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I'd reckon that's a lot of scum then.
Muuuuuuuslim Baaaaaan! But don't call it that!
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I'd reckon that's a lot of scum then.
He isn't a sociopath. He has the neurological and genetic traits that correlate with psychopathy (which is again different), but he isn't actually one. Behaviour isn't just genetics.Which is kind of why I linked to the leading expert in the world on the subject.
Who is also a sociopath.
Also, for the billionth time, DON'T FUCKING DOUBLE POST. USE. THE. GODDAMN. EDIT. BUTTON.
Remember it more often, ffs.
CT Phipps
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Because sociopathy doesn't exist as a genetic condition. It's a made up term that amounts to tendencies created by society.
I actually generally double post and then go back and then edit it and delete the second post.
Why not? You think there would be no American citizen/soldier capable doing that, if let us say the US suffered from a Soviet invasion and occupation?
Those people are not more 'insane' than the Tokkotai, the japanese fighter planes that crashed their jabos into US ships. Everyone knew that it was hopeless. Everyone knew that it was a waste of resources. Yet generals ordered it. And soldiers did it. So have the Germans on some rare occasions. And many US veterans said they would have probably done the same, given the situation was reversed. Suicide attacks, have a long tradition in warefare and human history. Not so much from a military point of view, but from a morale point of view. An enemy that is willing to do literaly everything and the natural fear of dieing isn't effective. That's a pretty damn powerfull message for it self! And that is why terrorism can't be beaten with conventional military tactics.
What we're talking about here, is ideology and indoctrination. Once we get to the bottom of it, we might actually find solutions that work.
Not to mention that as someone who has had serious mental issues in the past my self, I am not very happy with simply 'classyfing' all those fuckers as just 'mentally insane/unstable'. I hope you know what I mean. As someone who is working as child carer and I really love my job, I have to constantly be carefull with whom I talk about it, simply because of that stigma that some have in their head, that mental issues = Killernutjob!. I certainly meet people that think like that.
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(...)The point being that there is something worrisome about people making automatic associations between mental illness and murder and terrorism. To be clear, the majority of people with mental illness, whether or not they have depression, bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, or schizophrenia, for example, never harm anyone. In fact, most of the time, they are the victims of violence rather than the perpetrators. It is a travesty that people who are already labeled and face terrible stigma must then be lumped into the same group as those who commit such brutal and terrible crimes against humanity.
That said, how do we understand the minds of this particular brand of killers? We have spent years studying the minds of psychopaths and serial killers in prison after capture, but how many terrorists have been studied? Why does it matter, you might ask? Well, how do we prevent future generations of terrorists if we don’t begin to figure out what draws them into the life?
I don't see what we could potentially gain, buy just declaring them all as more or less mentally instable. I am pretty sure that this can be said about some cases out there. The type of nutjobs sitting in their cabbin, building a bomb or fondling their scoped rifle, with the intention to hopefully 'kill some feds!' one day. Yeah. They exist. But I feel they are the minority among the extremists/lunatics, not the majority.
I am someone who likes to find explanations, that hopefully lead to solutions. But I feel that most people today, are not interested in that and just want to be done with, and the faster the better. But if you're only tool is a hammer, every issues starts to look like a nail.
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valcik
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There's 18 registered religions here in Slovakia, the religion of peace is none of them.
Number of mosques in Slovakia - zero.
Number of terrorist attacks commited by islamists here in Slovakia - zero.
Number of mosques in Slovakia - zero.
Number of terrorist attacks commited by islamists here in Slovakia - zero.
CT Phipps
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Maybe but at the end of the day, I think it's about ideology and indoctrination versus mental illness.
There's 18 registered religions here in Slovakia, the religion of peace is none of them.
Number of mosques in Slovakia - zero.
Number of terrorist attacks commited by islamists here in Slovakia - zero.
You were, however, destroyed by Ultron.
valcik
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Nah, Ultron ripped new one to Serbia, he never touched central Europe. 
That doesn't make sense as an answer to my post. You said Fallon is a sociopath. He isn't. You answer with that sociopathy is made up (which it isn't, really). Am I missing something here?
How about... Not doing that? Just edit your posts directly.
CT Phipps
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The clinical definition of sociopath versus psychopath is antisocial personality disorder.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/wp-co...een-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/index.html_gzip
I.e. the same thing.
People are trying to separate them but I think that's a failed experiment to begin with.
Okay.
Plz.There's 18 registered religions here in Slovakia, the religion of peace is none of them.
Number of mosques in Slovakia - zero.
Number of terrorist attacks commited by islamists here in Slovakia - zero.
Doesn't mean your nation is free of terrorism in general.
PRAGUE — As Slovakia held a day of mourning Thursday to honor the victims of Monday’s violent rampage in the Slovak capital, Bratislava, a picture began to emerge of the killer, an unemployed loner who the police said had participated in shooting contests and may have harbored resentment against his Roma victims.
The killing spree, in which six members of a Roma family were killed — including a 12-year-old boy — has shaken Slovakia, a small and predominantly Catholic country. It also has spurred a national debate about the assimilation of the country’s 380,000-strong Roma community, who typically live on the margins of society, stigmatized by poor levels of education, alcoholism and an image of lawlessness.
A debate over xenophobia against the Roma, also known as Gypsies, has been raging in recent months across Europe, most recently in France, where the government deported Roma living illegally in the country. But the issue is particularly sensitive in Slovakia, a young country that was part of the former Czechoslovakia and is still grappling with how to integrate its ethnic minorities while forging its national identity.
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Police said the killer, 48-year-old Lubomir Harman, who shot himself after being cornered by the police, lived in the same building as his Roma victims. Single and living alone, he had been jobless since August 2008, and had legally acquired six weapons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/world/europe/03iht-slovakia.html
That's as close to a 'suicidal killer' as it can get in my eyes.
valcik
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This man took his rifle and wiped out whole nest of drug dealers and pimps plaguing his neighborhood. He's just serial killer, not a terrorist.
CT Phipps
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I think that's a spree killer or mass murderer.
Serial killers get their names for doing the same murder over and over again.
I guess we all have our rationalisation and explanations.
After murdering a family of 5 inside a neighbour's flat in a local apartment building, he killed another man from the same family outside the building, proceeding to shoot in a busy street and also targeting people standing on their balconies, killing another woman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ľubomír_Harman
If I would be a Roma, I definetly would see such a guy as terrorist, but that's just me. And I don't think the people he killed care about what ever if the Slovakians believe it to be 'terrorism' or not.
Like I said, terrorism isn't a term that's exclusively patented by muslims. One of the main goals of terrorism, is to create shock and fear.
valcik
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Yep, thanks - he's mass murderer. Besides, the district where this incident took place is much safer now for other folks, nobody's afraid to walk around the building at nights anymore. Terrorists are aiming for exactly the opposite, right?
Ah yeah, so a small little mass killing here and there, as long it hits gypsis is ok I guess, eh. As long the 'real' Slovaks aren't hurt, right?
valcik
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Mass murders are nothing new here or any other country, gypsies or not. Trying to paint them as a "terrorists" is pretty lame, dear Vuk.
Why? Why aren't weirdos like Harman and Brevik not 'terrorists'?
valcik
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Hartman tried to resolve his situation by a couple of legal ways before, with no luck. The authorities didn't pay any attention to his official complaints, so he went insane and took care of it by himself. This is not how terrorists operate, is it?
Breivik was very different, and he's been diagnosed with schizophrenia..
Breivik was very different, and he's been diagnosed with schizophrenia..
Supreme Shah Ismail
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
An important thing to note, do not always link Islam as a cause of an act of terror being committed. Think of it as saying video games cause mass shootings. They very obviously don't, if that were true every muslim would be a killer. Also please don't pretend the Quran is any different from the Bible or the Torah. They both have fucked up shit and pretending like anyone one religion is better is pretty ignorant to say. If evangelicals had the power don't you think they wouldn't be ANY different than mullahs or sheiks?
Islam is not the reason for the violence. Religion has always been used an excuse for ulterior motives. ISIS rise should not have been that surprising. ISIS is not a war of religion, it is a war of Arab nationalism. Its the poor and uneducated venting their frustrations of their countries being torn to shit and the powerful amongst them taking advantage of them for their own personal wealth and gain. Prior to WW1, name an instance in which any Muslim nation or peoples acted any differently from a European nation.
Islam is not the reason for the violence. Religion has always been used an excuse for ulterior motives. ISIS rise should not have been that surprising. ISIS is not a war of religion, it is a war of Arab nationalism. Its the poor and uneducated venting their frustrations of their countries being torn to shit and the powerful amongst them taking advantage of them for their own personal wealth and gain. Prior to WW1, name an instance in which any Muslim nation or peoples acted any differently from a European nation.
Are you fucking shitting me? Are you serious? For instance, does the word 'crusade' ring a bell? Do you know anything at all about Spain's past? Do you know how islam was spread? Do you even fucking know what a history book looks like? And you have an opinion you actually deemed worthy to post? Fuck me.