower and resourses it can get?
How many people would they kill a day? How many gaschambers? Even working 24/7, the number would not reach the allegedly six million.
Sure people got killed. Sure soldiers can get a little off their duties and shoot civilians in war time (it may happen), but to develop a whole *serial production* of death, in industrial scale, is insane specially for a country a) that was at war and had more and more doors closing for them in international trades b) that had so many accurate strategists and economists and all working to make everything well developed and used at its best. I remember even reading in a book about a piece of propaganda at Nazi German conclaiming the fraulains (the women) to marry and have babies, in order to populate the reich. They NEEDED manpower, why would they be burning manpower and gas and all in something that would give no return?
Just becuase it was insane and made no sense doesn't mean they didn't do it. Thats the problem with having a national leader who is mentally unstable like Hitler was.
Hitler forced his commanders to do things they never would have done on their own, only at his insistance. The whole russian front was a series of mistakes compounded by Hitlers stubborness and tactical stupidity. And then look at Rommel, who was able to do amazing things in Africa, but when Hitler stuck his nose in it caused some serious problems (Like executing one of the finest Generals of the century for failing to win an unwinable war)
These were not the actions of a man confined by reality. They were the actions of a madman.
Hitler forced his commanders to do things they never would have done on their own, only at his insistance. The whole russian front was a series of mistakes compounded by Hitlers stubborness and tactical stupidity. And then look at Rommel, who was able to do amazing things in Africa, but when Hitler stuck his nose in it caused some serious problems (Like executing one of the finest Generals of the century for failing to win an unwinable war)
These were not the actions of a man confined by reality. They were the actions of a madman.