Bethesda Defends "3" in Fallout 3.

[Nodder]

Obviously it won't make them want to have a true Fallout 3, but at least the confirmation that the dev team will never make Van Buren would at last kill the hopeless dream and would help stem all of the vitriol flying around and funnel it towards a better end (such as modding FO 3 to make a better sequel, or something).

And also there would be a sense of betrayal and righteous indignation against Cain and co., which could be amusing.

 

[Per]

Who thinks Van Buren could ever be finished by Obsidian or any other studio?

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Ah you mean like that, fans no longer crying "Start making Van Buren, the real Fallout 3"
Sorry, I had misunderstood you.

Well I hope that some day in the future some fans with skills and talents come together and decide to recreate the Fallout universe with an engine of their own (not FIFE, but something like an engine that recreates everything of Fallout in 3D graphics), and makes a cool non official Fallout game that will feel like a sequel to the old Fallout fans.

Who thinks Van Buren could ever be finished by Obsidian or any other studio?

I think it is very unlikely Per, how happy that would make me.

 

[Nodder]

Who thinks Van Buren could ever be finished by Obsidian or any other studio?

Isn't there a hope that as long as the original developers are out there, the dream lives on and one day they will get together and make Troika mk. II and the Once and Future King will be returned to Camelot?

Well I hope that some day in the future some fans with skills and talents come together and decide to recreate the Fallout universe with an engine of their own (not FIFE, but something like an engine that recreates everything of Fallout in 3D graphics), and makes a cool non official Fallout game that will feel like a sequel to the old Fallout fans.

That I feel is a more reasonable aspiration.

Anyways, forget Fallout for a moment. Why can't someone just make another post-apocalyptic game with similar themes, style, and humor? The Dawn of War series exist even though Starcraft already does. There can be other humorous post-nuke games besides Fallout. Someone make a Gamma World isometric RPG already.

 

[Per]

Isn't there a hope that as long as the original developers are out there, the dream lives on and one day they will get together and make Troika mk. II and the Once and Future King will be returned to Camelot?

But even if they did, they'd make a new game and not finish Van Buren. Hence why I think J.E. Sawyer or someone popping up to say "Hello, we ain't gonna finish Van Buren for realz" isn't going to make any difference with anything.

Why can't someone just make another post-apocalyptic game with similar themes, style, and humor?

Age of Decadence maybe?

 

[Brother None]

Age of Decadence maybe?

Doesn't have similar style or humour. Themes, maybe. And gameplay core philosophy, sure. But who cares about gameplay in games?! Jeesh.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

I actually honestly hope for a remake of Wasteland, bit more modern of course but still a serious RPG that will serve as a launch title for a Wasteland series.

 

[Nodder]

Age of Decadence maybe?

Doesn't have similar style or humour. Themes, maybe. And gameplay core philosophy, sure. But who cares about gameplay in games?! Jeesh.

Not sure if post-apoc in a fictional magical version of Rome works. Sure it's cool, but it's not exactly the satire of '50s atomicpunk kitsch that Fallout is.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Well as I said before, we can only hope that Brian Fargo and his Inxile people will now make a Wasteland Remake that is closer to its original incarnation than The Bard's Tale was to the Bard's Tale games.

I will even taken an 80's take on a Post Nuclear world than no Post Nuclear RPG at all.

 

[TychoXI]

I'm hoping to hear from Tim Cain, Chris Avellone or Feargus Urquhart commentin' on FO3 anytime soon so you can all shut up with your whining and accusations towards "teh evil Bethe$da".

That's exactly the problem. People here tend to have their own opinion, and are certainly not going to change it, just because someone from the original team could like the game

Well you see, many people say they don't like this game that's their opinion and its fine, but many others here just say that this is not a "true" fallout. So, the only ones who could ever deliver us a "true" fallout are the original developers, who worked at Black isle at the time... then it follows that if they say FO3 is faithful enough, its because it is. Of course, they haven't said so, and perhaps never will.

I am going to regret asking you, but why do you keep saying "ye" in all of your posts? Did you suffer a head injury, and now think that you're a dwarf from middle earth?

I cert'nly donnae know what yer talkin' about lad. What is this "middle earth" ye talk about? I'm a half-orc, borne in vvafendell and raised is Cyrodil itself.

Who thinks Van Buren could ever be finished by Obsidian or any other studio?

I think it is very unlikely Per, how happy that would make me.

I would rather have them buy the IP from Bethesda and make FO4 with a nice 3D isometric view and real turn based combat...

 

[Nodder]

Should have called it Fallout DC, keep the Fallout title but keep it away from the other games... then you could make Fallout Texas & Fallout Seattle

Good idea. Call it Fallout: East Coast. Bill it as a rival to the original (West Coast) series.

 

[Black]

Age of Decadence maybe?

Mmmm, delicious vaporware, so good.

Anyway, isn't it lovely when developers have to "defend" their newest "sequel" in the franchise? I don't remember Blizzard doing that when talking about Diablo 3. Don't remember Obsidian defending Neverwinter 2, and how it is a sequel to NWN 1.

 

[Per]

Well you see, many people say they don't like this game that's their opinion and its fine, but many others here just say that this is not a "true" fallout. So, the only ones who could ever deliver us a "true" fallout are the original developers, who worked at Black isle at the time... then it follows that if they say FO3 is faithful enough, its because it is.

I thought it had been made clear that this is nonsense. Most people here judge the "trueness" of a Fallout sequel based on the actual design, lore and gameplay of the first two games, not on some random new quotes from former developers. Show me someone who'd flip-flop if such a quote appeared and I'll show you a nincompoop.

 

[Mane]

The thing of it is, I'd actually really like a confirmation that Todd and Pete even played Fallout 1 & 2 through to completion. I mean really played rather than having someone else give them a run down and bullet points of the highlights.

I just don't see anything but a cursory resemblance in terms of the art direction on occasion, and I'll give some props to the art direction much of the time and even some of the 'extra' items in the CE. SOme of the attention to detail in some of that stuff is ideal, and actually gave me some hope when I got my box, but the workings of the game itself are severly lacking.

The plot doesn't work even in the intro, and I have serious hopes for the intro int he vault at the very least.

Something just dies inside when you get to Flaming Swords and fire breathing ants though. Chinese in spy bunkers in Washington DC wearing Chinese Uniforms, with... Chinese Officer's Swords?

The roots of the world are just lost in translation. It's like they just read about FO rather than played it. There's no real grasp of the world and material.

Choice and Consequence, the Give and Take of it, and life in general, are completely lost. There is now ONLY the Give, none of the take, and consequences mean nothing - so so do your choices. It boils down to the same good or bad.