Deepwater Horizon/BP Oil Spill

what I dont understand is why they dont just try to ... dunno use the oil ?`I mean if they already have been drilling for it, could they not simply do what they always do with oil in the ocean ... like pumping it up and sending it with ships to harbors and some refinery ? Or are there some problems that make it impossible ?
 
Crni Vuk said:
what I dont understand is why they dont just try to ... dunno use the oil ?`I mean if they already have been drilling for it, could they not simply do what they always do with oil in the ocean ... like pumping it up and sending it with ships to harbors and some refinery ? Or are there some problems that make it impossible ?
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That's what they're doing. But it's too much and too stretched to get all or even most of it.
 
so they cant just tapp the source of the leak just as what they do at the english coast or german baltic sea with oil platforms to extract the Oil ?

As said I am not realy familiar with the location and it might be either to deep or other issues present I dont know. But when you say its to streched are you talking about the Oil under the surface in the ground ?
 
Crni Vuk said:
so they cant just tapp the source of the leak just as what they do at the english coast or german baltic sea with oil platforms to extract the Oil ?

As said I am not realy familiar with the location and it might be either to deep or other issues present I dont know. But when you say its to streched are you talking about the Oil under the surface in the ground ?
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You really haven't been following, have you? The oil well was tapped. That blew up, and now the oil is streaming out freely. They've tried on several occasions to use a sort of funnel to capture the oil - but it doesn't work.

Oil platforms aren't built overnight. A lot of preparation and time goes into it, and you can't just instantly plug one in on a blown well.
 
Also, unlike in parts of Europe and in Canada, a relief well does not have to be drilled at the same time that the primary well is drilled, so it's going to take a few months before that is completed and the hole can be sealed.
 
Sander said:
You really haven't been following, have you? The oil well was tapped. That blew up, and now the oil is streaming out freely. They've tried on several occasions to use a sort of funnel to capture the oil - but it doesn't work.

Oil platforms aren't built overnight. A lot of preparation and time goes into it, and you can't just instantly plug one in on a blown well.
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Do I have "professional Oil drill - ingenieer" painted somwhere on my forehead or what

What do you think why I am asking around here. :P
 
The horrible thing is that BP was drilling at a depth where - if something were to go wrong - there wasn't a ready solution on how to solve it.

I think we'll need to wait months before the real damage caused to fauna and flora becomes evident. The fishing business in that area is dead for years to come, though.

I dunno if Barack met with BP yet, but there should be strict laws concerning drilling at depths that are really hard to work at in the case that something goes awfully wrong.

Is BP paying for all of this or is the taxpayer coughing up the dough?
 
Crni Vuk said:
so they cant just tapp the source of the leak just as what they do at the english coast or german baltic sea with oil platforms to extract the Oil ?

As said I am not realy familiar with the location and it might be either to deep or other issues present I dont know. But when you say its to streched are you talking about the Oil under the surface in the ground ?
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The really funny thing about the oil spill coverage is when people who know nothing about the technical aspects of it come up from nowhere and ask why the obvious X solution haven't been applied.
Just sayin'...

If 40 millions of gallons of oil are still happily wandering in the ocean, it's because it's not THAT easy to get rid of it...

Also, the easiest way to get information on internet is usually not to ask on a random forum about a post-apocalyptic game. Google is your friend : if you want information, I'd suggest this article :
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/01/us/20100501-oil-spill-tracker.html
Give a look at "efforts to stop the leak".
 
alec said:
The horrible thing is that BP was drilling at a depth where - if something were to go wrong - there wasn't a ready solution on how to solve it.
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The solution is the same as the solution for spills at any other depth, drill a relief well. Everything else they tried was the normal bs that they always try and that never works. If US regulations were up to snuff then they would have to drill the relief well at the same time as they drill their primary well, thus creating an effective failsafe.

alec said:
Is BP paying for all of this or is the taxpayer coughing up the dough?
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BP said that they were going to pay for it and currently has been. Their liability is actually capped unless they are found to be criminally negligent (which their willingness to pay for everything suggests that they fear is likely).
 
Arr0nax said:
The really funny thing about the oil spill coverage is when people who know nothing about the technical aspects of it come up from nowhere and ask why the obvious X solution haven't been applied.
Just sayin'...
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No no no ... the REALLY funny thing is when people come up telling you they have been drilling down there actualy without any kind of plan when it fails or accidants happen ~ like now
 
I was wondering, does anyone know if this ecological disaster will have any effect outside the Mexican gulf? I mean what about the the Gulf current? Will it be possible that the longer this spill continues to spread that it would eventually spillover into open Atlantic or reach maybe as far as coasts of Europe? If that is a possibility, I mean...the consequences of this mistake just keep adding up dammit :?
 
It'll have economic effects if BP has to cough up that billion of dollars I've been hearing about. Then it'll just massacre the British pension fund, for instance.

I find it frightening that this is still going on. You'd think that the world's attention would be focused on solving this problem asap, but instead we just trust the guys who caused the leak to solve it as well. Are there any good examples from history where someone who causes a humongous environmental disaster also has the wits to solve it? Isn't it usually someone else who has to clean up the mess?

Somehow this all makes very little sense to me.
 
Panker_u_sakou_starom said:
I was wondering, does anyone know if this ecological disaster will have any effect outside the Mexican gulf? I mean what about the the Gulf current? Will it be possible that the longer this spill continues to spread that it would eventually spillover into open Atlantic or reach maybe as far as coasts of Europe? If that is a possibility, I mean...the consequences of this mistake just keep adding up dammit :?
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They've been worried about that to a small degree but they claim that thus far, an insignificant amount has made it into the Florida current which would take it up the eastern seaboard and over to Europe.

alec said:
I find it frightening that this is still going on. You'd think that the world's attention would be focused on solving this problem asap, but instead we just trust the guys who caused the leak to solve it as well. Are there any good examples from history where someone who causes a humongous environmental disaster also has the wits to solve it? Isn't it usually someone else who has to clean up the mess?
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The oil industry is the only group with the equipment to clean it up and it's not like the US government is doing nothing, they are overseeing everything. How effective that oversight is, who knows, but it's there. I don't know if BP has enlisted the help of other companies, if they haven't then they should, but every other company is trying to stay as unassociated with the spill as possible so that they can (and already have) claimed that only BP is incompetent enough to have this kind of problem.
 
This basically sums it up.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM[/youtube]

Hilarious video, and so true.
 
So what are your thoughts, guys, on what will happen next? Mine are not too optimistic. I actually didn't give a shit for some time, but now this stuff is getting more serious.
 
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alec said:
The horrible thing is that BP was drilling at a depth where - if something were to go wrong - there wasn't a ready solution on how to solve it.
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Well they would have drilled on land or in shallow waters (plenty of places to do so), but the envirowackos wouldnt give them permits, (is that irony, I can never tell)

Also a number of European clean up ships that had the capacity to suck up 200% of the spill where not allowed in US waters due to trade union laws (I think it was called the jones act).
 
aronsearle said:
Also a number of European clean up ships that had the capacity to suck up 200% of the spill where not allowed in US waters due to trade union laws (I think it was called the jones act).
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The use of dispersant (especially at the source) makes that a moot point as very large portion of the oil can't even be skimmed. Out of sight, out of mind is the main purpose of dispersant.
 
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