Why do you despise Bethesda

My opinion on this is that you wallet is your only way to give them your consent/disaproval. They don't care if you say bad things, as long as you give them money to continue what they are doing. So, having already played Fo3 to form my opinion, i would only buy another game devellopped by Bethesda if it is recommanded by some other like-minded individual who also hated Fo3. It would be rewarding them for their effort. As long as they remain utterly lazy, there is no reason to give them any consent.
 
I personally like Bethesda, but I'm not an apologist. I did like Oblivion and rate it highly. It had decent writing compared to what came after it. I actually remember quests from Oblivion in some detail, mostly the Dark Brotherhood and Mages Guild quest lines. The same can't be said for Skyrim at all. Except what I remember to say "(insert thing) wasn't as good as what Oblivion had". And that says a lot doesn't it? By all measures as to how Bethesda has developed games after Oblivion, graphics and game play gimmicks should trump story. But, remembering a game and its world is better. Despite Oblivion's cartoonesque graphics and down right instability, it still had better writing than Skyrim did and Fallout 3. I went from a criminal with no background and went on to save the world and do some other things.

What I dislike about Bethesda is that they are now prioritizing visuals and graphics over writing. Skyrim was a rather empty game with no thought put into it. It was all about looking at the pretty world. They had customized interiors of caves...and copy pasted quests. Visually things got repetitive in Oblivion, but at least I was doing something that distracted me from the flaws. Skyrim didn't do that. This is what I fear Fallout 4 will be, is just more visuals and gimmicks with writing and story taking the backseat, or getting left in the drive way. Which becomes the terrible thing, the games will become empty and there won't be any lore or story, it will just be a time sink, not something to be enjoyed.

As for what they could do, they could just as easily put more resources into writing or bring in Obsidian. I'm not a fan of New Vegas, but if Obsidian game crap out a game like New Vegas in less time than Fallout 4, they can make a good game in the same amount of time. I say this ignoring my issues with the plot in New Vegas and the game world and setting and so on and so forth. But that isn't the point, Bethesda can and has developed good games, its just that what we define as "good" means a good story and world; Bethesda defines "good" as makes money and looks pretty.
 
My opinion on this is that you wallet is your only way to give them your consent/disaproval.
Exactly!
As I see it, once you've tried to ride old Polish Fiat, you really don't need to test their newest model. It's perfectly safe to assume that it would be as shitty car as before - slightly improved old engine, assembled in the same factory by the same folks with the same know-how, the same recycled ideas and assets.. The car doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of impressing you.
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up

We do discuss lore. Look around the forum, it's just that the upcoming Fallout 4 is making us gnash our teeth and worry over a new Bethesda game, making us pour hate on 3.
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up
We do discuss lore. Look around the forum, it's just that the upcoming Fallout 4 is making us gnash our teeth and worry over a new Bethesda game, making us pour hate on 3.
The third game then becomes forgotten and we'll be discussing Fallout 4's "lore".
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up
We do discuss lore. Look around the forum, it's just that the upcoming Fallout 4 is making us gnash our teeth and worry over a new Bethesda game, making us pour hate on 3.
The third game then becomes forgotten and we'll be discussing Fallout 4's "lore".

Maybe. The main discussion will be about 4 but I bet that in the back of our minds, we will remember Fallout 3 as the beginning of the end, the decline from a true RPG and Fallout to the Bethesda rubbish they spurt out.
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up

Maybe you should try the other sub-forums. Just a thought. :whatever:

Pretty much.

Haha I love this forum, I don't know if I fit in but some of the comments and conversations you guys have are comedy gold.

You fit in mate. Don't worry about that.
 
I wouldn't consider bringing to light damning evidence that a company actively tries to hide to be what you could call "hating". I'd say my relationship with chicken is far more vitriolic than my relationship with Bethesda, and I hardly EVER mention chicken, or that I can't stand it! I criticize Bethesda all the time, but that's not to be confused with "hating". If all I had to say about them were empty, vacuous bullshit of a negative nature, purely because of some knee-jerk antipathy that was entirely emotionally driven and has no rational backing to it, then I suppose you could say it's "hating". But since I'm not, and few of us are.....
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up

Maybe you should try the other sub-forums. Just a thought. :whatever:

Pretty much.

Haha I love this forum, I don't know if I fit in but some of the comments and conversations you guys have are comedy gold.

You fit in mate. Don't worry about that.
Thanks, I feel like I'm being a little over cynical about things like fallout 4 sometimes.
 
I almost forgot why I got rid of my first account. Don't we have something better to do? like discuss fallout 1 and 2 and the lore? not hate on a company because they fucked up

Maybe you should try the other sub-forums. Just a thought. :whatever:

Pretty much.

Haha I love this forum, I don't know if I fit in but some of the comments and conversations you guys have are comedy gold.

You fit in mate. Don't worry about that.
Thanks, I feel like I'm being a little over cynical about things like fallout 4 sometimes.

Did you see the article I put up? YOU'RE NOT.
 
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