20 years in prison for a youtubesinger

Cimmerian Nights said:
That he's only charged with breaking one law doesn't preclude him from having violated others.
Most definitely but I don't think or, rather, I certainly hope that most judges want to go there with child labor laws. Once you start prosecuting people for their youtube videos you open up a wonderfully nasty legal box that I'm sure most judges would rather not waste their time on.

Cimmerian Nights said:
My guess and personal feeling is that it's really not a shrewd use of public funds to prosecute anyway.
Agreed. As someone said earlier, it's probably a political stunt. Maybe the judge is hoping to get elected to a higher position or get his name in the spotlight for a federal apointment.

Walpknut said:
Like people suing Mcdonalds for their hot cofee.
To be fair, coffee should not be hot enough to cause third degree burns so she deserved to have her medical fees covered along with some extra for the lost time during treatment. The amount rewarded for the case initially was obscene, note that it was reduced, but that's what happens when you have a good enough lawyer.
 
Walpknut said:
Who hasn't seen South Park? it was funny 3 years ago. I think you didn't understand that I am basicaly just makign fun of this over sensitive shit, USA is incredibly over sensitive with laws that have a passing link to sex, or kids. Go to a video of a baby on youtube laughing, just laughing, or that video of the little girl telling a resume of Star Wars. now that you have seen them, you realize how innocent they are, no count the number of comments from people saying how much of a explotative douchebags the parents of the kids are just because they uploaded some funny moment with their children, this is just insane, is the kind of thign that you would expect from a comedy that si making fun of this kind of laws. Like people suing Mcdonalds for their hot cofee. Like when SOuth Park made that Mohamed Joke, and next thign you know people actually took offense from it and are threatening them, Is just so funny.
That really says more about the US society's high level of media-tion and web presence than anything else (in a globally recognized language no less). I seriously doubt that any other nation's ass end represents any better. Take a look around yourself next time you're on the bus or waiting in line at the post office and tell me different. Stupid and ugly know no national boundaries holmes. They're universal human traits.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
To be fair, coffee should not be hot enough to cause third degree burns so she deserved to have her medical fees covered along with some extra for the lost time during treatment. The amount rewarded for the case initially was obscene, note that it was reduced, but that's what happens when you have a good enough lawyer.

Coffee is hot, only a moron carries it in their lap while driving a car.

Morons, like everyone else are responsible for their own actions and the consequences of said actions.

Anyone who says different is part of the problem.
 
well I am sure YOU never did something wrong or stupid in your whole life. Need more stones for your glasshouse DB ?
 
Crni Vuk said:
well I am sure YOU never did something wrong or stupid in your whole life?

Sure, I've done plenty of really really stupid things in my life. I never tried to blame anybody else for the consequences of my actions however, or sue anybody for my own dumb behavior.

I don't buy into the victimhood blame game.
 
DammitBoy said:
Coffee is hot, only a moron carries it in their lap while driving a car.

Morons, like everyone else are responsible for their own actions and the consequences of said actions.
Any coffee that is hot enough to cause third degree burns is undrinkable. Any place serving coffee at such a temperature should be responsible for such. Also she wasn't carrying it in her lap, she had it there while they were stopped and was taking off the lid in order to add cream and sugar (which McDonalds now adds for you thanks to this case). The lady was in the hospital for 2 weeks after the spill and another 2 years for the skin grafting to be completed. That isn't a minor thing that she was entirely responsible for. I'm with you that there are too many frivolous law suits, it's just that this particular case isn't one of them despite being used as the prime example.

That said, the monetary reward was out of proportion for the injuries but that's because McDonalds refused to settle and the horse's share was in punitive damages.

Some specifics:
"During the case, Liebeck's attorneys discovered that McDonald's required franchises to serve coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C). At that temperature, the coffee would cause a third-degree burn in two to seven seconds."
"Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.[5] McDonald's quality control manager, Christopher Appleton, testified that this number of injuries was insufficient to cause the company to evaluate its practices. He argued that all foods hotter than 130 °F (54 °C) constituted a burn hazard, and that restaurants had more pressing dangers to warn about. The plaintiffs argued that Appleton conceded that McDonald's coffee would burn the mouth and throat if consumed when served."
The Wikipedia page.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
DammitBoy said:
Coffee is hot, only a moron carries it in their lap while driving a car.

Morons, like everyone else are responsible for their own actions and the consequences of said actions.

...she wasn't carrying it in her lap, she had it there while they were stopped and was taking off the lid in order to add cream and sugar (which McDonalds now adds for you thanks to this case).

"Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of her grandson's car when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in February 1992. Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served in a styrofoam cup at the drive-through window of a local McDonalds. After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. Liebeck placed the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled into her lap."
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:roll:
 
Well, apparently the guy got sentenced to 2 months in county jail, 2 years probation, 200 hours of community service, mandatory counseling, fines and costs and now can't go within 500 feet of anyone under 17.

What the fucking fuck. All this, still, for a damn well-edited Youtube video. :?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA[/youtube]
 
Crni Vuk said:
Hoxie said:
now can't go within 500 feet of anyone under 17[/youtube]
Totally ridiculous in my eyes.

Yeah, that's one of the things that bugged me out a bit more. They didn't bring him up on any of the "sex offender" or "child offender" charges, but with something retarded like that they might as well have.
 
But think of the children!!1!!!1!1!!!1! They will be effected by this harmless video that they might look back on one day and say "Hey that's me!"
 
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