AR's or FN FAL's?

I like mosin nagant, since it's a rifle that did it's huge part in the war. Also the Mosin has an intresting bayonet as an attachment. Instead of knives that Nazis used (I think they were called 42)
the Mosin's bayonet design was a very thin shtik.

It's pretty useful for warfare since it can go through life-vital organs with great ease without getting stuck in the ribcage or other bones(since it's so thin). Hold on, il get a picture.

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mosinbayo.jpg

Other soldiers had problems in trench warfare with bayonets though. After thrusting it in the enemy, the 42 knife could get stuck in some bone or the enemies equipment. This would cause the soldier to try and pull out the knife. While doing this he was a very easy target for the other enemy soldiers that were on the battlefield.

BTW, here's the knife for the German Kar98.
http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/ger8498a.jpg
 
Kar98 bayonet looks like the one for the SLR , And the Mosin bayonet is quite cool but I think only the Russians made that star type pattern that you linked. Oh and i have been told that the slot cut out of bayonets is to allow Air into the wound so it dose not close properly to allow for more blood loss and possible infection to set in, I have heard of some WW1 solders puting there bayonets into dead rat's and the latrines to make the bayonet more likely to kill after a time if they did not kill you outright.

I saw some ware that there is a huge stockpile of old soviet era arm's that the Russian government has located and is planing to sell so I would expect the price of Mosin-Nagants to drop even more. This may also affect the price of SDV's and SKS's.
 
SVD? That's a pretty valuable rifle if you ask me. I woudln't even want to pack so much heat.

BTW, about sidearms. I don't know tons of details about old/new assault rifles, about AK-47's or AK-74M's, but I defently bet that older pistols were the best. For an example.

TT-33 - http://world.guns.ru/handguns/tt33-pw.jpg

Colt M1911 - http://world.guns.ru/handguns/1911_1.jpg

APS - http://world.guns.ru/handguns/aps-1.jpg

PM - http://world.guns.ru/handguns/pm.jpg

They are all pretty deadly IMO. All made history throughout world too.
 
The Tokarev is a Russian version of the Colt 1911 in some respect's and the Makarov is a soviet version on the PPK in some respects, they both share lots of design but they are not direct copy's of each other I think this happened because the USSR saw things they liked in both gun's and decided to implement them in there own designs.

One hand gun I have always liked is the Luger and its ancestor the Borchardt it is said the Inverter of the Luger just updated its design to make it the more modern and recognasable LUGER.

The Borchardt :
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The Luger :
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Apparently Luger was a apprentice or something with Borchardt and he realised what potential the weapon had if it could be made more of a reasonable design so he played with the idea for a few years and ended up with the Luger and in many people's eye's he got the gun perfect.
 
Yeah, or you guys just have to talk about Fallout related stuff... or the topic at hand.

To try and get this thingamajig back on topic, I'd choose the AK-112 for sentimental reasons.

I know that it's been said before that the FN-FAL is better because it can be used for sniping, which conserves ammo, but I like storming into a room with my Assault Rifle with an enlarged clip, and then just bursting the stuffings out of everyone. I never really had an ammo problem in Fallout 2, so... yeah...
 
Neither did I, especially in Fallout 1. To actually choose from FN-FAL or AK-112, id chose the second variant because of principle. I never used FN-FAL since I first found it ugly.... and in Gecko too :)

However the FN-FAL is pretty good in some Tictacs missions. Like when you have to defend the ghoul warhead from the incoming mutants.
 
The FN FAL in Tactics is awesome. Easily the best Rifle. I just picked up Fallout 2 again after having put it on the sideline for so long and playing Tactics instead. AKM-112 with the Drum Mag is just awesome. The Night Scope for the FAL is meh.
 
SuAside thanks for clearing That you for me.

Oh and on fallout weapons what's your shotgun of choice? I liked the Combat shotgun in F1 and the Sawnoff in F2
 
Combat in F1 indeed and the Pancor in F2.

Sawnoff is pretty kickass though in combination with the Leather Jacket...
 
Sawnoff is pretty kickass though in combination with the Leather Jacket..
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Mad Max strikes back lol.

The jackhammer is a nice gun to hope it's kept in Fallout 3. What's your opinions on the 10mm handgun it looks cool but I never liked it to use, I normally used the 14mm pistol and the .223 pistol both looked sweet and kicked arse when it come to dealing out punishment. One weapon I would like to see is a Carbine or SMG in the 14mm round in F3 that would arse in any fight.
 
It's like the starting gun. I liked it till I found something better... which is practically everything else that shoots bullets... (talking about Fallout 1 now by the by)
 
When I was thinking about this I come to the thought that the Vaults where for a civilian population and not the military so giving them a small armoury with some low powered weapons like the 10mm for self defence makes sence(at least to me) also if for some reason the Vault dwellers discovered the enclaves experiment on the vault's they wouldn't like to see any real resistance, the only really powerful weapons in the vault where the ones on the oversear's chair in Fallout1.
 
I liked 10mm colt... untill I found out it was a revolver. Then I picked up the Desert Eagle(talking about Fallout 1).

It became my favorite gun. When fighting with bandits, raiders or Mutants, I always equipped my AK-112 in the first slot and the Deagle in the second one.

It's pretty cool to run in a room full of raiders, shoot out all of the Assault rifles ammo and then quickly switch to the deagle.

I tell you, it really does wonders when you shoot in the eyes. I even killed the Masters Leutenant with it eventually.. After getting slaughtered about 20 times in the most gruesome ways.
 
I liked the fallout 2 revolver but the art for it looked crap even when you upgraded it to the speed loader. One weapon I have found useless is the needler pistol the one Miron has the only good thing to do with it is shoot rat's or kid's in the eyes with if your playing a evil game.
 
I never really found any intrest for such weapons as the needler. In FO2 I sometimes used the M3A1(or what's it called?) The Grease gun in short, or the M60.

FO2 defently had a better asortiment of weapons than FO1, but some of those weapons were pretty useless.
 
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