Batman: Arkham City

Wastewander said:
Actually, Robin is not inherently a bad character.
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Doesn't matter if he is, no one wants to play as Robin. I mean what kind of messed kid would go "I'm Robin I'm Robin" when entering their imagination? Same for adults. Being Catwoman, awwwright, gimme something to look at, but Robin? Ugh.

Also Nightwing was a whinny prissy homo.
 
Brother None said:
Doesn't matter if he is, no one wants to play as Robin. I mean what kind of messed kid would go "I'm Robin I'm Robin" when entering their imagination?
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My two cousins were staying over the other night. The oldest one's seven, the youngest one's five.
We had just watched the movie Peter Pan, and they wanted to play Peter Pan after that.

I said "OK, if I can be captain Hook!". They agreed. I then asked the youngest one what he wanted to be. He wanted to be Peter Pan! I then asked the oldest one... he wanted to be Tinkerbell.

When he gets old enough to read english, I'll show him the way to The Order.
 
Brother None said:
Doesn't matter if he is, no one wants to play as Robin. I mean what kind of messed kid would go "I'm Robin I'm Robin" when entering their imagination? Same for adults. Being Catwoman, awwwright, gimme something to look at, but Robin? Ugh.
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Kids are one thing, but older than that, it's just about liking the character. Tim is pretty much liked by everyone who read his time as Robin and continue to read his time as the current Red Robin. Given how superficial people can be at times, it wouldn't surprise me if he got more fans on the basis that they liked how he plays in Arkham City. The only thing about this iteration that people might go "ugh" about is that buzz haircut, which is usually what Damian's haircut is like and it looks pretty gay on Tim because of the realistic design.

Also Nightwing was a whinny prissy homo.
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bahaha, dude has gotten more women in bed than Bruce, yet somehow that is kinda true
 
The combat in Arkham Asylum was badass. It really captured the Bat in his martial arts glory. I am glad they chose to expand the newest game into a less-claustrophobic environment. I am also glad that they stole the fighting mechanic from Arkham for the Captain America game because it is revolutionary.
 
TorontRayne said:
The combat in Arkham Asylum was badass. It really captured the Bat in his martial arts glory. I am glad they chose to expand the newest game into a less-claustrophobic environment. I am also glad that they stole the fighting mechanic from Arkham for the Captain America game because it is revolutionary.
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What exactly was "revolutionary" in this combat mechanism? All I remember was smashing the buttons to repeat the same combos over and over. Nothing I would particulary call "fun", let alone revolutionary...
 
I thought AA's combat was lots of fun. Very simple to control though, I'll give you that.
 
Game could've used additional difficulty levels but combat sure is fun. Controls are simple but stacking up combos as high as you can is still a fun challenge, and all of it is animated wonderfully. Likewise, completing stealth sections as fast as I could also made me feel like a very efficient badass. So even if Arkham City doesn't pose more chances to actually die than AA I'm certain I'll still have tons of fun with it. Although additional "Very Hard" difficulty mode would be very welcome this time.
 
I hope yo uare not forced to play as Catwoman, if there is oen character I find boring as all hell is her. I mean, she is the typical jewel Thief, but she dresses like a Furry..... SNORE!
 
Brother None said:
Yeah well I got it via zavvi coz Zavvi is always cheaper than every other option.
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Cool, I didn't know Zavvi. But I agree with Sea, even though I enjoyed the first game (and this one looks even better) I won't buy it at launch.
 
I pre-ordered it ages ago, I think for about 21 euro (zavvi had yet another discount, plus my own 10%). Well worth it. Arkham Asylum was easily one of the best games of the decade.

Wastewander said:
Kids are one thing, but older than that, it's just about liking the character.
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You mean older than that and with a lot of familiarity with comics. Which would be, what, a few thousand people?
 
I liked Arkham Asylum, and while everything seems to be better in Arkham City, I think I'll wait a while before purchasing it.

Brother None said:
You mean older than that and with a lot of familiarity with comics. Which would be, what, a few thousand people?
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Kinda. I admit, it's not that good of an idea, but I merely pointed out that Tim Drake Robin DLC as a pre-order bonus is not an unattractive package. I've even seen people express relief that it's Tim and not Damian. All in all, it seems that WB is aware of this because out of all places they could choose, they picked Best Buy for the pre-order bonus. Not really a place that I hear most people buy their games from.

I think you're underestimating how long it takes to get to know a character in comics. For example, if a person desires to get into comic books and wants to learn more about a certain character like Black Canary, it's a lot easier to become familiarized with her by reading her wikipedia and picking up a volume or two of Birds of Prey. Even without reading the wikipedia, it doesn't take very long.
 
Surf Solar said:
TorontRayne said:
The combat in Arkham Asylum was badass. It really captured the Bat in his martial arts glory. I am glad they chose to expand the newest game into a less-claustrophobic environment. I am also glad that they stole the fighting mechanic from Arkham for the Captain America game because it is revolutionary.
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What exactly was "revolutionary" in this combat mechanism? All I remember was smashing the buttons to repeat the same combos over and over. Nothing I would particulary call "fun", let alone revolutionary...
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If you didn't think Arkham was fun maybe you are playing the wrong genre. You are entitled to your opinion,but Arkham's fighting mechanics are significantly better than other games in it's genre.
The combat allowed you to anticipate your attackers, counter the moves, parry with your own, and fluidly move from person to person without fighting with the controls.

It was the first game that actually made you feel like Batman because you could fight 15 people without taking a single hit. You also don't have to use the Block button a thousand times because he can simply dodge and counter.

I for one loved the combat and I normally don't pick up action titles uless they are really good. The simplicity of it makes it easy to pick up and play,but hard to master.
 
Walpknut said:
I hope yo uare not forced to play as Catwoman, if there is oen character I find boring as all hell is her. I mean, she is the typical jewel Thief, but she dresses like a Furry..... SNORE!
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Someone's never read the comics (Long Halloween and Dark Victory). Don't go by Tim Burton's or that shitty movie from a few years ago, I don't consider them to be Catwowan, maybe some Alt Universe, but not canon.

She's actually a deep character and Batman and Bruce Wayne's love interest in a few stories. She has a really big part in the two Comics I mentioned earlier.
 
I have read the comics, I don't like Catwoman, it doesn't matter that they try to add druhma to her, she is still the most boring character in terms of concept, and there is more than one Catwoman, they always choose Selina Kyle because she serves the porpouse of filling the "shallow love itnerest" slot on the story. Maybe to drive the point further that Batman is a Furry? I hope playing as her is optional.
 
Hey guys, I just beat the game...

Overall, I think it is an incredibly well done game.... definitely a worthy installment after the first game...

I think the first game may have had a better atmosphere and tighter story progression but this game is still really good....

[spoiler:166abb2e25] That ending where the Joker dies was written very well and was beautifully done. Made me sad to be honest. The Clayface plot twist was great also. I also loved the parts where Protocol 10 and Protocol 11 were activated and Batman flying with Raz Al Ghul...

That's just the stuff that comes immediately to mind...[/spoiler:166abb2e25]



I actually loved everything in the game. It was all well done. The only criticism was that the optional side quests could have been developed more...
[spoiler:166abb2e25] Would have apprecited more direction in the Asrael and Hush quests but these are all optional so whatever. I thought most of the sidequests were great....my favorite was the Mad Hatter Quest[/spoiler:166abb2e25]

All my criticisms are basically nitpicks....the good stuff far outweighs any nitpicks in this game...
 
What a coincidence! I just beat it today as well.

[spoiler:ac35207746] It dissapoints me that even though they crammed as many Batman villians as they could, Joker is still the primary antagonist. Mark Hamill is great, but I'm getting sick of Joker. Is he really that great? He's just a lunatic dressed in a clown suit. An iconic lunatic in a clown suit, but still.

A great primary antagonist would be Two Face. This may seem a little biased since he's my favorite comic book character, but hear me out. Half of him is the man he once was. Harvey Dent. The other half is someone no better than any of the other major villians. The only way he can decide which side gets their way is through a coin flip. Plus, in Batman TAS, Bruce and Harvey were friends before the the incident. It shows how Bruce really wants to save him, but he still has to take him out like he would any other villian. [/spoiler:ac35207746]
 
Verd1234 said:
[spoiler:57ba5cd639] That ending where the Joker dies was written very well and was beautifully done. Made me sad to be honest. The Clayface plot twist was great also. I also loved the parts where Protocol 10 and Protocol 11 were activated and Batman flying with Raz Al Ghul...

That's just the stuff that comes immediately to mind...[/spoiler:57ba5cd639]
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Yeah, the story was absolutely brilliant. Atmosphere, presentation, acting-wise, it's as good as Batman has ever got. It helps that it's so closely based on tAS. Gameplay wise City doesn't add much to Asylum, and the combat is still pretty repetitive, but man what a game. GotY easily.

WelcomeTNR, you kinda missed the point...
[spoiler:57ba5cd639]Asylum and City are one story, the story of Joker and the Titan plot. It wouldn't make sense to switch primary antagonists in one continuous story. Also, City was Hamill's swan song, his Joker is dead now. That deserves a huge sending off, which it got, extremely well-done[/spoiler:57ba5cd639]
 
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