Fallout's Deceitful Marijuana Agenda?

Tiamin

First time out of the vault
Notice the bong to the side of the Arroyo elder, the leader of Arroyo, the daughter of the Vault Dweller and the mother of the Chosen One from Fallout 2:

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At some point, Hakunin, the Arroyo shaman, gives you the "powders of healing" that "hog the mind as they cleanse the body."

Is "healing powder" actually a hidden reference to marijuana?

If so, that would make Caesar's Legion's use of it in Fallout: New Vegas especially strange and contradictory, considering their dislike of narcotics.

Even the New Vegas version of stimpaks uses the same ingredients as healing powder, plus a syringe.

In any case, the Arroyo elder is clearly using a bong.

You might have noticed that lately some parties have been heavily pushing for marijuana legalization. That includes various news networks, even the so-called "independent" ones, film and television actors, music videos, sports, video games and so on.

Even the recent Mass Effect: Andromeda includes a "medicinal" marijuana mission:



EDIT: Since Fallout made references to Star Trek before, here are a few examples from Star Trek actors to illustrate how widespread the agenda is:
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Read the article [from 2016] titled "Medical Marijuana is a Big Lie":

[L]et’s get one thing straight. Medical marijuana is a big lie. Even the name implies something that is not true.

Hillary Clinton has praised medical marijuana, suggested rescheduling the drug; and the Democratic Party platform calls for the eventual legalization of pot. Even Donald Trump has suggested medical marijuana might be all right, although he favors keeping pot illegal. [. . .] States are voting to either permit medical marijuana to be sold or to take the more extreme step of “legalizing” the recreational use of marijuana.

Unfortunately, everyone is being duped.

The legalization of marijuana for medical dispensation or general recreational use is a public health catastrophe happening in slow motion across our country. While marijuana use and possession remains illegal under federal law regardless of changes in state law, the Obama administration’s decision not to enforce federal law in those states that vote to legalize the drug under state law has effectively gutted the federal prohibition against marijuana use and possession in many parts of the country.

The concept of medical marijuana has allowed those who favor marijuana’s ultimate legalization to cloak the drug in a mantle of legitimacy. This is a trick that was tried by tobacco companies two generations ago. The myth of medical marijuana — that it somehow benefits people who smoke it — actually hides the truth that it is a dangerous, highly addictive drug with no known medical benefits that can seriously damage a smoker’s physical and mental health.

There are several things the pot lobby won’t tell you, but a read of the medical science is clear.

Marijuana is harmful to people in so many different ways it is truly astounding. Like cigarettes, smoked marijuana contains numerous known carcinogens. While lung cancer rates among marijuana smokers are hard to track, cancer and carcinogens go hand-in-hand.

Marijuana has been shown to increase substantially the rate of mental illness in regular users. The incidences of psychotic episodes or schizophrenia is about six times greater among regular marijuana users.

Suicide is another side effect of marijuana use. One recent study, published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal in 2014, showed a seven-fold increase in the likelihood of suicide among regular teenage marijuana users as compared to the general population. Further, it is well established in the medical literature that marijuana use is associated with higher rates of suicide in the general population.

But even setting aside these dramatic existential threats to people's physical and mental health, marijuana has been shown to make people stupider, permanently. The average drop in IQ suffered by regular marijuana users is something like eight points. This is roughly equivalent to the IQ drop caused by being exposed to lead paint chips as a child. And lead paint has been outlawed!

Beyond IQ, simple memory is damaged by regularly smoking pot. The most recent studies show permanent memory loss is the end result of regular pot use.

More generally, have you ever met anyone who is truly better off from using marijuana regularly? Pothead is a word in our modern lexicon for a reason. The lack of motivation engendered by regularly ingesting THC is also well documented and clearly apparent to any person who has seen a close friend or relative go down this path.

The advocates for medical marijuana would prefer to ignore all of these adverse health effects. They would prefer to focus our attention instead on the oil derived from cannabinoids in the pot plant that may treat certain rare forms of epilepsy or the anecdotal evidence of the calming effect of pot smoking on elderly people with cancer.

[. . .]

Then why have 23 legislatures passed some form of medical marijuana law? The short answer in many cases is because they have been duped. A more sinister and equally likely explanation is that they have been bribed. The legislators see the money pushing for the ultimate legalization of marijuana and they decide to get behind it to help their cronies rather than fight the good fight for the public health.

Schizophrenic pot smokers are not very able to defend themselves and explain their story. Instead, people like former congressmen push their buddies in the state legislature to legalize medical marijuana so a company they are affiliated with can be awarded one of the few licenses to dispense pot legally.

Of course, the game is not really about medical marijuana. People following the issue have known for years that the "medical" part of the equation was always a big lie — meant to act as a stepping stone to full legalization and commercialization of pot for any use. The acceptability of marijuana, brought on first by appealing to our common compassion, is a public health disaster. And it's being pushed by a small group of people who want to get rich — very rich — off pot use by others. Meet the new big tobacco, ladies and gentlemen.

Greed is driving the new industry. Big Pot is looking to replace Big Tobacco as the new, new thing for young people. And just as Big Tobacco tried to wrap itself in the aura of the medical industry by hiring doctors to endorse its products, Big Pot is selling its bogus story of the safety and "benefits" of pot by pushing for medical marijuana. Don't be fooled again.

Jonathan Talcott is a Washington, D.C.-based attorney and the chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to educating people about the dangers of using marijuana.

The same agenda is being heavily pushed worldwide.

[Be careful if there are new "scientific discoveries" about marijuana's "benefits" or "safety". The medical field could potentially be infiltrated by frauds, considering how much money could be made in this "business".]

Notice how the so-called "Weed Day" is on April 20th—the same date as Hitler's birthday.

Consider that people are being massively lied to.

EDIT: It looks like they are pushing hallucinogens in general.

Fallout Wiki: Arroyo Elder


Two years later, she took her mystic test, a key ingredient of which is several pots worth of hallucinogenic plants from Hakunin's garden.​

California Proposal Seeks to Legalize Magic Mushrooms

According to The Sacramento Bee, Saunders views the legalization of psilocybin, the hallucinogenic compound that puts the magic in magic mushrooms, as "a natural step after voters’ legalization of pot."​

The Fallout franchise might be just one among others pushing the agenda.
 
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WTFITFAS?

No, Healing Powder is not marijuana.
Healing powder is a mix of two plants and it is a powder. Marijuana is just that (not a mix) and it is not a powder. Also healing powder is not smoked.

Also Medicinal marijuana is real and it does work. I actually know of people who have to use it as a medicine and I can attest that the change is significant and that their quality of life improved substantially after using it.

What's with the conspiracy theorists lately? Is it all the same person with multiple accounts, trolls, or are the conspiracy theorists finding Fallout now?
 
Greed is driving the new industry. Big Pot is looking to replace Big Tobacco as the new, new thing for young people. And just as Big Tobacco tried to wrap itself in the aura of the medical industry by hiring doctors to endorse its products, Big Pot is selling its bogus story of the safety and "benefits" of pot by pushing for medical marijuana. Don't be fooled again.

 
Honestly, pot could be exploited, like anything else.

Its up to the populace to resist any attempt to monopolise it, like tobacco.
 
Honestly, pot could be exploited, like anything else.

Its up to the populace to resist any attempt to monopolise it, like tobacco.
IIRC to have legal medical marijuana you need a medical prescription. So it is even more regulated and less available than tobacco. But I don't know how it is in the USA.
 
It would immediately go full "raw vegan bio all natural homegrown", I don't really see big companies getting into that all that easily. Many of those who smoke pot are already somewhat anti-big-corporations, and those who need it medically don't actually smoke it but get the THC in tablets or drops or whatever. "Big Pot" will not happen, I think.
 
IIRC to have legal medical marijuana you need a medical prescription. So it is even more regulated and less available than tobacco. But I don't know how it is in the USA.

Depends on the place IIRC.
It would immediately go full "raw vegan bio all natural homegrown", I don't really see big companies getting into that all that easily. Many of those who smoke pot are already somewhat anti-big-corporations, and those who need it medically don't actually smoke it but get the THC in tablets or drops or whatever. "Big Pot" will not happen, I think.

It doesn't take much for some rich dude to make some weed smokable product and advertise it or some shit as 'The hip new smoking which is 'good' for you!' and brainwash a generation of new-tards.
 
Lets not forget that med-pot is communism and OH MY AMERICAN-CAPITALIST GOD ARE YOU A COMMIE??!!
 
Lets not forget that med-pot is communism and OH MY AMERICAN-CAPITALIST GOD ARE YOU A COMMIE??!!
But they're trying to prevent another "Big Tobacco". Isn't allowing huge mega-corporations to form that can influence politics at their whim basically the American Dream? It's free market!
Anyway, this thread is utterly ridiculous.
Of course the Arroyo elders were smoking shittons of whatever weed they could find, it's freaking obvious! They're tribals, it's what they do! The player character can even react supremely annoyed at Hakunin's wacky stoner speech... Not exactly glorifying it, come to think of it.
 
I'd also like to point out, since nobody has yet, "bongs" are not automatically for pot-smoking. The middle east have their own bongs, "hookahs" for tobacco smoking. The water mildens the roughness of the smoke (by cooling it down)
Bongs are illegal to posess in the US, because of their association to pot, but in many other countries - such as my own Norway - they are perfectly legal, and considered any other kind of pipe. Pipes are also legal, despite them also being used for cannabis-smoking by potheads.

Tobacco is very common in tribal communities, and whenever I played FO2 - I used to imagine the bong being for tobacco, and Hakunin to be wasted on *heavy* hallucinogens, such as mushrooms and whatnot.
Cannabis does not cause hallucinations, colored hands, or any other dumb movie trope, it just mellows you out.

And quoting some gvt stooge about "big pot" just makes this whole thing even dumber. People don't kill themselves because of pot, but suicidal people might be prone to smoking pot, just as they are also (even more) prone to drinking alcohol. Could deal with that dumb ramble point by point, but I'm feeling really conflicted about dedicating any more of my time to this.
I'm so sick of people regurgitating retarded articles while lacking the mental capacity to break it down.
 
I think I lost and intelligence point just reading this thread. Whomever Taimin is they are obviously a troll or seriously ignorant of reality.

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