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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Courier, Nov 8, 2012.
That ridiculous upswelling shoulder pad is killing me.
You could almost say that it's bizarre.
By the way the new OP is really cool:
If anyone's wondering, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is a lot like Fist of the North Star but stranger and less heterosexual. Would recommend.
'80s animation was shit for the most part, at least until the late '80s. Late '50s to the late '80s are even known as the "Dark ages of animation", due to the really shitty animation that was being produced in that era.
Also animation today is far better than it was in the '80s/'90s. No contest.
Perhaps the animations are better today, but the content... isn't. But we're getting away from the subject. So there was no animations from the 80's you liked?
Waltz with Bashir, one of my favorite animated movies:
I can't believe I didn't mention this one allready.
Off the top of my head:
- Paranoia Agent
- Anything by Studio Ghibli
- Tatami Galaxy
- Puella Magi Madoka Magica
- Haibane Renmei
- The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
Only some late '80s stuff such as Akira.
That Flash/CGI animation annoys me so much.
It isn't flash But yes, similar.
You get over it - or you really should, it's not worth disliking a movie like this because of animation.
The animation itself is flawless (did you watch the clip?) the timing is amazing, and technical realism is as high as I've seen in animation.
You should give it a chance!
I actualy like the style of Waltz with Bashir a lot, I like to see different styles and techniques in movies. One of the reasons I like animation so much.
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Black Lagoon is fucking awesome thanks for the recommend.
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Ahhh, the innuendo of 90's cartoons, especially when scenes are taken out of context.
studio ghibli is closing rip
The designers said that Oocla's name came from the name of UCLA campus.
Great show; along with the original Johnny Quest, and I would include ~some~ (depending on the director) episodes of He-Man.
*Anyone that liked the Turtles would get a real kick out of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csn1j65e7oQ
(Especially if you read the original B&W comics.)
Don't get me wrong, but consider this: Studio Ghibli never closing, and turning into the soul-less ghost that is Walt Disney co.
Good things end. Lifeless vampires live for ever.
Anime can be hard to get into, especially if you're approaching it not expecting the cultural differences. Depending on the anime, there can be a lot that you just don't get - although the more you watch, the more you get those idioms thanks to past exposure.
The anime I'd recommend, for American viewers at least, that make it easier to get into and to see how brilliant the genre can be, include:
Eve no Jikan (Time of Eve) - a six-episode SF series released for free on the web. (Subtitled, but well worth the effort.) Includes Asimov's 3 laws of robotics, but in a story that makes better use of them than Asimov ever did.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (both seasons) - great characterization and story in a near-future world where most people are connected directly to the net; focuses on Section 9, a secret, special-forces anti-terrorism unit. Engaging and morally complex; explores existential themes and others that fans of thoughtful SF enjoy. Has great action but is more dialogue-driven and thought-provoking than fans of modern action movies necessarily would have patience for. (I.e., folks with Worf's Lament should skip to the next recommendation.)
Sword Art Online - Also has great characterization and story; it's SF but set mainly in a virtual reality that is a swords-based fantasy context (with minimal magic). Easy to like the characters and the art style. Has its fair share of fighting, too.
Miyazaki movies, especially Ponyo and Howl's Moving Castle for their powerful, character-driven stories. Ponyo not only is accessible for a wide audience but is especially good for folks with kids, as it has appeal for both groups, like Pixar films do. Disney recently sponsored fresh DVD / Blu-ray releases of most of the Miyazaki movies in the U.S.; definitely worth getting if you haven't got them already. (Miyazaki is where my list diverges from my main interest area, science fiction, but there's a lot of great anime from other genres out there, too, such as Death Note, Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and the film Tokyo Godfathers.)
I agree with all of these; haven't seen the others yet - though Puella Magi Madoka Magica looks good through first 2 episodes. Planetes especially for SF fans; the story's not as rich or in depth as something like Ghost in the Shell, but the science is great; people from JAXA, the Japanese space agency, served as consultants on that series, so the physics of space travel and other elements of life in orbit are all very realistic.
Cowboy Bebop, too, which marries space-based SF bounty-hunting (the "cowboy") with musical themes (the "bebop"); pretty cool, and also often funny, though arguably harder to get into than the first few series and films on my list.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Macross / Robotech - the series from the '80s that got me into anime in the first place.
Outside of anime, others already have mentioned many of the ones I like. I'd also mention Phineas and Ferb as a great series for both kids and adults; the art style takes a moment to get used to (the characters have odd-shaped heads), but the writing's phenomenal, and there are lots of SF allusions and other cultural references in the series. Fun stuff!
That was pretty interesting, at least the subject matter. I would have preferred a Palestinian perspective, maybe do half of the movie from Israeli perspective and half from Pale perspective. Kinda like Tora Tora Tora. Which of course isn't an animation.
It is an autobiographical movie tho, the protagonist you see in Waltz with Bashir, is indeed the author and director of the movie, and as I understand it, the animations are based on his drawings. So, it is very much his own, personal tale. I agree that a different view would be interesting, but in this case I understand perfectly why the angle is so one-sided, because it is a very personal tale to the author.
It is not the cultural differences that bothers me in anime, it is the cliches and fan services.