WTF is wrong with Wasteland 2 price tag? [Warning: Rage and hate]

Discussion in 'Wasteland Discussion' started by Eumesmopo, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. Takashi

    Takashi Chimichangas!

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    Dec 20, 2003
    I bought paid for the $50 tier because I wanted the physical version. Would be nice if they did a Beta Test upgrade for it.
     
  2. King_Rocket

    King_Rocket First time out of the vault

    40
    Apr 21, 2013
    Yeah I only have access to the beta because I wanted the Collectors Edition Premium Version, I should have gifted my digital copy away as I don't plan on playing this until it's completed.
     
  3. the_cpl

    the_cpl Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    449
    Aug 9, 2009
    60? I guess I must wait 3 years and pick it up for 5 bucks.
     
  4. PlanHex

    PlanHex Useless layabout oTO Moderator Orderite

    Nov 4, 2007
    They had a beta test add-on, but they removed all add-ons from their store a couple of weeks before the beta started.
    You can't say they didn't warn you: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/posts/685172
     
  5. Yamu

    Yamu Le Fromage Vieux oTO Moderator Orderite

    Jul 26, 2003
    I should probably check my e-mail more often. That said, though...

    This... this sounds like they're saying we should be able to do a thing that we clearly cannot do. Unless that means that they're going to be re-adding beta access as an upgrade, which is somehow different from an add-on. And despite the beta already being live. Maybe? No comprendo.
     
  6. PlanHex

    PlanHex Useless layabout oTO Moderator Orderite

    Nov 4, 2007
    They mean that if you're on a tier with no beta access - i.e. $50 or lower - you can upgrade to higher tiers that come with beta access like $55 or $75. Which is still entirely possible to do through the backer store, as far as I can tell.
     
  7. Yamu

    Yamu Le Fromage Vieux oTO Moderator Orderite

    Jul 26, 2003
    Maybe they changed that in the last few days. The last couple times I swung through to check the only two "upgrades" available to me were the $50 tier I was already on and a step down to the $30 level.

    Edit: I see it now. Hrm. Looks like that $55 upgrade to the all-digital tier would get a big-box buyer like myself beta access, but at the cost of the actual big box and all the other physical goodies. Shame, that. I think I'll forgo early access for my box of shinies. Serves mooks like me right for not reading the backer updates more often, I suppose.
     
  8. UnidentifiedFlyingTard

    UnidentifiedFlyingTard Vault Fossil

    Mar 12, 2009
    Not sure why using Unity Engine means your game has to be cheap.
     
  9. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    Cuz itz free DUH
     
  10. Oppen

    Oppen FIXT n°1 fan

    Dec 26, 2011
    I suspect this is sarcasm, but just in case, AFAIK Unity Engine is not free if your company has a bigger income than U$S100000. inXile had more than a million just from the Kickstarter.
    I guess it does reduce costs for them, though, as paying a license for an engine is usually cheaper than developing a new one (at least, for the same feature set).
     
  11. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    As far as I know, the Unity Pro version sets you back $1500, which is basically nothing. But I was being sarcastic, of course. Although the "cheap" engine seems to be the reason for the "Unity Engine games have to be cheap" argument.

    Well.

    :hatersgonnahate:

    Why would anyone only want the Beta?
     
  12. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    ...and? In Italy it's a twelfth of the average monthly wage.

    What a stupid argument. Value of a game is tied to its budget now? Ports of arcade games like Street Fighter already made their money back in the arcades, should they cost half the price?
     
  13. Oppen

    Oppen FIXT n°1 fan

    Dec 26, 2011
    Well, it depends. As an "it must be cheaper" argument, yeah, it has no validity, but as an "it COULD be cheaper", it makes sense.

    I agree. A game is not priced by the engine costs alone, and also, if it is a really good game (not what they sell as AAA by this days), it might worth it. Sadly, if the final price is of that order of magnitude, it's out of my budget :(
     
  14. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    As said before, the current price is pre-order/early access. It would have been mighty unfair to the backers if the early-access would have been cheaper than the first tier with beta-access.
    I guess the final price will be ~20-30$.
     
  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    People that don't want to pay 60 dollars for a unity engine game?
     
  16. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I don't get it, why would they want to play the Beta? If you don't want to pay 60 dollars for this unity engine game, wait until it's freakin' finished.
     
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    To help with the beta testing process? Also if they had a lower tier for just the beta it would be a much better move for InXile, more people would pay for it.
     
  18. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    Are you sure there is a sufficient amount of people who would be willing to pay for beta-testing without getting the final product?
     
  19. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    The whining plebs are annoying the fuck out of me. If it's too expensive then wait for the release. What's so hard to understand in this? KS backers had to pay 55$ to get the beta access, and now non-KS backers should get it for less? Why? The "you will make more money with a lower price!" argument is stupid too. But while we are at it, here I have another stupid money argument: You probably make more short-term money, but as soon as all interested people will have the game, your long-term money can be reduced.

    Hey, guess what? You can still do this, because the full game didn't had its launch yet! Surprise, surprise.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2013
  20. Sub-Human

    Sub-Human -

    May 31, 2011
    You could have preorded the game for $20 for months after the Kickstarter finished.