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Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Brahmin Noodles, Mar 26, 2016.
I learned to tell my friends to not buy me games as Christmas presents.
For some inexplicable reason, I have the feeling they bought you Fallout 4...
Even worse, with all the season passes!
- But I thought you were fan of fallout....
- that's the whole point ! A true fallout fan would boycott that abomination!
When you've played Fallout 4 for 10 minutes, you've played all that Fallout 4 has to offer.
A bit a rephrase of the previous comment.
When you tell people that you are a fan of Fallout, there is now a mandatory *except ...*.
Sadly that is the truth.
Whenever I tell people I am or was a fan of the Fallout franchise, I have to mention "But not Fallout 3 and 4"
It has reached the point that I don't even want to bring the subject up any more.
And now ... we finally know how real Turtle fans feel. Right @Gizmojunk ?
Did a species of turtles recently go extinct?
No... Just a faded Mirage.
I think he means the TMNT. I have been looking into the franchise a couple of years ago and learned that there was rather schism or not even that when a couple of years after the Mirage TMNT series the well known Fred Wolf cartoon series came out that basically entered public awareness rather than the single issue and series that spawned it.
The original series was pretty serious and dark despite featuring anthropomorphic turtles and a rat and it was original intended as a parody but also homage to Frank Miller's Daredevil. Even the origins of the turtles tied into the origins of Matt Murdock as Daredevil, the vial of chemical waste that blinded him being the same one that mutated the turtles and Splinter.
And while Daredevil fought the secretive ninja society known as the Hand, the turtles fought another one known as the Foot.
The cartoon of course was more child friend and comedy oriented, though in the beginning it was still more action packed than what it became later when it had to be child friendly for all ages and is of course mostly known for the toy, video games, and other merchandise.
Many Mirage fans hated how the franchise was watered down this way in the name of commercialism potential.
But here is the thing, I personally came into TMNT with the Fred Wolf cartoon, and later the comics by Mirage/Archie, and I still have very fond memories of both, though these days I have come to the conclusion that I only like parts of both. The animation series the original Season One mini series and part of Season Two, and of TMNT Adventures (the Archie comics) up to The Final Confrontation and a couple of several part stories after it. (at some point it became to much eco preaching and the quality of stories really really declined)
Well eventually Turtle mania blew over and Image comics took over from Mirage for a while, continuing the Mirage TMNT series, but they also did their own damage to it.
I don't recall all the details but some of it featured mutilating some of the turtles to make them more distinguishable from each other. (I think Raphael lost a hand and Donatello became a cyborg)
The Image run was so loathed that it was pretty much ignored when Peter Laird decided to continue with the TMNT series again and started the fourth series.
At some point though he had bought out Eastman and decided to sell the whole franchise to Nickelodeon who made the series for six years and older, dropping all the Mirage aspects.
(before that 4Kids had also made a cartoons which was surprisingly close to the original Mirage series but without the turtles actually wounding and killing people before it introduced its own material)
Well IDW got the rights from Nickelodeon to create their own TMNT comics and did a sort of reboot and mix of both the Mirage TMNT, Fred Wolf TMNT, and the Archie TMNT, bringing in plotdevices and characters of all three though with some changes here and there (including changing characters' gender).
I have been reading that one for a while but it seems that the writers which surprising included Peter Laird are more into recycling stuff from the previous TMNT incarnations that doing something completely different and unique.
So at this point there are basically four or five incarnations of the TMNT, and more if you count the games.
Are my stupid jokes too subtle? ):
I think they can be lost on a lot of people who never grew up with the TMNT or know about its origins.
You realise you can manually change what you do and don't get email notifications for right?
That was a while back so I already do. Nonetheless, thanks for the heads up.