Bethesda Vs Black Isle/Obsidian

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Ziggy Stardust, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    There are Bethesda Game Studios and Bethesda Softworks. I will quote a different post I made here a while ago:
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  2. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Knight Rider oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Just like to make a distinction between the dev and the publisher. In this instance both suck but one is worried about making games the other the BIG PICTURE. I forgot about that though.
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  3. Supreme Shah Ismail

    Supreme Shah Ismail Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Sep 17, 2016
    I dont know whats the value or point of asking this here?

    Your going to get a very one sided answer and opinion based on the general views of most of the users here.

    Obsidian does stories/writing/choice very well and makes good games. They haven't always been successful in making fully polished products but those games have almost always been good. Tho I heard alpha protocol was pretty bad. Otherwise I do need to play PoE2 at some point this year. they have their audience and do what they do well.

    Bethesda casts a wider net but as a publisher I respect them for publishing games you would probably never see from any other publisher. Scummy at times? yes but then again its a publisher and a company not your friend. Generally I have higher views of them as a publisher than I do for others. Tho I know people here will scream in horror at that very idea and pin everything bethesda publishes and all triple games responsible for RUINING a series that isnt even ours anymore.

    As a game developer most of my experience with them is with fallout. Skyrim was fun the first time through but after a certain point I got really bored and never went back. Tried playing it again but I simply could never get into it again. So its fun enough I guess but not much of a very deep RPG. In terms of fallout this is where my opinions get controversial. I liked fallout 3, quite a bit actually. I like new vegas more for its better writing and choice chops which makes for a more engaging and re playable experience but I still enjoyed 3. Bethesda does exploration and dungeon crawling well. They do a seriously good job with environmental story telling, atmosphere and immersion (Yes I know that's been used a lot but the use of the pip boy/UI was really novel and clever). Its not amazing written but not BAD. What writing is god or bad is kinda subjective. Fallout 4 by and large is a more disappointing albiet still fun experience. It does imrpove on fallout 3 in some areas including writing. But it takes bad steps back in many ways too. At that point we really shouldn't be too cross over what bethesdas doing as they are no longer concerned about a vocal minority anymore. we dont matter and theyll do what ever makes money or pleases them.

    Saying that has already gained the ire of people rather unwilling to move on who will now proceed to write paragraphs on how my opinions on a video game are OBJECTIVELY WRONG and everyone needs to THINK JUST LIKE THE VOCAL MINORITY OR ELSE...something. You cant enjoy the thing I dont like!!!11!!! Even though I have the same background and appreciation for the series as the rest of them.

    Which brings me back to my original point. Why ask this here? what value do you gain? You know what they'll say so whats the point?
  4. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Space Alien

    Jul 24, 2018
    Thank you all for turning this simple thought into a thoughtful and insightful two page forum. I was positively surprised at how civil this was. To quote Aristotle, seldom does a man walk out of a forum with a changed mind.
  5. Fizzycswag

    Fizzycswag First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2018
    The Power of The Atom in a nutshell: "Let me waste resources on detonating a bomb that I can barely see!" Your consequence is your dad being DISAPPOINTED in you, the reasoning behind the detonation is retarded, and the whole thing just makes no sense
  6. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    Obsidian are good at making games. Bethesda are good at selling them.
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  7. Ziggy Stardust

    Ziggy Stardust Space Alien

    Jul 24, 2018
    I came in looking for a reasoned discussion and got two full pages of shitposts. This quest was to discuss morals and ethics, not to battle with one liners. It reminds me that we actually live in a world where people will scroll through forums for games they don’t like just to insult the game. If you aren’t going to contribute andything of value than don’t contribute anything at all.
  8. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    Is it just me or you suddenly changed your thought on the thread?
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  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    When you post on No Mutants Allowed, No Mutants Allowed doesn't change. The No Mutants Allowed changes you.
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  10. Fizzycswag

    Fizzycswag First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2018
    Most people are contributing
  11. Proletären

    Proletären Mildly Dipped

    Mar 15, 2012
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  12. Squadcar

    Squadcar I'm spinning

    Jun 1, 2018
    I have no idea why but the shitty ass quality in this one cracked me up.
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  13. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    *Christopher Walken voice* I think, this is funny, cuz, you know, Bethesda, delivers birdshit.
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