Do you think we have control of our lives?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Sn1p3r187, Mar 30, 2016.

  1. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

    Apr 7, 2014
    Tied into a discussion me and my friend had about realism and interaction in RPGs and Open world action adventure games. When I think about it. I recently started "The inheritance" mod for New Vegas and the old man spoke of this. And it made me think if we have any form of control of our lives. I feel we can get something started but we can't control what's going to happen next, afterward, or let alone how anything will play out in the end. It's a question I've always wondered about really. Do you think we have control over our lives?
  2. Jinx

    Jinx Killer of Mole People

    Nov 13, 2014
    I'd say yes, we have. But that's a simple answer that really doesn't cut it. A grown, fully mentally developed person could be argued to have a lot more 'control' than, say, an infant. An infant can't even control its own body properly, not to mention 'life' outside of itself. It all comes down to cause and effect - we do something that will result in something else. However, another million-billion people are doing the same thing - something that leads to something else. So yeah, bearing this in mind, I'd say that I, as a grown, fully developed person, have control of my life, or at least the choices I make. The result of said choices aren't fully in my grasp, as it is influenced by other people's choices.
    Besides, if I think that other peoples choices keeps impacting the control I percieve to have over my own life in a negative manner, I can just go into crazy-wood-hermit mode and eat grubs the rest of my life.
  3. Earth

    Earth Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 7, 2013
    I dunno, probably.
  4. Knight In Leather Armor

    Knight In Leather Armor HATE CHILDREN

    Feb 6, 2016
    I'd say yes to an extent.
  5. Ragemage

    Ragemage Wept for Zion

    Feb 20, 2016
    God gave us free will and free reign over what we do with our time on Earth. I'd say absolutely we control our own fate.
  6. Ninja

    Ninja Who?

    Dec 15, 2015
    "There are times when you gotta agree to something, even when you think it's wrong."

    "That's a load of horse piss."


    "You can make all the excuses you want. But you're the one who decided how to live your life."
  7. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    I don't really think so to be honest. How you react to a situation greatly depends on how you were born, and how you were brought up. For example: maybe someone happened to be born in to a family of devout Christians, and therefore they in later life may base their moral decisions on what the bible says, whereas someone else might be raised as an Atheist and instead have a more flexible moral approach, then when new issues arise, these people are going to have very different outlooks.

    Not to mention how much chance is involved. Think of someone who changed your life majorly, and imagine if you happened to be somewhere else when you would have met them, and how much that would change your future, or if one night out you saw something that changed your outlook on life forever, when really your original intention was to stay at home and watch TV.

    I think that the vast majority of how your life will turn out is based on chance.
  8. The Vault Dweller

    The Vault Dweller always looking for water.

    Aug 24, 2004
    I want to believe that life is entirely based on personal decisions, but that would lead to everyone being totally good and never bad which given reality isn't the case. The problem is at least half of life is everyone else's decisions that should only apply to them, but apply to others and forcing them to act the same.
  9. Brahmin Noodles

    Brahmin Noodles Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 26, 2016
    I think Fantastic sums it up well: "I know exactly what I'm doing. I just don't know what effect it will have." In all seriousness though, yeah, I think we definitely have a decent amount of influence over our lives. I believe the remaining chunk comes out to chance. Where we start out in life isn't our choice, but where we go with it and what we do with it is up to our choices. On the same coin though, like I said before, a bit of it can be all up to chance. Like, for example, being born with some kind of terminal disease. You don't have control over things like that. In addition, as previous posters have stated, even your choices affecting your life doesn't necessarily mean you have "control" over it. TBH, I'm not 100% sure where I stand on this. I'm not sure if we truly have "control" over our lives. I think the best I can say with certainty is we have influence over our lives.
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  10. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
  11. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Free will is an illusion. Physics above the quantum level is deterministic, so every neuron firing is a result of every earlier neuron firing and a result of all sorts of things right back to the initial state of the universe, more or less.
  12. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    I don't know about the rest of you but I certainly do.
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  13. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    At least you think you do ;)
  14. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    Of course we have free will. We have no choice in the matter.
  15. dopezilla

    dopezilla God of Blood and War

    Nov 6, 2015
    I'd like to think we don't have any control over our own lives because that would excuse me from taking any responsibility for the shitty state it is in right now. I feel like that's just an excuse, though.

    Not big on quantum physics, so just watching some of the related videos you posted.

    This guy so far hasn't excused me from any of my failings.

    Gonna check me out some more videos on the matter that also talk about quantum physics.
  16. ZigzagPX4

    ZigzagPX4 The Swiftness of the Ranger

    Nov 22, 2015
    Free will sucks because consequences, but it most certainly does exists. I know there's this hanging belief that we're all living under the illusion of free will, but awareness of the theoretical illusion alone is already a demonstration of free will.

    Have I confused you yet? I know I've already confused myself.
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  17. GlutinousRice

    GlutinousRice Ne travaillez jamais

    Nov 7, 2015
    What if awarness of the theoretical illusion of free will is a simple consequence of human evolution and natural selection, and by consequence determinism?
  18. ZigzagPX4

    ZigzagPX4 The Swiftness of the Ranger

    Nov 22, 2015
    Dammit man, I was trying to stay un-confused.
  19. Presper

    Presper First time out of the vault

    Jun 8, 2015
    “Everywhere man blames nature and fate yet his fate is mostly but the echo of his character and passion, his mistakes and his weaknesses.” - Democritus
  20. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    I'm always in control, even when I'm not.