Bethesda hunting down Fallout 3 leak

Gentlemen said:
How is it ruined? I never did get to see the videos. Damn internet police.

They created Fallout 3 a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER(with some RPG elements)! Imagine playing a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER FALLOUT GAME...Every time I think of this 1/2 of my brain cells die violently.

As I see from the reviews of Fallout 3, they obviously didn't get the whole idea of Fallout, instead making it as they fit it. Oblivion is a good game, but much worse than Fallout/Fallout 2. It's like Metallica's album called St. Anger - it's a good album, but different than the expected, that's why they got a grammy for it, but the fans hated it.

It is really painful for me to imagine myself making habit of fighting radscorpions with a combat knife in Oblivion-fashioned way. Yes, it's really exciting to see how would it look like, but the true Fallout is turn based and will always be. I don't mind playing Fallout as FPS because it's different from the original; I mind it because it won't be as good as turn-based playing.

It's not only about Fallout being turn-based: as I just mentioned, they didn't get the whole idea: Fallout had some options that are obviously not worth picking - some perks like Snakeater, Heave Ho!, Stonewall, all those that give skills(Master Thief, Medic etc.)and much more; having your car and a trunk to store your stuff; they are too much. In Oblivion everything is much more balanced. In Fallout 3 I'm sure you'll never have to find a water chip, go to The Glow to become a member of the Brotherhood of Steel, do a quest to upgrade your Powered Armor to the best armor in the game, save and load loth of times to see all the dialog options, being able to have a super-mutant, dog, cybernetic dog, ghoul and ever a deathclaw in your party...

There are so much things that made Fallout 1-2 what Fallout 3 will never be. A game is fun even if you are cheating - try playing Fallout 2 with a character you already played, then use something to modify your character to make yourself able to kill even Frank Horrigan alone - you will see that even after that it won't get boring. I play Fallout at easy game difficulty, whimpy combat difficulty; I am able to kill everything I have to without(much)problems, I rarely(if ever)use a stimpak! However, it's still very interesting. This is something Bethesda will never realise.

In fact, Bethesda didn't ruined nothing, because if they didn't ever started making Fallout 3 it wouldn't have been better. Fallout Tactics and Fallout:PoS do not harm anyone. It is just very painful to see how it was possible for Fallout 3 to be as good as Fallout 1 or 2 or maybe even better. We all want to see the original intended storyline. I really doubt this will be something similar to Fallout. I love even the graphics of Fallout 1-2 - it makes me somehow satisfied. If Fallout 3 looked like that it would been fine(for me). But nooo, this way they won't get their bloody money! And here we are, FALLOUT FPS :jawdrop:
 
Madbringer said:
TwinkieGorilla said:
PaladinHeart said:
Also, I don't really think this was their final version. I could be wrong though. *shrugs* But it did not seem very polished to me.

Playable, and "just alright", but certainly not a grand work of art.

LOL! yeah, um...have you ever seen the final release of Oblivion?

Or Morrowind? Or Daggerfall?

Releasing games with a ton of bugs is their M.O.
Like Interplay, Black Isle and Trojka?
 
@ aronsearle

Tru dat.

Also, the more I see VATS, the more I think Bethesda had a truly innovative next-generation TURN BASED combat in their hands, and they managed to ruin it. VATS could have been a truly great and fun combat system, fully turn based and all.
 
But now VATS is paused based combat system :P

Still, IMO, VATS would work much better with ISO view than FPP :P
 
I agree with you on that. Ever play the Wizardry series? Great games, but it gets a bit dull waiting for the enemies to move toward you or attack you or whatever. Plus, there's that whole "horse with blinders" problem of FPP to begin with (IE, no peripheral vision.) And third- Bethsoft could've had a *wide* open market if they'd gone iso or 2/3 perspective.
 
Gentlemen said:
How is it ruined? I never did get to see the videos. Damn internet police.
This is just based off of vids, but:
Ignoring fundamental gameplay changes (since I know that several people simply don't care that it's an FPS), it's really just Oblivion with guns. The AI feels the same, the NPC responses feel the same, combat feels as chaotic and random as Oblivion, most of the quests seem the same kind etc etc etc
If you liked Oblivion, this is exactly what you're looking for, though.

Other negative things:
Everything is really, really, really, really close together. The empty wasteland feel is entirely gone. Deathclaw immediately followed by Radscorpions immediately jumped on by Raiders and that constantly. Felt like the onslaught of a Michael Bay movie.
VATS and the minigames seem like they'd get stale quick.
Voice acting is pretty bad.
The story is ridiculous.
 
OK, I finally heard something that I think is positive about Fallout 3...assuming it's true and not just the Mother of all bugs messing with the players.

Simply put: Vault 106. If it is working as intended (won't spoil it here) then it could possibly be the equivalent of the Dark Brotherhood quests for Fallout 3; a highly-praised part of a mediocre game.

But if it's a major bug...then at least it's one that improves the game.

...

The above shows just how badly Bethesda did their PR work. The true fans of their current product have become so jaded and suspicious of everything Fallout-related, they have a hard time accepting that something good may come out of this, no matter how small.
 
Blackened said:
Who the hell would create a game that will be played mostly by people who haven't played the previous games from the sequel!? Seriously, if this is really much like Oblivion with guns, I would prefer playing some mods for Fallout/Fallout 2 (like Restoration Project, MIB88's Megamod, Mutants Rising...).

George Lucas would. That dick.
 
Morbus said:
Also, the more I see VATS, the more I think Bethesda had a truly innovative next-generation TURN BASED combat in their hands, and they managed to ruin it. VATS could have been a truly great and fun combat system, fully turn based and all.
Care to elaborate? I haven't seen gameplay outside of the vault (just registered to a site so I could watch a live stream) so I haven't seen much of it myself. It's sounded broken and poorly thought out from day one as it completely subverts the RT gameplay. Personally I think that it could have been cool (or at least interesting) to set up your shots and have RT movement while the game makes the shots for you (only one way to do combat, implement unaimed [like how melee and grenades work] and aimed shots).
 
Unkillable Cat said:
Simply put: Vault 106. If it is working as intended (won't spoil it here) then it could possibly be the equivalent of the Dark Brotherhood quests for Fallout 3; a highly-praised part of a mediocre game.
Hmm... [spoiler:60399de4d8]Is that the vault with psychedelic drugs spewing out all the airvents? It was mentioned in a preview some time back...[/spoiler:60399de4d8]
Also, has anyone found the FO3 equivalent of that guy from Oblivion they used to poke fun at the Morrowind fanbase?
'Something-something The Liar'?
I think he'll be good for some lulz. :P
 
Diebold said:
I think it was this guy who leaked it:

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Hmmm... you know... I think you might be on to something.
 
aronsearle said:
The others didn't spend time creating chargeable downloadable content, whilst bug's went unpatched.
Touché!

PlanHex said:
Also, has anyone found the FO3 equivalent of that guy from Oblivion they used to poke fun at the Morrowind fanbase?
'Something-something The Liar'?
I think he'll be good for some lulz. :P
That would be Maiq the Liar (he was in Morrowind as well). Haven't heard if there is a similar person in Fallout 3, but I try to miss spoilers. Hmmm ... Harold, maybe? Can't make a Fallout game without Harold to crack me up.
 
Iozeph said:

It should read "Et quand il faut, nous serons presents". I don't really get the funny of that pic, tho'. Is that Herve Caen?

Unkillable Cat said:
something good may come out of this, no matter how small.

If only, the spectacular backfire of their policy of not showing more in-game footage. Epic lulz.
 
So much for controlling the flow of information, right?

They really should have been more open on it. Maybe it will give them something to consider going forward.

But I doubt it.
 
PlanHex said:
Also, has anyone found the FO3 equivalent of that guy from Oblivion they used to poke fun at the Morrowind fanbase?
'Something-something The Liar'?
I think he'll be good for some lulz. :P

I found Maiq the Liar to be nothing more than a slap in my face, and the faces of all the other MW fans who "dared" to try to suggest ways to make Oblivion a better game.

It pissed me off more than anything.
 
Pope Viper said:
So much for controlling the flow of information, right?

They really should have been more open on it. Maybe it will give them something to consider going forward.

But I doubt it.
Its kind of a damned if you do damned if you dont deal with content and info on games, give out too mutch and your accused of overhyping it, give out too little and your accused of overhyping it, give 2 guys interviews from 2 diferent game magazines that bascialy you say the same thing and you get yelled at for not giving them an exclusive, give out exclsive info to each and they both yell at you for giveing the other guy a beter scoop.
 
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