Aircraft carrier - USS Oriskany

I am taken aback at the ingenuity. :shock: I will burn my copy of F3 if you have to fix/blow up a nuclear reactor, or the last thing you have to do is go on the ship to some island to do the final mission (s). :roll: They say the game will be like elder scrolls- what wankers! :!: If they do what was done in f1,f2, ft- where they give us a bunch of weapons which majority of are useless then they have no respect for the fans that have been waiting for ten years for the game- on fanmadefallout i said- they need more futuristic weapons, ie: weapons that knock down/cause blindness/ unconsiousness/ stun/ concussion, etc. rather than just damage, I am tired of haveing 50 weapons from 1900-2000, and 50 melee weapons which are about as useful as a broken condom, or mines which you could use in a few instances. Or vehicals that you can only use in one mission and never again in future missions- or like the tank from ft where you could only drive it through about 1/5 of the map. The worst is missions where you kill/transport/fix- is that really how simple life is :?: What will be worse is if they make it like Grand T .A. Wont someone listen to reason?...
 
I concur... I'll bet also that the artist stumbled on it or was just looking for pictures of aircraft carrier and that one just fit well...
 
Vault 69er said:
They strip all the toxic materials out before sinking these ships.
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I wonder if they make a separate reef from the toxic materials?

Anyway, topic. Meh, concept art is just concept art. At one point it was used as a model for what would be in the game (or what might be in the game) but now it's just eye candy. Sometimes used to set the scene, sometimes (rather cynically), just to look nice.

It does look nice, but I refuse to draw any more spurious conclusions from it.
 
I think it is a bit ridiculous how large it is... as if its flight deck tower is as big as some 50s skyscrapers... i'd go for half or at least 1/3 is size... couldnt have been too hard for them to resize it...
 
Vault 69er said:
SuAside said:
nice catch!

also: artificial reef full of asbestos, how nice of the muricans. cancer for ze fishes!
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They strip all the toxic materials out before sinking these ships.
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That's where they get the materials to make public schools from... :D

I'm very surprised everyone is talking about the actual ship and not it's plausibility as a location. I find the idea positively great and I'm impressed at Bethesda for now.

Consider that when the bombs fell cities were destroyed, but I doubt any individual ships were hit. As such with no nation left to defend or attack the crew would be forced to dock their ship and over time it would develop as location given their probable inability to refuel and hence travel with it. Since they are huge and made to support a large population it essentially is a "floating city" and it looks like that description is even more true under the circumstances of that art. I like it a lot.

I would wonder how insulated such a community would be. Given the one entrance from that bridge to the skyscraper (though I bet a stealth NPC could swim up and enter secretly somewhere) you can't enter without being known and I bet the population being military descendants are probably very disciplined about their safety to not let random strangers in.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
Vault Dweller, a cool example of these stranded ships is in On The Beach by Nevil Shute where a nuclear submarine still remains in working order after the devastation of nuclear war (though I hope you can't use the aircraft carrier :-D).

I agree that its size is a little over the top but I'm hoping that simply shows the emphasis and importance it could hav ein the game. I think it (if done right) could be a real cool location. Starving people making this beacon of technology's yesteryear their home (okay... so it's a little like the Tanker in that idea... who cares).
 
SimpleMinded said:
Starving people making this beacon of technology's yesteryear their home (okay... so it's a little like the Tanker in that idea... who cares).
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Well I've always assumed there would be many places like the tanker all over the world. Stranded ships that make a cheap barrier against the outside world.
 
From what I can see, I think some of the largeness of the carrier comes from the possibility that the anchorage is dry. From what it looks like the seas have receded and left the river dry.

Take a look at the river bottom in the forefront of the bridge, maybe my eyes are failing but it looks quite dry to me.

EDIT: It also looks like the ship is being propped up. Near the front of the carrier seems to be some kind of bracing, which would give credence to the hypothesis that the river has dried out.

Now, what most folks see of a ship like a carrier is above water, yet most of the hull is below the waterline.

So given those two things may have occurred, that would account for the huge hull profile. I also think that maybe there was an airburst off the coast that created the tsunami which pushed the carrier further up the river and then over the years the lack of rain and the receding of the oceans in a Fallout post apoc, where it is all desert-y and dry. So that could plausibly explain how the carrier got so far out of the water.

A li'l FYI, even in the Bimini test detonations, most ships survived, unless they were almost directly under point zero. So our carrier could have possibly survived a detonation.




Cheers, Þórgrímr
 
hey thor,

the main problem for me isn't the draught or the stuck ship. it is however the size difference.

first you have the humongous size of the bridge linking the building to the ship and second if you look at the ship's tower, you can see seperate decks. if you compare that to the building next to it... leads you to think that the sailors on the ship might've been 4 meter tall titans.

i agree that bigger = better in the 50's retrofuture, but then you shouldve changed the design of the tower. atm, using real life measurements & the building next to it as a guide, it looks like it's off by a factor of 2 to 3.

but who cares, looks cool enough for concept art, doesnt it?
 
Maybe it's not the Oriskany from 1950, maybe it's a fucking huge aircraft carrier from 2150.
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
This is nothing new and original, it's like a combination of the San Francisco Chinese submarine and the Vagrants' tanker.
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Mind, original doesn't necessarily equate to good. (And anything wholly original would also not necessarily be consistent and canonical...)

It is perfectly reasonable that any large intact structure would have been utilized and populated, especially one with such defensive capacity. In this case, a heavily armoured and armed carrier could well serve as a fortress, rather than merely a communal dwelling.

If the submarine and tanker were used, it only makes it more plausible and likely that other such vessels were also used.

Everybody does need to keep in mind that these are only pieces of concept art, rather than final art designs...
 
Doubtful. They wouldn't be posting sketches and doodles on their official site.
 
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