I think in Europe it's pretty rare for average folks to "stop robberies and murders and other crimes" with personal firearms. There may be a need for them at some point like, for police, but it's just not customary here for civilians. And that's good, I'd prefer to live on a continent where gun slinging isn't a regular thing that "everyone should do". How about giving a list of these incidents SilverStarNoobie, it would clarify the issue. I mean, if the gun is pulled on another person wielding a gun then removing guns from the equation would actually help.