SuAside said:
yes, but he's refering to the 10mm game variant. that, they don't make.
What, are you referring to the 10mm SMG in Fallout 1/2? The one that bears far more resemblance to a MP5/10 than anything else? (Read somewhere that it was supposed to be a MP9, but that's nowhere near true.)
SuAside said:
the only way the MP7 is better is because it's smaller. that's all.
worse accuracy, worse penetration, smaller mag, etc.
Penetration statistics:
4.6 x 30 mm round:
* Penetration of a ballistic gelatin block at 50 m (20 % gelatin block 300 mm long) - 280 mm (11 in)
* Energy transfer through body armor at 50 m (1.6 mm titanium + 20 layers of Kevlar) - 220 J
* Energy transfer through body armor at 100 m (1.6 mm titanium + 20 layers of Kevlar) - 115 J
5.7 x 28 mm round:
* Penetration of a ballistic gelatin block at 50 m (20 % gelatin block 300 mm long) - 230 mm
* Energy transfer through body armor at 50 m (1.6 mm titanium + 20 layers of Kevlar) - 140 J
* Energy transfer through body armor at 100 m (1.6 mm titanium + 20 layers of Kevlar) - 65 J
4.6x30 has (somewhat) better penetration, though some will argue they're just about the same. (
Source 1/
Source 2)
Accuracy is a mixed bag, as I haven't been able to find any reports on the P90's MOA's, but apparently the MP7 has a 2in MOA at 45 meters. Undecided there. They both have an effective range of about 200m, so once again, say they're about the same.
Smaller magazine. MP7 comes with both 20 and 40 round magazines, the former being similar in size to a 15-round magazine employed in a Beretta 92FS, the latter being more like the extended 30-round magazine. P90 holds 50 rounds, on top of the weapon, which might mean it's a bit more difficult to reload (can't say for sure as I've never held or reloaded one). MP7 stores it in the grip, nice and easy to reload.
Lighter? Hell yeah! MP7 with 40-round magazine weighs less than an empty P90.
SuAside said:
and still a shitload of soldiers along the world are begging for bigger calibres than 5.56mm.
Some are, some aren't. Have you ever lugged around a weapon that fires 7.62 rounds, and the prerequisite 6 magazines of ammunition for it? It's
heavy. What a lot of soldiers want are bullets with more stopping power. Rather than invalidate all of the old weapon designs, why not just improve the effectiveness of the current 5.56 round?
SuAside said:
while i'm not sure about the USA, most pictures of soldiers in combat kit (on mission) carry a sidearm (mostly berettas, but sometimes a 1911 pops up).
If you ever see a 1911 pop up, it's part of a non-standard kit, since it was retired some 20-odd years ago, if memory serves correctly. Now the 92FS is standard, and the Mk23 is supposed to replace it (really, who in their right mind thought that 9mm was an acceptable service round?) but with the recent trend of cancelled projects, who the hell knows...
SuAside said:
L85 sucks, Tavor has small range (but it was designed for FIBUA anyway), G36 is decent.
Won't disagree that the original L85 is utterly flop-tastic, but the L85A2 has shown serious improvement. My knowledge on the TAR-21 is little, so I can't comment on that. However, the G36 being decent? When it's the stock rifle of the Bundeswehr, the Spanish Army, fairly close to being the stock rifle of the British Army, as well as a wide variety of CT and SWAT forces in the world, that makes it a little more than "decent".
I found it most effective to use a Shmidt(or what's it called?) Scout sniper rifle or the Arctic Warfare one...