Bethesda registers Fallout trademark for a TV series

[Tagaziel]

Which is why I made the disclaimer "unless I'm maths-retarded."

Even considering the smaller window, it's still a small likelihood of them following one another.

 

[Sazabi]

Good, the new fans definitely deserve it.

Agreed.

Now that I think about it, Fallout 3 was the Great War. We're now living in the aftermath...

Ammo up, gentlemen - the Waste just became uglier.

 

[Dukeanumberone]

NMA should be changed to NBPA (No Bethesda Products Allowed)

You would think your assholes would be raw by now for constantly shitting on everything not IFO for 5 + years. (interplay FO)

There is more pessimism in a single NMA thread than in a fucking cancer ward.

/RANT
(no need to flame I've heard it 1,000 times on every thread about how bethesda rapded de fellout)

ON TOPIC: All that has been announced is an Idea or possibility and everyone assumes the worst, I am not expecting ( If it does go through) a production value equal to FALLING SKIES but more that of the BLADE series on SPIKE ( which I never have seen, only stills)
Would I watch it , hells yeah, why not, curmudgeon is a bad RL Perk to have.

 

[Yamu]

Oh, joy. I remember worrying just the other day about how long it had been since any brusque trolls had been by to bag on me for having standards and a capacity for pattern recognition. I was afraid NMA might be losing its touch. (For the record, all I've ever seen shit on here were jackasses and poorly-done games, no matter their provenance. Interplay's Fallout: BOS springs to mind).

On topic: I'm actually not as pessimistic as I could be about this: If Bethsoft were to greenlight a Fallout TV show, one can only assume that they'd largely farm out the work, which might mean it would actually end up watchable. (At the end of the day, they are all about making money, and they have to know that the kind of weak characters and narratives they favor in their flagship franchises wouldn't cut it in a non-interactive format).

Would it be Fallout as the old guard, or even the Xbox 360 crop, know it? Probably not. Would it be a disappointment? Very likely. Would I give it the benefit of the doubt and hope my inclinations were proven wrong? Sure. (Pretty much the same attitude I adopted in regard to F3.)

Anyway, as has been said, moot point. It's probably not going to happen anytime soon, if ever.

 

[valcik]

I'm sure it will turn out to be a great show for lulz, duders. This level of quality I guess:

 

[Kyuu]

NMA should be changed to NBPA (No Bethesda Products Allowed)

You would think your assholes would be raw by now for constantly shitting on everything not IFO for 5 + years. (interplay FO)

There is more pessimism in a single NMA thread than in a fucking cancer ward.

/RANT
(no need to flame I've heard it 1,000 times on every thread about how bethesda rapded de fellout)

Oh hey look, your ignorance is showing. You obviously weren't around when Van Buren was being shat all over, not to mention FOBOS and even Tactics to an extent. Oh, and I guess you must not have noticed all the absolute reverence with which Interplay is treated round these parts?

Further, there are plenty of games which get respect from the denizens of these boards besides the original Fallout games.

And, in any case, none of that really has any bearing on the fact that Bethesda's Fallout was absolute crap, even taken on its own merits.

 

[4too]

*Probabally* No Absolutes

*Probabally* No Absolutes

... All that has been announced is an Idea or possibility and everyone assumes the worst, ...

I would hedge that absolute with the potential of Ron Perlman renumerated for more grave, gravel-ly, basso profundo narration.


AND. some talented pup in their break through role as DOGMEAT!

How well production values and all the rest add up is (cough) 'most times' a crap shoot, more money allows more rolls.


4too

 

[Crni Vuk]

On topic: I'm actually not as pessimistic as I could be about this: If Bethsoft were to greenlight a Fallout TV show, one can only assume that they'd largely farm out the work, which might mean it would actually end up watchable. (At the end of the day, they are all about making money, and they have to know that the kind of weak characters and narratives they favor in their flagship franchises wouldn't cut it in a non-interactive format).

Would it be Fallout as the old guard, or even the Xbox 360 crop, know it? Probably not. Would it be a disappointment? Very likely. Would I give it the benefit of the doubt and hope my inclinations were proven wrong? Sure. (Pretty much the same attitude I adopted in regard to F3.)

Anyway, as has been said, moot point. It's probably not going to happen anytime soon, if ever.

I thought that Jericho was actually somewhat close to Fallout. If i remember right they did even mentioned "Fallout" fans at some point about the show.

Now A Fallout TV show with the same style and character interaction could be pretty good even.

All that Bethesda has to do is to outsource the project to someone who knows what he is doing. Somehow like with Fallout Vegas. Which is more or less in my eyes the true F3. Or at least as close as it can be to some F3 game.

/RANT
(no need to flame I've heard it 1,000 times on every thread about how bethesda rapded de fellout)

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then why the fuck have you wasted this valuable places of pixels with this post of yours when you already knew the answer?

ON TOPIC: All that has been announced is an Idea or possibility and everyone assumes the worst, I am not expecting ...

thing is, how many movie and TV shows do you know which are actually of high quality and based on games ...

I count maybe 1 or 2 ... from who knows how many. Bethesda or not. It is not THAT far-fetched to assume that it would be rather "bad" then "good", simply because of the statistic already ...

This is just my experience, but I dont know ALL TV shows so obviously I could be wrong here. But the really GOOD ones are actually not based on games but books. And they have usually a lot of money behind them. See game of thrones for example.

 

[Dukeanumberone]

Crni Vuk

then why the fuck have you wasted this valuable places of pixels with this post of yours when you already knew the answer?

Because its soo easy to flame bait certain people

thing is, how many movie and TV shows do you know which are actually of high quality and based on games ...

The thing is, I don't assume. I don't usually put my preconcieved notions or bias ahead of actual fact or experience with a given media. I leave that to others that do it so well.

Just like I didn't prematurely assume FO1 was the greatest thing since sliced bread or that F3 or FOBOS are completly devoid of FALLOUT value. I played all and enjoyed at my own level devoid of others opinions. Still haven't played tactics,FO2 or FNV so I have reserved my option of them until I do.



Kyuu

Oh hey look, your ignorance is showing. You obviously weren't around when Van Buren was being shat all over, not to mention FOBOS and even Tactics to an extent. Oh, and I guess you must not have noticed all the absolute reverence with which Interplay is treated round these parts?

Van Buren is not a game, its an unreleased demo. So not IFO.
FOBOS was made by the console side aka not black isle if I am correct, so also not IFO.
And Tactics was developed by Micro Forté . NOT BI/IFO
That leaves only 1 & 2 as IFO

Further, there are plenty of games which get respect from the denizens of these boards besides the original Fallout games.

And this has to do with FALLOUT how?

And, in any case, none of that really has any bearing on the fact that Bethesda's Fallout was absolute crap, even taken on its own merits.

your standard issue NMA opinion, nothing wrong with opinions

Yamu

I do what I can.

 

[Geech]

The thing is, I don't assume. I don't usually put my preconcieved notions or bias ahead of actual fact or experience

Bullshit. You never say something like, "I really like Quentin Tarantino's movies, so I'll probably like Django"? I straight up don't believe it. No one starts from zero in any of their valuations. It's completely valid to react to this with skepticism considering a) that video games typically have awful film adaptations and b) the Bethesda have no history with TV series. Even if you don't make those kind of judgments -- which I don't even believe -- it's still completely reasonable to do so.

your standard issue NMA opinion, nothing wrong with opinions

This sounds dangerously close to being a "preconceived notion". That aside, this board is made up of individuals holding a variety of different opinions. Some of us, myself included, actually enjoyed Fallout 3 despite recognizing that is a poor facsimile of Fallout's setting and gameplay. Others simply hated it. That was actually the point of Kyuu's post. If you had taken the time to understand what he was writing before you clicked the reply button, you might have realized that he was providing examples to prove that NMA is far more than some "Beth bad, Iplay good" echo chamber. The games he listed were all titles developed and/or published by Interplay that received significant criticism from members of the community for their take on the setting or system.

His point about other games getting respect was a direct response to your complaint that we shit on everything not Interplay Fallout. (Which again, really kind of sounds like a preconceived notion to me.) For that matter, the good reception that New Vegas received is also a good counter-example to that ill-conceived criticism. There are plenty of non-Interplay titles that have been well-received by some. Other people on the board may not always agree, but, again, this is because were are individuals with different opinions.

Listen, there's a reason standardized tests include reading comprehension. These are skills that you can actually develop and apply in the real world. The internet may seem like an exciting place where your opinion matters more than what anyone else says, but taking the time to read and understand other points is still highly beneficial. I hope you can take these lessons to heart and apply them in the future.

All of that aside, your Bethesda trolling is a little bit too obvious right out of the gate. A subtle build-up is always better.

 

[TorontoReign]

Admitting that you are flame baiting is against the rules ya know? Most video game based movies or shows suck. Fact. That's just the way it is. Whether Bethesda has anything to do with it or not. Duke if you actually knew anything about this community, you might see that many people here like Bethesda games. Guess you are too busy trolling to notice. Preconceived notions! Do you realize how ironic that is?

 

[Hassknecht]

That Halo mini series thingy they did to promote Halo 4 is pretty good, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_4:_Forward_Unto_Dawn
I could imagine something like that happening.
Although I really hope that Bethesda would outsource the production as they have no experience doing such a thing.

 

[Dukeanumberone]

Geech

You misquoted me by leaving out with a given media.

The thing is, I don't assume. I don't usually put my preconcieved notions or bias ahead of actual fact or experience with a given media

In this case I was referring to the FALLOUT IP.
But in a broader view I mean it to be Film, Books, and Games.

You never say something like, "I really like Quentin Tarantino's movies, so I'll probably like Django"?

No I have never said something to that effect, which actually sounds more like internal monologue to me, but tomato tomatto eh.
I have been excited for certain projects, but learned though disappointment early in life to reserve judgment on things until actual experience (in regards to my def of MEDIA).

This sounds dangerously close to being a "preconceived notion". That aside, this board is made up of individuals holding a variety of different opinions.

It is close, but actually has more to do with my admittedly short experience on these boards and a majority of what I've read others post.

Some of us, myself included, actually enjoyed Fallout 3 despite recognizing that is a poor facsimile of Fallout's setting and gameplay

I have never contradicted that statement, and agree with it.

His point about other games getting respect was a direct response to your complaint that we shit on everything not Interplay Fallout. (Which again, really kind of sounds like a preconceived notion to me.) For that matter, the good reception that New Vegas received is also a good counter-example to that ill-conceived criticism. There are plenty of non-Interplay titles that have been well-received by some. Other people on the board may not always agree, but, again, this is because were are individuals with different opinions.

I thought I covered that with the opening reply to Crni Vuk that the first two lines were FB, mostly reactionary to the response I got from another thread and taking it out here after reading a few more off topic posts that contributed nothing. I offer apologies for trolling, won't happen again. I still stand behind the pessimism comment as that is my opinion.

Listen, there's a reason standardized tests include reading comprehension. These are skills that you can actually develop and apply in the real world. The internet may seem like an exciting place where your opinion matters more than what anyone else says, but taking the time to read and understand other points is still highly beneficial. I hope you can take these lessons to heart and apply them in the future.

LULZ, misplaced approximation of my comprehension but worth copying to discredit others posts. Thanks on both accounts. I understand the "point" of your post though. Like I said it was trolling and reactionary, and the subsequent response was quasi-troll but you missed the point I was making, which is now moot.
Like I said , no more troll.


TorontRayne

Admitting that you are flame baiting is against the rules ya know?

I do now.

Most video game based movies or shows suck. Fact.

Opinion. There is nothing substantive or quantifiable about that statement. You can go lacking in mass appeal, awards , critical acclaim, groundbreaking etc etc , but flat out SUCK?
I have my tastes, you yours.

Duke if you actually knew anything about this community, you might see that many people here like Bethesda games.

All the evidence I have seen is that is the minority not majority , but that is besides the point, no group of people will ever agree 100% of the time. I just got fed up with the bs posts and lost my cool.

ex:

dONALD42 wrote:Good, the new fans definitely deserve it.

Agreed.

Now that I think about it, Fallout 3 was the Great War. We're now living in the aftermath...

Ammo up, gentlemen - the Waste just became uglier.

So i get all the troll attention, but this slips by unnoticed? Smells like a double standard.

Guess you are too busy trolling to notice

No I have noticed the few that can be civil. Yourself included.

Preconceived notions! Do you realize how ironic that is?

Yes, but also misquoted, (*per media).
The troll wasn't on my first post here, not the reason I joined.
Was to find other fans of the IP, and carry on discussions.

 

[Joelzania]

That Halo mini series thingy they did to promote Halo 4 is pretty good, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_4:_Forward_Unto_Dawn
I could imagine something like that happening.
Although I really hope that Bethesda would outsource the production as they have no experience doing such a thing.

I quite liked those documentary adverts for Halo 3, when they interviewed survivors of the covenant-human war. They felt fitting, yet tongue in cheek.

 

[TorontoReign]

Duke cmon man. Name Five good video game based movies. Is it a FACT like I said? You can't deny that most of them aren't any good. You're arguing semantics here. Here is a list I found. Let's narrow them down shall we?


Super Mario Bros - A travesty. Only good in a campy holy shit I can't believe it kind of way.
Double Dragon - Awful.
Street Fighter - So bad it's kinda good.
Mortal Kombat - Good at the time. Still decent i suppose.
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation - Threw in as many characters as they could. It sucked.
Wing Commander - See a trend here? Sucked.
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider - Only good for eye candy.
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Pointless tie-in that bombed at the box office.
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life - Didn't even watch it all. Sucked.
House of the Dead- One of the worst on the list. Uwe Boll needs to die.
Alone in the Dark - Same as above.
Doom - Only one scene in the movie is worth watching. You may know which one it is.
BloodRayne - Really bad. Yet again.
Silent Hill- One of the only decent movies on this list.
DOA: Dead or Alive - Titties are fun, but it sucked.
Postal - Never watched it. One of Uwe Bolls better movies which is like comparing shit to vomit.
Hitman - Not too bad. I liked it.
In the Name of the King - Another travesty by Boll.
Far Cry - Don't know.
Max Payne - Even Wahlberg couldn't save this shit pickle.
Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li - Really, really bad.
Tekken - Haven't watched it.
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time- Box office fail.
Resident Evil series - Part one and two were passable. The others all went downhill from there.


It is common knowledge that most video game movies are failures. They attempt to cash in on the popularity of good video games, often times they fail, by destroying what made the game appealing, or altering so many things the movie is unrecognizable from the game. Most of the movies on that list failed at the box office. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Most people feel the same way. Majority rules my friend. Now you can like shit movies and call them good, but it doesn't change that the movie is shit.

Most VG movies have no substance. Kill shit, awesome heroic action, very little plot, end. When I hear about a video game movie/TV show being made, I automatically think, "Here we go again.", because I've seen many come and go and fail. It gets pretty irritating honestly. Silent Hill surprised the hell out of me. I'm looking forward to the sequel. Horror is generally easier to pull off than action.


I can't even think of a video game based TV series...It would follow the same general principle if it was even made.

Now Duke if you want to carry on with Fallout discussion, quit hurling blanket statements at all NMA users. The users that get so pissed at the shit you say have been forced to endure countless F3 trolls over the years. It gets irritating as fuck. You come in here saying the same shit they say and expect different results. It just ain't gonna happen. Now most people can't help but NOT like F3. I don't particularly care for it, not because it isn't isometric, I didn't want that, it just wasn't a good RPG. Now would I like to see a good Fallout movie or TV series? Sure. But the odds are against it being any damn good.

Let's quit bickering and try to keep things civil. We are all Fallout fans. We all have different opinions. You like F3. Many of us don't. Let's live with that and move on. Personally I like New Vegas more. Many here don't. I don't go around telling them they should think otherwise. Just my two cents.

 

[Joelzania]

If they don't hire Uwe Boll then I'm sure everything will be fine.

On another note, do people like both the Walking Dead game and TV series? That's a good example of where a videogame based on other media does it right.

 

[Brother None]

The troll wasn't on my first post here, not the reason I joined.
Was to find other fans of the IP, and carry on discussions.

We are fans of the IP, and have been around for a long time. Most people here prefer a certain style of Fallout, and believe there was no good reason other than the commercial one to change the type of game Fallout is (pen-and-paper emulating, turnbased, C&C-heavy). Some of us still like Fallout 3 or (more commonly) New Vegas (lot of NV fans here).

If you like Fallout 3, you're still welcome here, we're a general Fallout fansite after all. If you're going to be intolerant of people not liking Fallout 3, then yeah, this isn't the place for you. Our leaning is towards Fallout 1/2, that's what we started as a fansite of. Not sure why that upsets you so much. Fallout 3 fans are still welcome, but every site has its leanings, and if you can't live with people not liking Fallout 3, then yeah, just not the place for you. And that's fine too. The core problem here seems to be you getting upset at other people's opinions. That's never a good basis to engage a community on unless you're just looking to get some kicks out of trolling people - and as mentioned many people have done so on NMA, so we're a bit wary of a certain type of poster. You don't seem like a bad guy, but honestly, if I were you, I wouldn't waste energy on getting upset over people's opinion. Stay, if you like Fallout 3, you're more than welcome to be here, give a counter-balance opinion, and I'll do my best to keep any of our local bullies off your back, heh. But again, if Bethesda bashing gets on your nerves, then there's better forums for you.

Also, use the "flag post" button if you see a troll. Sazabi doesn't really seem to be trolling or even insulting anyone directly, though, so not sure what the problem is.

On the other hand, at least you got this thread to move on from agent c and Tagaziel's slapfight, so that's a positive. Thanks! Haha

 

[Dukeanumberone]

TorontRayne

Duke cmon man. Name Five good video game based movies.

What would that prove other than we have different tastes in movies?

It is common knowledge that most video game movies are failures

Commercial failure rarely has to due with personal preference, I know it doesn't affect mine.

Majority rules my friend

In terms of my taste in Media, No it doesn't.

Now Duke if you want to carry on with Fallout discussion, quit hurling blanket statements at all NMA users.

I thought I was pretty clear in my last post about that but I will say it again, I apologize, wont happen again.

The users that get so pissed at the shit you say have been forced to endure countless F3 trolls over the years.

I get that, I really do. I have never come in here sincerely trying to sway peoples perception of the game because A) wont happen and B) I don't care if other people like the same things I do

You come in here saying the same shit they say and expect different results.

No I expected the response I got, it was even indicated in the troll post. But that is besides the fact, I'm done with that.

Let's quit bickering and try to keep things civil. We are all Fallout fans. We all have different opinions. You like F3. Many of us don't. Let's live with that and move on.

I agree man, but c'mon, you didn't even address the quote in my last reply showing a derogatory blanket statement about all "new fans". What does that say about the double standard, I get it, but don't agree its good for the community.

Brother None

If you like Fallout 3, you're still welcome here, we're a general Fallout fansite after all

Thanks

If you're going to be intolerant of people not liking Fallout 3, then yeah, this isn't the place for you

No I'm not, people have different tastes, I get that man. Its just as a "new fan" a lot of the shit the "old fans" post is pretty intolerant of people who do like the new games, and its not like its unexpected, but its tiresome when "EVERY" thread has it regardless of the topic. See the post directly prior to my first post in this topic for an example.

Our leaning is towards Fallout 1/2, that's what we started as a fansite of. Not sure why that upsets you so much.

It doesn't, different strokes for different folks, I enjoy them as well, for different reason that I enjoy the other games.

The core problem here seems to be you getting upset at other people's opinions

No, the core problem is that it seems like every topic has a bit of anti-new fan posts, and I honestly don't see the need. It derails the topic, like this whole ordeal, and doesn't contribute anything positive. You say new fans are welcome to stay as long as we mind our manners, thats cool, and reasonable, but when soo many post have anti-new fan rhetoric for no reason it sure doesn't feel that way. Believe me, as a new fan, we get it, in general this site doesn't like F3, the direction of the new games , bethesda. Frankly I don't care about those things as everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and really I don't give a shit who makes the game if I enjoy it. But thats over with, like I said, moving on.

 

[Brother None]

No, the core problem is that it seems like every topic has a bit of anti-new fan posts, and I honestly don't see the need. It derails the topic, like this whole ordeal, and doesn't contribute anything positive.

Aye. I'm more of a mind of "discuss topics, not people".

Like many communities, perhaps all, NMA seeks to easily dismiss other people's opinions. Their "old-fashioned hater" is our "casual consoletard". It's not constructive either way. I'm not sure that can be eradicated completely, but it's something to be wary and conscious of, for sure.

 

[TorontoReign]

Duke I was just throwing it out there. I know what you said. As for the movies, yeah commercial failure doesn't always mean the movie isn't very good. Often though, it does mean the movie isn't exceptional. Video game movies deserve much better than they have received thus far. You might like those movies, god I don't see how, but many people hate them with a passion. I find that most of them are meant for kiddies honestly. No offense. I found myself liking them more when I was a teenager, but now that I am an adult, they are pretty damn bad. Eh...no big deal anyway. Differing opinion I guess.