Comics and graphic novels

Yeah what the fuck, how could anyone ever think the Hulk was a DC comic?

DC is so bogged down in ridiculous continuity and constant reboots that I simply don't care about any of their major events. I read Batman, Detective Comics, and various other character based limited series and one shots and whatnot. I don't bother with Final Crisis or Countdown or 52 or any of the other ridiculous crossover events they've done as of late.
 
I'm inclined to agree. DC's got an incomparable pedigree, and their one-shots eat Marvel's alive, but the farthest I can be bothered to care about their ordinary series runs is reading up on the continuity via Wikipedia once in awhile so I'll know what my even geekier friends are talking about.

Then again, I guess you could say the same thing about Marvel, mostly. You let anything in popular culture run too long and it really can't help but become a soap-operatic farce. Thank God for the Ultimates universe, eh?
 
Yamu said:
Then again, I guess you could say the same thing about Marvel, mostly. You let anything in popular culture run too long and it really can't help but become a soap-operatic farce. Thank God for the Ultimates universe, eh?

I would disagree about Marvel. It seems relatively easy to get into if you just know a few basic facts. I can't even begin to figure out what the status of the DCU as a whole is - and even if I did, they'd change everything in six months anyway.

RonPerlman is right - the Ultimate universe is becoming pretty whack thanks to Jeph "Hey Guys My Son Died, Did You Hear?" Loeb. I don't read buy Ultimate titles, though. Ultimate Spider-Man is pretty good, but that's to be expected with Bendis at the helm.

A testament to Jeph "Payoff" Loeb's skills: You Gotta Be Shitting Me

Red Hulk: worst comic ever.
 
horst said:
since most of them are stupid anime. not even HENTAI, man!
Anime is cartoons. Comics are manga.

Also that is why I never bother with much more than a oneshot of either DC or marvel. Sooner or later all the fights turn into some massive speeches and you just wonder how they manage to talk that much and still be able to fight all the way through it. Usually it is not even inner monologue, just right out babble where they explain EVERYTHING. The reason I liked garth ennis version of punisher was that he did not talk all the time when he was fighting.

Sometimes the story might be good, but it is amazing how much more they talk at the end of such a comic than when it starts.
 
I'm not into superheroes like I once was, but I like the creators Marvel has. Ellis, Bendis, Millar, Straczynski, Ennis, Brubaker, I love all those guys. I got into this "Secret Invasion" deal and that's actually been pretty good.

The Straczynski/Oliver Coipel "Thor" relaunch is jaw-dropping.

A few more worth checking out:
Walking Dead
The Goon
The Twelve
Criminal
Kick-Ass
Young Liars

But I'm getting more artsy-fartsy in my old age. I'm more into fancy hardcovers and stuff. I just ordered "Drawing From Life" by Joe Kubert. Just solicited, so it won't come out for a couple months, but I cannot wait. What a master.
 
Secret Invasion has been really good. I feel like if Bendis had written Civil War it wouldn't have petered out and ended up so shitty. That being said, Millar did a decent job. The delays were harsh, but I think that was mostly because of Steve McNiven's workload and perfectionism.

The Straczynski/Oliver Coipel "Thor" relaunch is jaw-dropping.

Seconded. Great series.
 
I don't know if anyone mentioned him, but you must not neglect THE most awesome comic book character ever to be invented:

The heavy metal rockin', space motorcyclin', womanizin', heavy drinkin' bringer of genocide : LOBO!

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Malky said:
Oh, and fuck anyone who says Cyclops isn't a badass:
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Since when can Cyclops control his eyes without some kind of ruby quartz glasses? I'm not up-to-date with the X-Men stuff.

Congo Levi said:
The heavy metal rockin', space motorcyclin', womanizin', heavy drinkin' bringer of genocide : LOBO!

I read the whole (German) series until they started changing the artist in every fuckin' issue. I like the character and the whole over-the-top sex&violence thing but the drawings became uglier and uglier.
 
Buxbaum666 said:
Since when can Cyclops control his eyes without some kind of ruby quartz glasses? I'm not up-to-date with the X-Men stuff.

It's pretty recent. Emma Frost figured out that his lack of control over his optic blasts isn't due to brain damage but a self-imposed mental block due to trauma he suffered when he lost his family and developed his powers.
 
Malky said:
Buxbaum666 said:
Since when can Cyclops control his eyes without some kind of ruby quartz glasses? I'm not up-to-date with the X-Men stuff.

It's pretty recent. Emma Frost figured out that his lack of control over his optic blasts isn't due to brain damage but a self-imposed mental block due to trauma he suffered when he lost his family and developed his powers.
oh another tragic trauma for cyclops. THere is a surprise.
 
I believe it would technically be the same tragic trauma that touched things off in the first place, not "another one."
 
Yeah, that's not really introducing a new tragedy, it's just putting a new spin on the original.
 
Congo Levi said:
I don't know if anyone mentioned him, but you must not neglect THE most awesome comic book character ever to be invented:

The heavy metal rockin', space motorcyclin', womanizin', heavy drinkin' bringer of genocide : LOBO!

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Lobo was awesome!

Also, remember Garth's Ennis Hitman?

Pure awesome. Both Hitman and Lobo even had a crossover once. Tommy won out in a way to crazy and insane that it was PERFECT. No better way to defeat Lobo.
 
Yes, one of the best crossovers ever.

Also have to dig the editor's note at the beginning

"Clearly, this comic takes place before the majority of the cast was slaughtered"
 
Favorites
Superman: Red Son - what if infant/child Kal-El landed in the U.S.S.R.?
Superman: A Man for All Seasons - Clark arrives in Metropolis for the first time (this is a barrel-chested, raised on the farm Superman, art influenced by Norman Rockwell)
Astonishing X-Men
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, Hush, Long Halloween, etc.
Original TMNT graphic novels (there were 4 of them)
The Walking Dead - some of the most real characters
The Watchmen - superb plot
Wanted - but I most liked the parts they cut out from the movie, the whole supervillain underworld

Now reading: The Nightmarist, The Nightly News - will let you know if this thread is still around

Regarding film adaptations, Kick-Ass is moving forward with Nicholas Cage to star. The Preacher was recently turned down by HBO for a series (but really the creators weren't going to compromise it as much as HBO wanted). Hellboy III is very likely (to cap off the trilogy) according to local favorite Ron Perlman, and Guillermo also mentioned to him that he might have him somewhere in the Hobbit.
 
How about post-apocalyptic comics? There is Tim Truman's "Scout" which is an oldie but a goldie. Certain Grendel titles like "War Child". "The Walking Dead" is an awesome book about a zombie apocalypse. "Wasteland" from Oni Press is another good one. Wolverine's current story-arc called "Old Man Logan" is a post-apocalyptic tale.
 
iridium_ionizer said:
Now reading: The Nightmarist, The Nightly News - will let you know if this thread is still around
The Nightmarist is has a head trip story with teen drama thrown in the mix. The art is pretty good and in line with the head trip.

The Nightly News waxes philosophical on the ethics of the news industry. It's not that boring though, but I don't want to spoil the premise. It has a fair amount of action and an intriguing plot.

I would say that both are pretty good graphic novels, but they probably aren't universally adored - so if you get a chance flip through the first couple of pages. Judge by personal taste.
 
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