10 best sci-fi/horror movies

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Ichi the Killer- stupid. Even if you like S&M and violence, still stupid. For a better film, if only visually, than Rob Zombie's House of 10,000 corpses is better.


Haven't seen Audition.
 
Audition isn't bad because Miike actually shows some restraint for a change. The first half plays out better than most romantic comedies. It's really bizarre because the whole time I was watching it I was waiting for him to drop the hammer. When he finally does there's some build-up and payoff to it.
 
Since five people have talked shit and compared me to Malkavian,here is my reply.

As for the Cube, Queen of the Damned, Butterfly Effect, and Alien vs. Predator being on my top ten; here is an explanation.

Queen of the Damned- Ok it didn't have any well known actors, so most people ditch it right off the bat. Then it didn't have Tom Cruise, so everyone was like " this movie is gonna suck ass" so they didn't watch it. Plus on top of that, the true Anne Rice fanboys were mad because Lestat had black hair instead of blonde. Ok now, disregard all of that bullshit.
When I went into the theaters I expected a decent vampire flick(probably not faithful to the books), but in my opinion it was one of the best vampire movies ever....2nd to "Interview with a Vampire". The soundtrack blew me out of my seat. I almost creamed my pants when Akasha toasted every vampire in the club.Lestat's acting really impressed me, and everything built up to that moment when Lestat was taken by Akasha. The story was pretty faithful to the book.... it just left a lot out. I stand by my decision. I love this fuckin movie.


Edit: I actually hate this movie. What was I thinking? I think my fondness of the books clouded my judgement. I actually think Bram Stokers Dracula is the best vamp movie.

Butterfly Effect- I guess this one just has a personal place in my heart, since I watched it with my wife before we got married. It was the first movie we both liked. Does anyone else have a movie like that? It really reminded me of how choosing certain paths in life can take you down a whole different course. I liked the different realities that the main character went through. I mean think about it. If you made a different decision in life, an important one,where would you be? That concept facinates me. Would this ever make anyone elses top ten list? No. Do I care? No. Next.

Cube Trilogy- I don't give a flying fuck what anyone says about this series; It friggin kicked ass. I loved the fact that the cube would always move ,and you never knew who would die by some crazy contraption. I stated earlier that Cube 3 appealed to me because it tied up some loose ends, and someone spouted out some smartass reply, but I stick by it.

AVP- Ok. I admit I chose to rashly on this one. I watched it a couple of days before I made the thread. Sue me. The movie does in fact suck dick.

As for some of the other choices people made:

Clockwork Orange- A pretty kick ass movie.

Birds- I love Hitchcock. I love Birds. I just don't like the two together. Birds was alright, but Psycho is better. Vertigo is even better. That makes it better, better.



Edit: Overall, I had really horrible tastes in movies. I still do, but I am improving.
 
Murdoch said:
Are you sure your not all Malkavian dopplegangers?

Yeh, you guys should be ashamed of yourself for letting Vault Dweller get a joke before you.

Top ten sci-fi off the top of my head.

First Star Wars Trilogy
Alien
Aliens
Terminator 1
Terminator 2
Predator
Heavy Metal
Blade Runner

Dark City is a great film. It's a shame we Aussies don't make more good sci-fi films here, but it is difficult.

I saw Logan's Run and Westworld when I was so young that I can't remember much about them, apart from the fact that they were great films. I really need to see a lot of these films you mention some time. I haven't seen enough horror to make a list either.
 
TorontRayne said:
Since five people have talked shit and compared me to Malkavian,here is my reply.

"Talked shit?" Don't take it so personally that your taste is bad.

You obviously didn't watch the same Queen of the Damned that I did. This about sums it up for me:
Lestat said:
My teacher left me to my darkest lesson, that in the end, we are alone, and there is nothing but the cold, dark wasteland of eternity.

You don't care that other people don't agree with your choice of Butterfly Effect? Then why waste time to tell us this fact? Why defend your choice at all?

*Sigh* Well, it is unfortunate that you are beyond redemption. Too bad there are so many like you, who will settle for less and drag down the quality acceptable in a movie.
 
Nice edit (or perhaps deletion/reposting). Much better than your original message.

Hardly. It is simply obvious you will never improve your taste.

If you care to put it terms of 'redeemers,' this is a case where you are on your own. Self-redemption I suppose.
 
I guess I have the power to redeem myself then. Thank you Kotario. Without you I would be watching drivel my whole life. :wink:
 
Kotario said:
It is simply obvious you will never improve your taste.
You know, no matter how many times you sugarcoat it, in the end, it always tastes like shit, cause the core is, what it is. And this applies for each and everyone, unless you are only a day old.
 
TorontRayne said:
Since five people have talked shit and compared me to Malkavian,here is my reply.

Ah, well, don't take things too seriously.

And Kotario is The ReDeemer.

As for the Cube, Queen of the Damned, Butterfly Effect, and Alien vs. Predator being on my top ten; here is an explanation.

Queen of the Damned- Ok it didn't have any well known actors, so most people ditch it right off the bat. Then it didn't have Tom Cruise, so everyone was like " this movie is gonna suck ass" so they didn't watch it. Plus on top of that, the true Anne Rice fanboys were mad because Lestat had black hair instead of blonde. Ok now, disregard all of that bullshit.

Actually I was just looking through a book that catalogues the best horror and they like Queen of the Damned too.

But they had crappy taste in films so don't count on them.

When I went into the theaters I expected a decent vampire flick(probably not faithful to the books), but in my opinion it was one of the best vampire movies ever....2nd to "Interview with a Vampire". The soundtrack blew me out of my seat. I almost creamed my pants when Akasha toasted every vampire in the club.Lestat's acting really impressed me, and everything built up to that moment when Lestat was taken by Akasha. The story was pretty faithful to the book.... it just left a lot out.I stand by my decision. I love this fuckin movie.

Ok, a good vampire film might be Shadow of the Vampire. That was probably the last really good vampire film. I didn't have that many complaints about Interview with a Vampire as it stayed close enough to the book.

My problem with Anne Rice is that she's turned the Vampire archtype into a homoerotic goth soap opera. Lestat, who is an enjoyable villian in the first becomes the hero in the second book in the series. Sorry but Anne Rice, who got her start writing erotica, has done way to much to ruin the horror genre to get my respect.

A better film, Dracula 2000. The Hunger is also a pretty decent vampire film. Bram Stoker's Dracula- by Francis Ford Coppala is better. At least it had Anthony Hopkins- "She is the Devil's Concubine!"


Butterfly Effect- I guess this one just has a personal place in my heart, since I watched it with my wife before we got married. It was the first movie we both liked. Does anyone else have a movie like that? It really reminded me of how choosing certain paths in life can take you down a whole different course. I liked the different realities that the main character went through. I mean think about it. If you made a different decision in life, an important one,where would you be? That concept facinates me. Would this ever make anyone elses top ten list? No. Do I care? No. Next.

Then you should watch Sliding Doors which considers the same issue but when life takes a minor variation simply because a girl missed a subway train.

Ok, this is a matter of personal taste and you have a personal story. Romance, etc. That said, more people have given that film the thumbs up. Perhaps its worth reconsidering.

Cube Trilogy- I don't give a flying fuck what anyone says about this series; It friggin kicked ass. I loved the fact that the cube would always move ,and you never knew who would die by some crazy contraption. I stated earlier that Cube 3 appealed to me because it tied up some loose ends, and someone spouted out some smartass reply, but I stick by it.

Utterly unknown to me. I keep thinking Sphere- which could have been a better movie than it was.

AVP- Ok. I admit I chose to rashly on this one. I watched it a couple of days before I made the thread. Sue me. The movie does in fact suck dick.

My brother liked it too, but he also liked National Treasure and Kingdom of Heaven- so I wouldn't go by his tastes.

Reasons for disliking this film. Take two franchises- Predator (and I liked Predator 2 more than Predator 1) and Alien (which I think still had legs even at Aliens 4), and kill them both with a single movie. Sequels is a bad idea. But take two sequels and butcher both by placing them both on a frozen Antarctic island where all the people who once lived there strangely disappeared (- Antarctic monsters goes back to Lovecrafts' At the Mountains of Madness, but was perhaps best done in John Carpenter's The Thing), make it so that the Predators have this game with the Aliens on Earth (despite the fact that all the Aliens films deal with the idea of keeping the Aliens away from humanity as they would destroy humanity) add in Lance Henrikson (the Android that keeps coming back in the Alien films and then kill him off in the film.

Oh, badness.

A better film might have done this simply by moving the story line up a couple of hundred years, put some marines (as in Aliens) on a planet where you have Predators and Aliens facing off against each other. Actually that probably would have sucked too.

Movies based on video games is selling to the lowest denominator. Fun for beer and popcorn perhaps, but otherwise?

A good horror film?

As for some of the other choices people made:

Clockwork Orange- A pretty kick ass movie....I just didn't consider it true sci-fi.

One might also call Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- in which humans can selectively erase memories and struggle to stop that erasing from happening,
or Vanilla Sky/ Open your Eyes, where one has dreams while in deep hybernation- as not science fiction.

But that wouldn't make much sense.

Birds- I love Hitchcock. I love Birds. I just don't like the two together. Birds was alright, but Psycho is better. Vertigo is even better. That makes it better,better.

I wouldn't think of Vertigo as horror, but more as a mystery. In contrast-
Birds- Ecology turns the table on mankind- has been done way to many times. Think giant squids, killer bees, man eating sharks. For example Deep Blue Sea, is very much a horror film.

Psycho- one might call this a mystery as the story centers around the strange disappearance of a missing girl. But to do so would ignore the strange existential elements (water going the wrong way) that Hitchcock incorporates. One might think of this as a ghost story as well, in which a man in haunted or possessed by the ghost of his mother, but the ghost is psychological. But Psycho falls into the psychological horror category. Texas Chainsaw massacre could be a version of this. Silence of the Lambs as well. Is Silence of the Lambs horror or something else, and if something else, what? A mystery?

Back to the Future- I should have picked that one! I loved BTTF. Part three sucked though.

BTTF is totally sci-fi.
 
welsh said:
Utterly unknown to me. I keep thinking Sphere- which could have been a better movie than it was.

I just watched Cube the other night and was pleasantly surprised. They did a good job of keeping it interesting, and while it had a few flaws I'd definitely recommend it to any sci-fi or horror fan - though really it's more a suspense movie than one of those genres. I have the other two coming soon via netflix, though I'm kind of dreading watching them since even the fans say that they're awful movies.
 
I just watched the first Mad Max for the first time. I was very surprised... by how much it sucked.

Can anyone here explain Barton Fink to me?
 
The lack of complex sets is what makes Cube interesting.

Most of the action happens within the Cube, so apart from the colour, all rooms look pretty much identical. Yet they managed to make the storyline (or what you want to call it) somewhat interesting.

Other than that, the violent scenes are another reason to watch it.

Hypercube (Cube 2) was a let down ending-wise tho. Never seen Cube 3.
 
I thought Cube was stupid beyond belief. Something I would've come up with when I was about 8 years old and engrossed in my own imagination and liked to build thigns with cardboard boxes. Except the math part. I've always had a distaste for math.

First Mad Max is what it is. Neat vehicle scenes and some funny and/or memorable lines and such, but outside that it's nothing to write home about by any means. And sidekicks named Goose always die in movies. But it exists solely to set up the second movie and the character of Max.

Anyone else here think "Heavy Metal" was quite the ride?
 
In no particular order:

Blade Runner
Dawn of the Dead
Alien 1 & 2
Star Wars (original trilogy)
12 Monkeys
Matrix (first one)
Cube
A Clockwork Orange
Soylent Green
The Hannibal series (and I still can't decide whether The Silence of the Lambs or Red Dragon is the best)

Nothing which hasn't been mentioned before, uh? Guess I got a quite generic taste then. Meh.

EDIT: Forgot The Day After, which isn't science fiction or horror by strict definition.
 
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