AI Generated Images for people that cannot do art

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If you made that with real paint and brushes it belong in your art thread not the ai thread. Asshole. Do you ken now?

Oh wow she reincarnated already.

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TorontoReign said:
I don't really care too much where the tech will go.
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I think you will - at some point. All people will. Even those that don't like art. Because they do like the content creatives made. But with Ai art, many of them, the "masters" that we all enjoy, probably won't be around anymore.

If everyone's a master. No one is. Where will the next Giger, Bakshy or Syd Meat come from in the future? Nowhere. That's it.
 
Because at the end of the day the art in games is not the problem it is the mechanics. AI will be used by big studios like Disney and WB. It won't be the end all be all for everything though because human beans are still the best.
 
I suspect that we will see a lot of AI assisted illustration, where the commercial artist uses an AI for the basis of their works; retouching them as needed.
 
Gizmojunk said:
I suspect that we will see a lot of AI assisted illustration, where the commercial artist uses an AI for the basis of their works; retouching them as needed.
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I was about to post that too.

Artists will use AI and then add their own touch to the art, and make it higher quality than just the AI generated one.
Like Photoshop, many people use Photoshop these days, but professional digital artists can still make awesome art using it, while normies can't reach such levels.
 
This is interesting:
Under US copyright law, these [AI] images are technically not subject to copyright protection. Only "original works of authorship" are considered. "To qualify as a work of 'authorship' a work must be created by a human being," according to a US Copyright Office's report
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Yep. That's what keeps a lot of publishers right now in a state of "hmm this is not secure yet!". Anything Ai does is not copyrigted yet and pretty much everyone can use it for (almost) everything.

But I expect Google or someone else to throw billions at politicans soon enough to make changes in their favour.

It will be interesting to see how Ai will influence things once it's combined with 3D and 3D printing and all that.

I once joked about what your job would end up looking like if you could only generate 10 cents per job because some company makes it faster. Well. Looks like we will find out soon Giz :/.

TorontoReign said:
I think this will affect you more than me.
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My (part time) job is to work with troubled teenagers.

Ai is too smart for doing that. I am safe.

Risewild said:
I was about to post that too.

Artists will use AI and then add their own touch to the art, and make it higher quality than just the AI generated one.
Like Photoshop, many people use Photoshop these days, but professional digital artists can still make awesome art using it, while normies can't reach such levels.
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Nope. Watch the video I posted a page ago. There are already professionals getting results you don't have to change. At all. By just using the "correct" text.
 
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Crni Vuk said:
Nope. Watch the video I posted a page ago. There are already professionals getting results you don't have to change. At all. By just using the "correct" text.
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Yes, but even those can be made better with human work put into them. Nothing is perfect and everything can be perfected. Also, an artist can try and make the AI art into their own style, by tweaking and editing bits and pieces.

Even if AI gives awesome results, human creativity (especially from professionals) can always make it better. Yes, you will have a lot of people and companies not caring about that, since it will be cheaper to just write some words and press a button, but I have a feeling the ones made with the help of artists will always be better.

Maybe we will even see the birth of a new type of artist, who specializes in making AI generated art even better. Maybe even Art schools can teach classes about it and everything. If technology evolves, for better or worse, humans have to evolve with it.
 
Risewild said:
Yes, but even those can be made better with human work put into them.
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David Vyle Levy auf Instagram: „Rendered while I was working. I have absolutely nothing to do with these pixels aside from a very carefully crafted sentence. Time to…“

Sorry. Nope. Seriously. What do you really want to improve here from a quality standpoint? - I am not talking about style or preference here. This is pretty good from an art and creative point of view that does not require really a lot, if any, refinement. A lot of creatives would kill if they could deliver quality of that level. I know I would.

It would take a lot of artists years to reach this kind of skill and in most cases it does. - proably less if we talk about purely digital work with photobashing, textures and all. But still you're not picking up that kind of quality on the fly. I don't really see what this would require in finishing touches honestly. You could use this and print or release it just as it is no problem, in some art book, concept art page, promotion material, for games or illustration as book cover, you name it. This could be directly taken out of Star Wars, Dune or some other high profile Science Fiction movie and you wouldn't notice the difference if no one told you that it was generated by some bot.

And given the same words, everyone could just as easily create this kind of quality content in the corresponding image generators. And adjust it for their own needs. No human? Put a Robot in. Or Cat. Or what ever. No technical understanding, no skill knowledge in either colour palattes, visual and experience in the tools that are usually used to create this is needed.

But even if that was the case, where it still needs a "human touch", the speed at which this content can be thrown out? I think a lot of people understimate the effect of that and how many work-hours are actaully spend in creating this and how much more efficient the Ai actually makes that whole work process. Alone the the time you don't have to spend on reference material alone is staggering. It is easily the part that can cost you the most time and effort honestly. Once you're really skilled with the technical stuff, photoshop, painting and all, that can be relatively fast a few hours at most for really skilled and productive people. But it's really hard finding the right inspiration and reference material that makes your stuff "pop" so to speak. The increase in efficiency is staggering here. It's like you could do a months worth of work in one day.

You only need to type in the words. Which granted can be fiddly to figure out - but I tried it, it's not rocket science and there are a ton of good tipps out there it's far far easier to figure out than the technical abilities required to the digital tools you would use in photoshop or similar programms. And once that has been figured out and improved enough so the bot understands "you" better? That will be piss easy to do as well. It already works like that with music by the way. Go to ai-art-music websites type in "fantasy/sci-fi/what-ever soundtrack" and get your Ai generated tracks by creating it. (2) Created with AIVA - YouTube

I mean does this AI generated music sound too different from some of the generic crap in Skyrim or Inser-RPG-Game-256433?



Anyone who just right now started to look in to a career as creative? They are fucked.
 
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Crni Vuk said:
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You can improve the neck of that old guy (you can improve that a LOT), and the shaded shoulder, the face shades also don't match with the helmet, the little clothes we see could also be improved, we could add a nice background, get rid of the faded edges on that character and give those some details...

I see a lot to improve on that old guy image, and I am not even an artist. But if a real artist thinks there's no point in perfecting the image, and only complains about it, then who am I to talk, right? :whatever:
 
Risewild said:
You can improve the neck of that old guy (you can improve that a LOT), and the shaded shoulder, the face shades also don't match with the helmet, the little clothes we see could also be improved, we could add a nice background, get rid of the faded edges on that character and give those some details...

I see a lot to improve on that old guy image, and I am not even an artist. But if a real artist thinks there's no point in perfecting the image, and only complains about it, then who am I to talk, right? :whatever:
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*Sigh*

I think you're missunderstanding my intention. All the things you mentioned will be fixed at some point. The overall quality is there and if you wouldn't know it was Ai generated you couldn't see it. That's the whole point. Yes of course it can be polished a little here and there. But the image just as it is right now could be used for a lot the creative production process. - There are also a few other images on his instagram as well which look better. Don't let personal preference cloud your judgement.

You're missing the larger issue I am afraid. A lot of industry veterans are impressed over Ai and what it can already do now. Because you have to consider where the technology will be when it's properly trained. And it's simply frightening what it can already do now. What will the generation of Ai be after this one? Or even the one after that?
 
Since AI artwork is not eligible to be copyrighted, we will see the rise of AI assisted works to get around that; people will argue that only the touch-ups themselves are protected. Basically akin to a Photoshop layer above the AI background with just the artist's changes.

People might later equate AI art with acrylic pours; where the artistry is seen in the seeding of the event that achieves the outcome. This could succeed IMO.
 
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Gizmojunk said:
People might later equate AI art with
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It would be so easy for me to say " She does a nice blow job " but I won't.

Gizmojunk said:
where the artistry is seen in the seeding of the event that achieves the outcome.
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Yeah that statement is valid. Conceptual artists such as Yoko Ono would see actions leading to a conclusion as art.
So if you knock nails into a plank, it is art. If you pull out nails from a Viking Longship, then fill the holes with exploding candy it is high art.

If a person coats themselves with Liquitex and various hues of Golden acrylics, then bounces on a trampoline causing the medium to flow : A They have too much money to burn. 2 they have created art and they don't care about cost (why should they).

4: If a person with a speech impediment uses speech to text in an AI art programme and the outcome is chaotic, they have advanced their technique.

" Awound the wugged wocks, the wugged wascal wan "
 
In this case it is the evolution of artistic tools; AI being [quite!] a step up from an airbrush.

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Airbrushes don't make art, but they do automate aspects of it that would be truly difficult without them; so it is with software, as seen with the image above.
 
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