Things we learned from Fallout 4

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Brahmin Noodles, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Risewild

    Risewild Half-way Through My Half-life
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    I learned to tell my friends to not buy me games as Christmas presents.
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  2. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    For some inexplicable reason, I have the feeling they bought you Fallout 4...
  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Even worse, with all the season passes!
  4. naossano

    naossano Vault Fossil

    Oct 19, 2006
    - But I thought you were fan of fallout....
    - that's the whole point ! A true fallout fan would boycott that abomination!
  5. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    When you've played Fallout 4 for 10 minutes, you've played all that Fallout 4 has to offer.
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  6. naossano

    naossano Vault Fossil

    Oct 19, 2006
    A bit a rephrase of the previous comment.
    When you tell people that you are a fan of Fallout, there is now a mandatory *except ...*.
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  7. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Sadly that is the truth.
    Whenever I tell people I am or was a fan of the Fallout franchise, I have to mention "But not Fallout 3 and 4"
    It has reached the point that I don't even want to bring the subject up any more.
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  8. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    And now ... we finally know how real Turtle fans feel. Right @Gizmojunk ?
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  9. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Did a species of turtles recently go extinct?
  10. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Vault Fossil

    Nov 26, 2007
    No... Just a faded Mirage.
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  11. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I think he means the TMNT. I have been looking into the franchise a couple of years ago and learned that there was rather schism or not even that when a couple of years after the Mirage TMNT series the well known Fred Wolf cartoon series came out that basically entered public awareness rather than the single issue and series that spawned it.

    The original series was pretty serious and dark despite featuring anthropomorphic turtles and a rat and it was original intended as a parody but also homage to Frank Miller's Daredevil. Even the origins of the turtles tied into the origins of Matt Murdock as Daredevil, the vial of chemical waste that blinded him being the same one that mutated the turtles and Splinter.
    And while Daredevil fought the secretive ninja society known as the Hand, the turtles fought another one known as the Foot.

    The cartoon of course was more child friend and comedy oriented, though in the beginning it was still more action packed than what it became later when it had to be child friendly for all ages and is of course mostly known for the toy, video games, and other merchandise.

    Many Mirage fans hated how the franchise was watered down this way in the name of commercialism potential.

    But here is the thing, I personally came into TMNT with the Fred Wolf cartoon, and later the comics by Mirage/Archie, and I still have very fond memories of both, though these days I have come to the conclusion that I only like parts of both. The animation series the original Season One mini series and part of Season Two, and of TMNT Adventures (the Archie comics) up to The Final Confrontation and a couple of several part stories after it. (at some point it became to much eco preaching and the quality of stories really really declined)

    Well eventually Turtle mania blew over and Image comics took over from Mirage for a while, continuing the Mirage TMNT series, but they also did their own damage to it.
    I don't recall all the details but some of it featured mutilating some of the turtles to make them more distinguishable from each other. (I think Raphael lost a hand and Donatello became a cyborg)

    The Image run was so loathed that it was pretty much ignored when Peter Laird decided to continue with the TMNT series again and started the fourth series.

    At some point though he had bought out Eastman and decided to sell the whole franchise to Nickelodeon who made the series for six years and older, dropping all the Mirage aspects.

    (before that 4Kids had also made a cartoons which was surprisingly close to the original Mirage series but without the turtles actually wounding and killing people before it introduced its own material)

    Well IDW got the rights from Nickelodeon to create their own TMNT comics and did a sort of reboot and mix of both the Mirage TMNT, Fred Wolf TMNT, and the Archie TMNT, bringing in plotdevices and characters of all three though with some changes here and there (including changing characters' gender).
    I have been reading that one for a while but it seems that the writers which surprising included Peter Laird are more into recycling stuff from the previous TMNT incarnations that doing something completely different and unique.

    So at this point there are basically four or five incarnations of the TMNT, and more if you count the games.
  12. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Are my stupid jokes too subtle? ):
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  13. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I think they can be lost on a lot of people who never grew up with the TMNT or know about its origins.
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  14. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    You realise you can manually change what you do and don't get email notifications for right?
  15. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    That was a while back so I already do. Nonetheless, thanks for the heads up.