DLC - What is it good for?

Well, why not instead of not buying DLC, don't buy games that are heavily reliant on DLC. :|

I'm not really defending/supporting DLC, I could care less about it, but its here and people will buy it.
 
Rufus Luccarelli said:
Well, why not instead of not buying DLC, don't buy games that are heavily reliant on DLC. :|

I'm not really defending/supporting DLC, I could care less about it, but its here and people will buy it.
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It's actually 'I couldn't care less'. If you could care less, it means you still care about it to some extent. Unless that's what you meant, of course.

Anyway, everybody has free will. We can't force others to do or not do something. I suppose you could argue that subliminal programming subverts free will, but that's another story.
 
Ixyroth said:
It's actually 'I couldn't care less'. If you could care less, it means you still care about it to some extent. Unless that's what you meant, of course.
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I meant couldn't, but I guess I do care somewhat if I'm posting about it. :lol:
 
$10 is cheap. Come on, if you think that's too expensive, you need to get a job. And as far as content goes, Bethesda's Fallout 3 DLC is outstanding, the only other comparison I can think of in terms of added content is Rockstar's GTA4 DLC.
 
TamaNeko said:
$10 is cheap. Come on, if you think that's too expensive, you need to get a job.
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I have a job and make fairly decent money. I still wouldn't spend $10 for any of Beth's DLC. I wouldn't pay $10 for the original game either.

It doesn't matter if $10 is a lot of money. It only matters if what you're getting is worth $10 to you. For that same $10 I could get a nice meal. Get a case of Asahi (with some change left over). Get 3 or 4 gallons of gas. Get my car washed. Go see a movie. Rent a couple Blu-rays. All of the above sound more appealing than buying any of Beth's DLC.
 
I enjoy the options that DLC provide. Saying that they should be free is naive, as they are not patches to in game content. It isn't like BS is asking to pay for bug fixes. And Point Lookout is awesome.
 
Herr Mike said:
It doesn't seem to me that typical $30 expansion packs have more content that any three of the FO3 DLC packs combined. Probably less.
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Bullshit. Broodwar, Hellfire, Lord of Destruction, Frozen Throne, any Civ 2 expansion, Xtreme Legends, and most other expansion packs give way more content for money spent (especially when compared to the main game).

Herr Mike said:
I could see a bad trend developing however. I wouldn't like if the main offerings got skimpier and skimpier in favor of having more DLC. That would suck.
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That is exactly what DLC has done, given consumers less product for more money. DLC is bad for consumers and great for publishers/developers. Are there exceptions? Yes, I'm sure there are but Fallout 3 is not one of them.

Gauss Pistol said:
I enjoy the options that DLC provide. Saying that they should be free is naive, as they are not patches to in game content. It isn't like BS is asking to pay for bug fixes. And Point Lookout is awesome.
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No one is saying that DLC should be free, just that it should be appropriately priced and that some parts of it which fix flaws in the original game should be included in patches. Each Fallout 3 DLC should cost no more than $5 and I come to that number by looking at the amount of content provided, the length of the development cycle, the amount of advertising, the amount of staff working on the project, the product doesn't have to deal with writing or modifying an engine, no copies have to be physically manufactured (no DVDs), and the assumption significantly less volume will be sold than Fallout 3. Looking at all of that, I see 1/10 of the cost of Fallout 3 for each DLC being extremely profitable for Bethesda, at 1/5 the cost (what they're charging) I see a massive ripoff.

Logic says that Fallout 3 DLCs are massively higher priced than Fallout 3.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
No one is saying that DLC should be free, just that it should be appropriately priced and that some parts of it which fix flaws in the original game should be included in patches...
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Its funny that I think Bethesda was "bussy" working on some DLC right after Fallout 3 (or even short before the) release instead of working first on a patch for Fallout 3 and THEN on DLCs. Kinda tells a lot what is more important to Bethesda if you ask me ...
 
What is DLC other than mods made by the developers themselves? And considering that this DLC milking is largely used by Bioware and Bethesda, both ironically supply the end-user with their toolsets, demanding money for such mods seems utter bullshit.

Adding new weapons or armor? Haven't checked in a while but I'm pretty sure a samurai armor or a weapon like Auto-Axe could very well be made and found amidst the countless pink power armors. Adding extra hours? It had been done countless times with games that are not even bundled with a toolset.

An expansion pack is focused and massive. It adds much more to the game than just a few more hours or new cool enemies and even cooler weapons to fry them with. For my lack of knowledge and interest on recent games closest example to come to my mind would be Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne. A DLC would not be able to come near it. Well maybe some could but for the sake of trend bashing I'm gonna pretend I'm blind to it.
 
Ausdoerrt said:
Although 'I could care less' is slangy, but widely used and acceptable, to mean the same as "couldn't care less".
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The fact that it's widely used doesn't make it not idiotic. I'm no opponent of American English, but "could care less" and "Irregardless" need to die.
 
You mean "irregardless"?

Oh, word censor. I changed it a little.
 
Per said:
You mean "{"Irregardless"? Seems I've been a little "irradiated".}"?

Oh, word censor. I changed it a little.
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Awesome, didn't know we had a word filter for that. Edited my post to circumvent it.

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Hang on, I might've actually been the one to put that filter into effect, since I was getting annoyed at DB's use of the word. Odd that I forgot.
 
Per said:
Did they give it away for free?
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Seriously that is the thing that bugs me. Why should I pay for a mod that could easily be done by community for free? But when branded with the developer's name it suddenly defaults to professional. And talking of professional I've played far more professional mods than the vanilla games these days. Sadly enough as it's becoming more of a trend to supply toolsets with the game itself quality of the mods overall are suffering slightly too. One would expect the vanilla game to make up for it, unfortunately they fail at even larger levels. So all you have with your money is a toolset coupled with, at best a mediocre game. And only support the developers throw at you is an easier chance to clean their mess with the toolset. While all they do is throw together amateurish stuff (again in their toolsets), slap a DLC label to it and ship it online. Considering the lack of creativity in their works I find it really hard to believe that these guys were able to find a job in the first place. What's even harder to believe is that people actually drool over those games.
 
Found this picture, which doesn't say anything new, but is nevertheless amusing:
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Brother None said:
Ausdoerrt said:
Although 'I could care less' is slangy, but widely used and acceptable, to mean the same as "couldn't care less".
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The fact that it's widely used doesn't make it not idiotic. I'm no opponent of American English, but "could care less" and "Irregardless" need to die.
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Well, there's lots of things idiotic that eventually may become the norm if it's used enough - that's how language is. And while "irregardless" is plain incorrect, "could care less" could even be interpreted as "I may care, but not enough anyway" if you will. Well, it's not like I use either that often, so I could care less :P
 
I think that Valve has shown the perfect way to handle DLC with its treatment of TF2.

They sold us the main game at a good price (Orange Box) and then have given us countless "updates" with new items, maps, modes, etc, all for free.

Hooray for Valve.
 
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