Deus Ex on hiatus

Having beaten Mankind Divided just last week, that news just makes me more pissed at Squeenix.

It's mostly their fault early reception was so bad with the 'Augment your Pre-Order' thing, and now we have a story that won't be finished and yet ended with several plot threads unresolved.

Sigh. Well at least I got the game brand new for only $20.
 
AgentBJ09 said:
Having beaten Mankind Divided just last week, that news just makes me more pissed at Squeenix.

It's mostly their fault early reception was so bad with the 'Augment your Pre-Order' thing, and now we have a story that won't be finished and yet ended with several plot threads unresolved.

Sigh. Well at least I got the game brand new for only $20.
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I felt Mankind Divided lacked a beginning and end, honestly.

If I was the God of Gaming, I'd add three more levels to complete it.

1. Escaping your hospital/prison in Alaska.
2. Detroit where you find out everything has gone to shit.
3. A final level in Rabiah where you track down one of the Illuminati members and deal with him, knowing you'll have to go off the grid forever.
 
One thing which always bugged me in Deus ex is...

*Guy has 100% fake legs and arms*

*Somehow suffers severe fall damage which a normal human could reasonably tank, and arms can cause lethal damage if hit*
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
One thing which always bugged me in Deus ex is...

*Guy has 100% fake legs and arms*

*Somehow suffers severe fall damage which a normal human could reasonably tank, and arms can cause lethal damage if hit*
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It's the metal legs jabbing up into his biological bits. :)
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
That makes me wonder, how much of Jenson's skeleton is normal?

I was under the impression they bascially replaced nearly all of him robocop style.
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I get the impression the game wanted to avoid that because Jensen is supposed to be potentially happy with his cybernetic state than completely horrified.

:)
 
CT Phipps said:
I get the impression the game wanted to avoid that because Jensen is supposed to be potentially happy with his cybernetic state than completely horrified.

:)
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"I never asked for this"

Oh what's that Jensen? You never wanted to punch through brick walls and tank bullets to the face unharmed?

Well, fuck you too Jensen, accept those fucking gifts with a smile.
 
I wouldn't want that. To have pieces of me stripped away and replaced with parts that will require constant maintenance. To have to worry that if the insurance or whatever ever goes away then I'd probably have to pay crippling sums for tune-ups and shit. To have to worry about malfunctioning parts that render that limb completely useless.

Deus Ex, even the first game, never touched deep upon how life really is for cyborgs.

Yes, he can break through walls and take bullets to the face without dying. You're jealous of that? I'm not. I don't go around wanting to be shot in the face or wanting to punch through walls. And I wouldn't want those kind of cybernetic replacements since the trade-off wouldn't be worth it.

And there's just something about the idea of my hand being lopped off and replaced with a metal hand that creeps me out. A part of me is gone and replaced with artificiality. Artificiality that I don't understand. Artificiality that could potentially be stolen. Hell, in the asian missions in Human Revolution the Harvesters go around hunting cyborgs down so they can steal them.

I wouldn't want any of that. Whoop di doo, I can punch through a wall. Fuck am I supposed to do with that in my day to day life? If I need to protect myself I'd rather just buy a gun.

This kinda shit is what goes through my mind thinking about what happened to Jensen. Now imagine Jensen himself who'd have to live with this every single day. Who'd have to wake up and look in the mirror and see those stupid fucking glasses mounted into his skull. Who'd get a phantom itch and then scratch his arm only to realize it isn't there anymore, it was chucked into a waste bin. It's gone. Part of what made him him is gone and is never coming back.

We have no idea what goes through Jensen's mind to make him say "I didn't ask for this".
I wouldn't ask for it either.
 
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Jensen touches on it in one of the better elements of Mankind Divided. For all the shade I throw on that game's main quest, the sidequests are all awesome. One of them has you track down a murder suspect and the game really wants you to treat the poor alcoholic PTSD suffering veteran like shit as it constantly tempts you to.

However, if you don't and emphathize, they can open up with a lot about the downsides of being a cyborg.

Not the least being you can smash through walls but not feel anything with your hands or feet.
 
CT Phipps said:
Jensen touches on it in one of the better elements of Mankind Divided. For all the shade I throw on that game's main quest, the sidequests are all awesome. One of them has you track down a murder suspect and the game really wants you to treat the poor alcoholic PTSD suffering veteran like shit as it constantly tempts you to.

However, if you don't and emphathize, they can open up with a lot about the downsides of being a cyborg.

Not the least being you can smash through walls but not feel anything with your hands or feet.
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The ex-Belltower guy right? I liked how they handled him.
 
Razörfish also shit all over FNV because he's insanely biased against Obsidian and he thinks Invisible Wars is a great sequel to Deus Ex. I haven't watch the video yet but while I enjoy a lot of his other content when it comes to certain games his is lodged real firm up his ass.

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Watched it. It feels like I can't really say anything about his arguments until I've finished MKD myself.
 
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CT Phipps said:
Here's a good defense of Mankind Divided.
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Petty butthurt and calling names. Garbage, not defense. It's pretty much confirmed that it's the publisher who fucked up, not Eidos, but not for this kid.
 
Been playing these games again. I have completed Deus Ex and Deus Ex: Invisible War. Working on Human Revolution now. Invisible War is not as bad I remembered it being when it originally came out. Narratively it pays off on things that were setup at the end of the first game. The big issue with it is IW is one of the worst cases of consolitus I have ever seen. Everything about this game is smaller in scale or laughably dumbed down for a Xbox port that nobody asked for. Did Warren Spector honestly think that console players were so stupid they couldn't handle managing multiple ammo types?
 
0wing said:
Petty butthurt and calling names. Garbage, not defense. It's pretty much confirmed that it's the publisher who fucked up, not Eidos, but not for this kid.
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Pfft. I went through more insults than he ever did when I joined this site. PASSION is important!
 
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joevonzombie said:
Did Warren Spector honestly think that console players were so stupid they couldn't handle managing multiple ammo types?
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Console games are dumbed down in nearly every way to be honest.

Very rare to see a non-dumb console game, I think Bioshock 1-2 were quite impressive with ammo types, plasmids, etc, good AI.

For games which are on PC and Console, you can REALLY see the difference when you play the PC port, and compare it to a PC exclusive.

Lower enemy counts.

Shittier combat because all they did was remove the aim-assist consoles have.

Shittier performance.

Shittier graphics.

Etc.
 
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