Fallout's Deceitful Marijuana Agenda?

Notice the bong to the side of the Arroyo elder, the leader of Arroyo, the daughter of the Vault Dweller and the mother of the Chosen One from Fallout 2:
Yeah, it's called a joke. There are lots of those in Fallout 2.

The devs probably figured that the tribals in Fallout 2 were likely post-apocalyptic stoners(Which is also kinda supported by Hakunin being basically stoned 24/7)

At some point, Hakunin, the Arroyo shaman, gives you the "powders of healing" that "hog the mind as they cleanse the body."

Is "healing powder" actually a hidden reference to marijuana?
The devs of Fallout 2 weren't exactly the most subtle group. If they wanted to put Marijuana in to the game, they would've put Marijuana in to the game.

Healing Powder is probably supposed to some sort of shamanic magic or something. It's also probably supposed to be a cheap early game healing item.
Read the article titled "Medical Marijuana is a Big Lie": (Snip)
This article is conflating regular usage with using it at all, which is honestly bullshit.

Sure regularly smoking dope damages IQ and memory and regularly drinking damages the liver.

There's a little thing called moderation. Don't drink yourself to death, don't smoke dope to death.

Weed really isn't that harmful in small quantities, and it's about as addictive as alcohol. So long as you aren't a total moron with how much you smoke you should honestly be fine.
Notice how the so-called "Weed Day" is on April 20th—the same date as Hitler's birthday.
Pure coincidence.

IIRC 4/20 is based on two kids who always met there dealer at 4:20 PM or some shit like that. It wasn't intentionally chosen as Hitler's birthday.
 
Jorge I applaud you for engaging in the debate, however I believe your valid arguments are falling on deaf ears.

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There are bong and weed paraphernalia stores here that operate legally by insisting they are only hobby stores. Sure they sell weed grinders, bongs, crack pipes of diffefent shapes and have Bob Marley posters all around but they don't sell weed over the counter so they are perfectly legal.
 
IIRC 4/20 is based on two kids who always met there dealer at 4:20 PM or some shit like that. It wasn't intentionally chosen as Hitler's birthday.

And just what the fuck is wrong with Hitler's birthday? Leave the guy alone, he's probably pissed off that weed smokers celebrate 4/20, given he hated smoking.
 
And that must be why the entire location containing it was cut. They wanted to push their marijuana agenda, so they got rid of the actual marijuana in the game. The sneaky bastards!
It's deceitful after all. It sneaks up on you by not existing!
 
A little history lesson:

Before Fallout 2 was released only California legalized medical marijuana (1996), then in the year of Fallout 2 release Oregon, Alaska, and Washington also legalized medical cannabis (probably because of the release of Fallout 2, of course).

Only in 2012 (14 years after the game was released, but I bet it was still because of Fallout 2) the first USA states (Colorado and Washington) legalized recreational marijuana for adults 21 years of age or older.

The things we know when we look back in history.

Fallout 2 deceitful marijuana agenda confirmed!
 
Notice the bong to the side of the Arroyo elder, the leader of Arroyo, the daughter of the Vault Dweller and the mother of the Chosen One from Fallout 2:

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At some point, Hakunin, the Arroyo shaman, gives you the "powders of healing" that "hog the mind as they cleanse the body."

Is "healing powder" actually a hidden reference to marijuana?

If so, that would make Caesar's Legion's use of it in Fallout: New Vegas especially strange and contradictory, considering their dislike of narcotics.

Even the New Vegas version of stimpaks uses the same ingredients as healing powder, plus a syringe.

In any case, the Arroyo elder is clearly using a bong.

You might have noticed that lately some parties have been heavily pushing for marijuana legalization. That includes various news networks, even the so-called "independant" ones, film and television actors, music videos, sports, video games and so on.

Even the recent Mass Effect: Andromeda includes a "medicinal" marijuana mission:



Read the article titled "Medical Marijuana is a Big Lie":

[L]et’s get one thing straight. Medical marijuana is a big lie. Even the name implies something that is not true.

Hillary Clinton has praised medical marijuana, suggested rescheduling the drug; and the Democratic Party platform calls for the eventual legalization of pot. Even Donald Trump has suggested medical marijuana might be all right, although he favors keeping pot illegal. [. . .] States are voting to either permit medical marijuana to be sold or to take the more extreme step of “legalizing” the recreational use of marijuana.

Unfortunately, everyone is being duped.

The legalization of marijuana for medical dispensation or general recreational use is a public health catastrophe happening in slow motion across our country. While marijuana use and possession remains illegal under federal law regardless of changes in state law, the Obama administration’s decision not to enforce federal law in those states that vote to legalize the drug under state law has effectively gutted the federal prohibition against marijuana use and possession in many parts of the country.

The concept of medical marijuana has allowed those who favor marijuana’s ultimate legalization to cloak the drug in a mantle of legitimacy. This is a trick that was tried by tobacco companies two generations ago. The myth of medical marijuana — that it somehow benefits people who smoke it — actually hides the truth that it is a dangerous, highly addictive drug with no known medical benefits that can seriously damage a smoker’s physical and mental health.

There are several things the pot lobby won’t tell you, but a read of the medical science is clear.

Marijuana is harmful to people in so many different ways it is truly astounding. Like cigarettes, smoked marijuana contains numerous known carcinogens. While lung cancer rates among marijuana smokers are hard to track, cancer and carcinogens go hand-in-hand.

Marijuana has been shown to increase substantially the rate of mental illness in regular users. The incidences of psychotic episodes or schizophrenia is about six times greater among regular marijuana users.

Suicide is another side effect of marijuana use. One recent study, published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal in 2014, showed a seven-fold increase in the likelihood of suicide among regular teenage marijuana users as compared to the general population. Further, it is well established in the medical literature that marijuana use is associated with higher rates of suicide in the general population.

But even setting aside these dramatic existential threats to people's physical and mental health, marijuana has been shown to make people stupider, permanently. The average drop in IQ suffered by regular marijuana users is something like eight points. This is roughly equivalent to the IQ drop caused by being exposed to lead paint chips as a child. And lead paint has been outlawed!

Beyond IQ, simple memory is damaged by regularly smoking pot. The most recent studies show permanent memory loss is the end result of regular pot use.

More generally, have you ever met anyone who is truly better off from using marijuana regularly? Pothead is a word in our modern lexicon for a reason. The lack of motivation engendered by regularly ingesting THC is also well documented and clearly apparent to any person who has seen a close friend or relative go down this path.

The advocates for medical marijuana would prefer to ignore all of these adverse health effects. They would prefer to focus our attention instead on the oil derived from cannabinoids in the pot plant that may treat certain rare forms of epilepsy or the anecdotal evidence of the calming effect of pot smoking on elderly people with cancer.

[. . .]

Then why have 23 legislatures passed some form of medical marijuana law? The short answer in many cases is because they have been duped. A more sinister and equally likely explanation is that they have been bribed. The legislators see the money pushing for the ultimate legalization of marijuana and they decide to get behind it to help their cronies rather than fight the good fight for the public health.

Schizophrenic pot smokers are not very able to defend themselves and explain their story. Instead, people like former congressmen push their buddies in the state legislature to legalize medical marijuana so a company they are affiliated with can be awarded one of the few licenses to dispense pot legally.

Of course, the game is not really about medical marijuana. People following the issue have known for years that the "medical" part of the equation was always a big lie — meant to act as a stepping stone to full legalization and commercialization of pot for any use. The acceptability of marijuana, brought on first by appealing to our common compassion, is a public health disaster. And it's being pushed by a small group of people who want to get rich — very rich — off pot use by others. Meet the new big tobacco, ladies and gentlemen.

Greed is driving the new industry. Big Pot is looking to replace Big Tobacco as the new, new thing for young people. And just as Big Tobacco tried to wrap itself in the aura of the medical industry by hiring doctors to endorse its products, Big Pot is selling its bogus story of the safety and "benefits" of pot by pushing for medical marijuana. Don't be fooled again.

Jonathan Talcott is a Washington, D.C.-based attorney and the chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to educating people about the dangers of using marijuana.

The same agenda is being heavily pushed worldwide.

Notice how the so-called "Weed Day" is on April 20th—the same date as Hitler's birthday.

Consider that people are being massively lied to.


Could it be possible that someone sold you bad Marijuana?
 
Could it be possible that someone sold you bad Marijuana?
Well, it definitely seems to me that the IQ is quite low and considering that there was a quote on the first post saying that smoking it decreases the IQ, imagine what bad one would do to your brain :whistle:
 
This is now weed appreciation thread

Hmm, while not actively promoting it! Since it is not legal in most our countries. Appreciate while not promoting, it's a tight rope for sure :ponder:

I really miss how it was in Spain, there's a lot of places you hear about where they don't really worry about it, untill you get there, and realize they DO worry, bust your ass, fine you etc, but Spain is seriously chill and I really miss that laid-back-ness about it.
Two examples - one time a relative and some friends of his were rolling up a fat one on the outdoors table of a lil cafeteria, and right-from-Norway me was shitting myself with nerves, I couldn't believe what he was claiming "Relax, nobody cares!"
The waiter arrived, and the very first second all I heard was "WHAT IS [GOING ON HERE]!!!" only for the sentence to form as "What would you like to drink :]" or something like that. Not only did he not give a shit, but he also took a group photo of us, before finishing taking our orders.

But, better example: Me and my brother had brought a joint each to the beach, it was really hot, and we figured we would get high and just dip half-conciously in the waves, like mellowed out sea otters. We tried to time it with a single cop who was zooming back and forth with his little sand-scooter thingy, dunno what they're called, lil four wheel bikes. We thought we were so clever, every time he passed us, we hid our joints, AS IF they didn't stink to high heavens. Finally we hear that little walkie-talkie *du-dee-di-lup* sound, and the cop - right behind us - going "Nah, all is calm here. Couple of youngsters smoking a joint, but nothing else."

But nothing else! :D I couldn't believe it...
 
A friend got fucked up on something one night (obviously not weed, but also no Lsd and I didn't ask him what iyt was) and ended up wandering the streets confused. They called me from the hospital to ask me to pick him up. I was really worried because they told me he was still under the effects. Then I got there, he was perfectly lucid and sobre but they took his manner of speech as him still being "perked up", he was more embarrassed than anything because he also got out without shoes. I still pick on him with that one.
 
A friend got fucked up on something one night (obviously not weed, but also no Lsd and I didn't ask him what iyt was) and ended up wandering the streets confused. They called me from the hospital to ask me to pick him up. I was really worried because they told me he was still under the effects. Then I got there, he was perfectly lucid and sobre but they took his manner of speech as him still being "perked up", he was more embarrassed than anything because he also got out without shoes. I still pick on him with that one.

Ironically, the thing this reminds me the most of is a friend of mine's first drunkedness. He had managed to vomit all over himself in a taxi, he got thrown out, wandered around aimlessly, before passing out and eventually brought to the hospital where he was pumped :D
To this day, it makes me giggle
 
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