Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass are two of the most wonderfully imaginative, richly written books in the history of the English language.

True story.
 
Right.
Because being attracted to children and jacked up on dope equals imagination.

Oh wait, hi Alec.
 
Dragula said:
Because being attracted to children and jacked up on dope equals imagination.

No. Being well-written does. Just because Lolita is about a pedophile does not stop it from being one of the greatest work in English literature, and Nabokov being a closet pedophile does not stop him from being one of the greatest reformers of the written English word of the 20th century.

Bitch.
 
Never said it does. But you seemed to put an = between them. After I said he was a paedophile you said he was a great writer, when there really is no correlation at all.
 
Dragula said:
After I said he was a paedophile you said he was a great writer, when there really is no correlation at all.

Indeed. And I said as much because who gives a fuck of the vices and boons of long-dead authors? As long as they wrote well.
 
in a pretty unrelated note, "Malice in Wonderland" was pretty weak, but extremely entertaining at times. was funny to see how they twisted the story to fit it into 'real life' with drugs and stuff.

(has nothing to do with Tim Burton)
 
Sicblades said:
Also; Tim Burton didn't like the original Alice.
The old Disney one? Have you watched it recently? It really isn't that good of a movie (my memory of it was tinted with rosey glasses), certainly not one of Disney's best.

Dragula said:
Alice in Wonderland was written by a paedophile. True story.
He had naked pictures of young girls but whether or not he was a pedophile is debated by his biographers. He wasn't exactly a normal man.

Dragula said:
I like American McGees Alice.
I like everything about it but the gameplay, which is entirely mediocre. That game just oozes with style and I'm interested to see if the movie ever gets made and how the sequel turns out (if it's ever made). It's my favorite adaptation of Alice in Wonderland, it morphed it in the perfect way to be great dark fantasy (a label which seems to be popular to misuse currently).

I've been debating whether or not I want to see it. I think that it's a great story for Burton to put his twist on but Depp as the Madd Hatter seemed like a miscasting to me from the start and I've heard that the lead actress was pretty mediocre. Ebert pointed out that it's yet another movie that devolves into action in the final act for no reason, and others have said that it really fails to wrap up well so that has also put me off a bit.
 
I found it to be a somewhat average film. Looks nice, but nothing special to see here.

Deep tended to shift into his Jack Sparrow role a couple of times, and he looks like Madonna in this film.
 
Unkillable Cat said:
Deep tended to shift into his Jack Sparrow role a couple of times, and he looks like Madonna in this film.

Yeah I see that. But when I first saw the posters for the movie I was so sure that it was actually Elijah Wood.
 
Brother None said:
I hate it when people just tag their favourite director for (x) project without thinking about style or directing habits.
I know you can't be talking about me, since Tim Burton isn't one of my favorite directors and I did think about his style and directing habits before suggesting he'd be a good fit for The Hobbit. Burton makes fantasy look fantastic. :)

It was mainly the Jabberwocky battle that made me think he could do it, BTW. The Jabberwocky lived up to its build-up within the movie, even though I wasn't expecting it to do so. I think Burton could pull off Mirkwood and the spiders, for example.

I agree that the Tim Burton/wacky character Depp/H.B. Carter triad is getting old, but Alice is one of the better selections from that drawer.

P.S. The director originally hired for Return of the Jedi was David Lynch.

P.P.S. Roman Polanski drugged and violently raped a 14-year-old girl. Just sayin'.
 
Well, I expected more. The picture is really nice. But it's a pure Disney movie. I even wondered why they allowed the episode of mouse putting out the Bandersnatch's eye. But when it was returned back, I understood.
Talking dogs and Hatter's dance are just ridiculous.

@OakTable, Big Fish is one of my favourites. I even read the book after and was even more impressed with Burton's work. He turned quite a mediocre story into great movie.
 
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